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06-25-2003, 06:08 PM
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SageTV Client dropouts and hangs..
Its a little late so i can't go into the kind of depth i'd like to..
I've asked about this before, with respect to possibilities of configuring the size of the buffers used between the SageTV server and client.. Lots of people replied and said they had had NO problems streaming their tv... possibly even multiple clients off one server fine... I appreciate that people are having NO problems with this but I am unfortunately suffering and its just getting to the point now where I would really appreciate some options at improving this... Basically i (ok its just happened now as i type) ... I get times when the video and audio just stops.... sometimes it stutters and resumes... sometimes it resumes and the video is out of sync for a few seconds.. and the killer is sometimes it just stops... the timer on the video continues to increment.. the one just now the time has gone right to the end... Once it has hung in this manner, nothing works... selecting other shows/recordings/channels... does nothing... you have to close SageTV client and start it again... fast forward if neccessary to where you were only to find the same problem happening 2 minutes later... I have a netgear router, with 100meg switch... i am not saying it couldn't be a problem with the router and some latency issues but other programs are fine... I can usually play the file fine through media player over the network neighbourhood... I can copy a file across much quicker than it is playing.. I clearly have the bandwidth there.. its just occasionally it must just delay it somehow... and SageTV client just doesn't seem to handle it and it gets stuck... as i said before.. configuring the buffers would be excellent, as i'd happily allocate 10s - 100s of meg of memory and/or harddisk to the streaming video... I only seem to notice these problems when i am using the internet.. it certainly seems to aggrevate it. with peer 2 peer and its piles of connections being a real killer.. which is what makes me wonder if these multiple connections cause the router to delay sage packets?!?? I appreciate that its not helping but i still would like to hope the underlying network could easily fill up modest buffers worth in time even with my full bandwidth of ADSL being used, which is after all just a fraction of 100meg lan... ANyways... I love the product... I have this problem, I know not a lot of others seem to suffer it yet but i would really like to see some progress/options for trying to fight against it... if the buffering is strong already, i'll happily perform debugging to see if there is a bug causing this problem with buffer underrun... Cheers 
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06-25-2003, 06:52 PM
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Hi,
I have a similar problem. 1. Does it ever hang on a recorded program? [Mine does not] 2. Does it hang with 99% processor utilization? [mine does] If it fits these two above, try the following [it works for me as a work around]. With live TV, let the program start and back it up for a few seconds / less than a minute. Please let me know how similar your experience is to mine... -Stan
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06-26-2003, 02:23 AM
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when i say hung tho i mean the video stream... Sage is still responsive... I've had actual sage hanging bugs with 100% CPU usage but this isn't happening at the moment...
just the video is getting screwed.. and yes it happens with recordings... two different problems being described here i think 
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06-26-2003, 11:15 AM
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You can change the buffer sizes at the following registry location:
HKLM\Software\Frey Technologies\Common\DShowFilters\MpegDeMux NumBuffers * BufferSize = amount of buffering used for MPEG2 playback The build that's coming out today has fixes that should address the 100%CPU and hanging; or it at least has attempts to address it.
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Jeffrey Kardatzke Founder of SageTV
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06-26-2003, 01:53 PM
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Thanks Narflex.. so if i increase the buffer size in that registry key, the client will actively try to download and fill that buffer and so it'll be more stable for any hiccups in my router traffic!??!
The buffer size is in megabytes or something!? how can i roughly equate it to time buffered?! I guess work out my video bitrate... anyways thanks... are there any ceilings on this buffer size... going silly will mean bigger delays till the buffer has filled till playback begins??? Thanks
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06-26-2003, 06:09 PM
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Ta-dah. It's out now.
And it has fixes for 100% CPU problems, client hangs, and library import failures, as well as loads of other little features that have been requested. 
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Jeffrey Kardatzke Founder of SageTV
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07-08-2003, 12:20 AM
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Depends on what kind of WiFi you are talking about.
I think the 802.11b at 11 Mbps is not fast enough (although I could be wrong). But, the a and g versions at 54 and 20+ are probably better suited. I'm pretty sure there are some users out there operating with this. Maybe they can chime in.
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John Meeks
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07-08-2003, 05:01 PM
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11meg wifi is not enough apparently.. i've not tried it.. maybe at the lower bitrates you'd be ok but i use 3.5gig... wifi varies a lot too and my setup here isn't all that optimum.. should really relocate the router to get better signal strength around the house
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