Remote acting funny with new v6.1 on MVP

[garyellis]

This is strange....I upgraded to v6.1...I unplugged my MVP's before upgrading and then plugged them back in after upgrading and set them to the current STV...

When I go to the screen to "watch now" or "browse videos"...I press "select" and nothing happens. I press down and then up to get back to the same command and now press "select" and it works. It happened with my wife first and I couldn't believe it. So, I tried and sure enough, that's what happened. I then went to the other MVP in the house and the same thing happened..It does this only at the first menu item on a list. I press right or down and then come back to the original first menu item and press "select" and it works.. This does not happen on my main computer system and did not happen with any other version of Sage..I just upgraded to V6.1


I told you its strange...

Gary Ellis

[mdnttoker]

Originally Posted by garyellis

This is strange....I upgraded to v6.1...I unplugged my MVP's before upgrading and then plugged them back in after upgrading and set them to the current STV...

When I go to the screen to "watch now" or "browse videos"...I press "select" and nothing happens. I press down and then up to get back to the same command and now press "select" and it works. It happened with my wife first and I couldn't believe it. So, I tried and sure enough, that's what happened. I then went to the other MVP in the house and the same thing happened..It does this only at the first menu item on a list. I press right or down and then come back to the original first menu item and press "select" and it works.. This does not happen on my main computer system and did not happen with any other version of Sage..I just upgraded to V6.1


I told you its strange...

Gary Ellis

I've noticed this too...but I've had this problem in prior betas.

Suppose I should pull out the ol' bug report...

[hchucky]

I've got the same issue. I've just been living with it as I don't use the extender much. Just have to move focus once then hit enter again.

HC

[garyellis]

Exactly my problem....

I wonder if it could be in the Nielm plugin for customizable pages...since it only seems to do it for me once I am off the first page...

Gary Ellis

[ben_95sl1]

I seem to have the exact same problem with my mvp as well....started with 6.1.8, noticed it after a few days of use.

And now today, my hauppauge remote that works with my pvr150 card on my server system is responding very very slowly, not the same symptoms, but broken nonetheless. Don't know if the two are related, but I can't get it to work properly anymore.

I probably should go back to 6.0 to see if sage is the culprit for my server.

[festus]

As a recent switcher from GB-PVR, I thought this was just a Sage issue. Any new ideas?

[Opus4]

Originally Posted by festus

As a recent switcher from GB-PVR, I thought this was just a Sage issue. Any new ideas?

With that name & avatar, I just can't help 'hearing' that post in a particular accent...

Anyway... I'm curious about whether this is happening while using the Hauppauge remote or while using a learning remote that has been taught the Hauppauge remote's buttons.

- Andy

[laurenglenn]

Another thing would happen is that I'd issue a few commands, like Info or Rewind multiple times, and the UI wouldn't change. It would eventually, but then I left SageTV open and minimized instead of sitting in the system tray and it seems to happen less often.

Wasn't there an option way back that would set a delay as to when the video would start playing on the MVP?

Lauren

[hchucky]

I am using a remote that I trained with the Hauppauge remote. I will try just the Hauppauge remote tonight to see if the same issues exist.

HC

[wrems]

I had this same issue with 6.1. http://forums.sagetv.com/forums/showthread.php?t=25310

THe only thing that fixed it for me was to go back to 6.0.

[festus]

Sure enough, it looks like it was a problem with the learning remote. I have not tried to reprogram it yet. The standard MVP remote works perfectly with every press.

[garyellis]

great....another clue to this puzzle...

I originally started this thread and have had the problem ongoing. We've just learned to live with it.

Having said that, I just took batteries and put them in my old Hauppauge remote and amazing,...the select button works on all menus. I went back to my learning remote and same old problem - select works on some menus and not on others...

Thus, I deduct that the hauppauge remote must be sending a code that all menus understand and the learning remote must be sending one that only some menus understand.. But, then I guess I'm lost as to why pressing any other key on the learning remote makes the select key now send a signal that the MVP understands as "select"

The mystery continues, but now I have something new to work on..

Comments?

Gary Ellis

[Opus4]

I thought a learning remote might be in use... the Hauppauge remote uses the RC5 IR protocol, which has a toggle bit that gets flipped each time the same key is pressed repeatedly. Pressing any other key resets the toggle state. Not all learning remotes can learn toggle codes properly.

The v6.2 beta release notes mention a new rc5_disable property that you could try using in the properties file for your MVP, found in the 'clients' subdirectory of where sagetv.exe is located. I haven't tried it, but you could set it to true while the MVP is off & then see how it works.

- Andy

[wrems]

I’m curious then, why when I changed back to 6.0 did my problems with the learning remote clear up? I changed nothing on the remote.

[Opus4]

Originally Posted by wrems

I’m curious then, why when I changed back to 6.0 did my problems with the learning remote clear up? I changed nothing on the remote.

Are you using a Hauppauge remote and/or receiver? Is this with the MVP, or on a PC? If you aren't using an MVP, then your situation is a bit different from what is in this thread.

On a PC, SageTV does not control the Hauppauge remote, so if it doesn't receive commands from it, then I think something is happening with the remote.

- Andy

[wrems]

Originally Posted by Opus4

Are you using a Hauppauge remote and/or receiver?

No.

Originally Posted by Opus4

Is this with the MVP, or on a PC?

I'm using an MVP with a learning remote.

[garyellis]

I am using one of the programmable JP1 remotes. URC 8820....

I did use "learning" to set the select key, which could be the problem as you described. Having said that, since this is a programmable remote, can I somehow program it to fix the toggle bit problem?

If not...good to hear that there may be some relief in site in 6.2..

Thanks,

Gary Ellis

[Opus4]

Originally Posted by wrems

I'm using an MVP with a learning remote.

Then I have no idea why it changed & your previous thread about it didn't mention that you were using an MVP. Maybe the program code for SageTV's MVP remote changed.

Originally Posted by garyellis

I am using one of the programmable JP1 remotes. URC 8820....

I did use "learning" to set the select key, which could be the problem as you described. Having said that, since this is a programmable remote, can I somehow program it to fix the toggle bit problem?

If you are programming it via JP1 tools, then you should be able to program it to use an RC5 protocol. That would be the 'cleanest' way to use a JP1-capable remote.

- Andy

[garyellis]

Easier said than done, I think...

I have never tried the JP1 programming...I set up everything via learning from the Hauppauge remote. So, I guess its time to learn how to JP1 program...Do you know if I can program just that one button using RC5 protocol and leave the others as they are? (I do have the cable to attach the remote to the USB port)

Also, since I am learning this, is it worth figuring out how to program keyboard commands into the remote - like for navigating a webpage?

Thanks,

Gary Ellis

[Opus4]

Originally Posted by garyellis

Easier said than done, I think...

I have never tried the JP1 programming...I set up everything via learning from the Hauppauge remote. So, I guess its time to learn how to JP1 program...Do you know if I can program just that one button using RC5 protocol and leave the others as they are? (I do have the cable to attach the remote to the USB port)

It has been a long time since I looked into the JP1 tools -- I put some info in the 2nd post of link 2 in my sig lines. I think that doc has links to the JP1 sites, assuming the links are still the same. I don't remember whether it would download the learned codes in the remote & keep them as-is while you program a few other buttons... maybe it can do that.

I found out that the RC5 toggle bit support was a fairly recent thing added to SageTV for improved Hauppauge remote performance, so that was probably done for v6.1, then v6.2 added the property to allow going back to the old method to help with learning remotes that don't use the toggle bit. You could try the new beta & that property before spending time on JP1 just for one button.

Also, since I am learning this, is it worth figuring out how to program keyboard commands into the remote - like for navigating a webpage?

I wouldn't know anything about that... or how it would send those keyboard emulations to the PC.

- Andy