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The Cake is a lie! The Cake is a lie! The Cake is a lie! I cant wait till November because when I get this wonderfull example of modern technology installed I will be the Hero of my family. ![]() |
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Cheers Mark
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![]() That's also how the wireless beer tap must be configured. Of course you'll have to keep your keg near the server. ![]() Hope you don't have to pay extra for the module that prevents it from gassing you.
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Thin client already exists!
also the thin client I imagined already exists:
SanDisk Sansa TakeTV But it is missing hdmi and dolby 7.1 |
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Read this: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thin_client Neat little gadget, though. |
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The definition of a client is something that talks to a server. The SanDisk Sansa TakeTV doesn't - it's a stand-alone media player with TV out.
I'm guessing you are trolling, too, but just in case: a SageTV extender is a combination of hardware and software that runs the SageTV UI and allows you to playback media stored on your server using SageTV as your user interface and send commands to the SageTV server using the SageTV UI - so you can schedul recordings, browse the EPG, that sort of thing. The extender hardware is a "thin client" in the sense that it is not a full computer, it is intended to require no installation beyond plugging it in and to run only one piece of software, the SageTV user interface. It probably has no harddrive. The extender software is actually a fairly "thick" client (at least compared to a web application), as the UI is rendered on the extender hardware and a lot of the UI logic will occur on the extender hardware, but it's still totally dependent on the server - it has no files stored locally, it has no tuner so it cannot record files itself, it has no means to update or store an EPG.
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You could also say it is a dumb client because it will do no processing on it's own apart from decoding and scaling the video stream using speciallized hardware, not a general purpose CPU. All commands are sent to the server and executed on the server to be streamed to the client and displayed. I'm sure it has a general purpose CPU in there, but only to control the hardware, TCP/IP stream, relay signals to the server, etc.
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I would be surprised if a good deal of the UI logic is not processed on the client, and the UI rendered on the client. Which to my mind is not a dumb client; a real dumb client is a VNC session/Remote Desktop session/telnet session where everything is rendered on the server and all the client does is forward keyboard/mouse/remote control input and display the resulting screen.
(The SD extender used to be pretty close to a dumb client and was hence a bit unresponsive, but I think they have shifted a good deal more processing to the extender now as it is much faster. Unless they've just found a way to speed up the process...)
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All the STV code runs as if it's on the server, at least it's that way on the MVP. As far as the STV code is concerned, it's on the server (paths, OS, everything). But the UI elements are actually rendered on the MVP itself.
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"Just hook it to my vein!" - Barney after winning a lifetime supply of Duff beer for beating Homer in the astronaut competition ![]()
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Jeff, I saw that you made a post here and I thought it was something important... like pre-order details... ![]() Oh well... |
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Actually I believe it's after he wins the Springfield film competition during the Critic crossover episode. After beating homer in the astronaut competition, he gets drunk on non-alcoholic champagne.
"In a way you're both winners. But, in another, more accurate way, Barney is the winner." Last edited by fyodor; 10-30-2007 at 09:42 PM. |
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I'm not trolling!!
I'm a very positive person. I never say anything to create a negative atmosphere. But you're right if you think that I want to initiate discussions.
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If you have looked at it you found the term of "Ultra thin client". You're not right if you think, that the server-client concept is reduced on ethernet. You can also speak about server and client in a usb connection. But you're right that lan would be better than usb. (To be clear: I speak about Sandisk Sansa takeTV. It's not a standalone hardware but strongly dependent on a usb-host.) |
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But it's not. Just because a device requires a connection does not make it a client. The Sandisk can operate without the USB connection, well, connected.
You transfer files to the device, the unplug it and take it with you, from where you can plug it in (independent of a usb connection) to a TV and play back that media. As such it is not a client, it is a self-contained media player with a USB connection for loading/unloading. It's exactly like an iPod in that regard. iPod's are "strongly dependent" on their USB ports as well, but they are not clients, they are media players. A client is something like SageClient where it's useless without a connection to it's server, must be connected all the time, and continuously interacts with the server for it's data/logic. An extender, is something like the MVP where the device "extends" the UI/functionality to a remote display, but a significant portion of the processing is done on the server (all the UI logic). I still think you fundamentally missunderstand what an extender (or "thin client" as some are referring to it) is and what it's for. |
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Misunderstanding
Oh!
I see that I didn't really understand the system of TakeTV. I thought that the data and controls would be transmitted live to the docking station (by a kind of wireless). But it seems that the data is only stored on the stick and you have to transfer it manually. This excludes live streaming. Sorry! |
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