Just what is a SageTV extender? What is a thin client or a thin server?

[sainswor99]

Just a couple of points to clarify:

Originally Posted by gerdi

I'm a very positive person. I never say anything to create a negative atmosphere. But you're right if you think that I want to initiate discussions.
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I can appreciate that, but discussions involve interaction. Up until your last few posts, it seemed as if you were simply ignoring other posts in an effort to be provocative (hence my accusation of trolling).

Originally Posted by gerdi

Sainswor99 wrote

Actually, I didn't say that. Mahoney did. If you're gonna quote me, quote me.

Originally Posted by gerdi

You cited the article of thin client.
If you have looked at it you found the term of "Ultra thin client".
You're not right if you think, that the server-client concept is reduced on ethernet.
You can also speak about server and client in a usb connection.

But you're right that lan would be better than usb.

I don't think any of us specified what sort of network is involved in order to have a server-client relationship; LAN, WAN, Internet, USB, serial, whatever. It's still a networking relationship where two "computers" are sharing information. I even attempted to extend the definition to a "sneaker-net", the most primitive of networks, where information is physically carried from one machine to another. Even in that most liberal of definitions, the device you mentioned might qualify as a client, but certainly not a "thin" one.

[hedlung]

Originally Posted by gerdi

Oh!

I see that I didn't really understand the system of TakeTV.

I still think gerdi's trolling.

[evilpenguin]

Wow, Opus did some some extreme modding. Nice

[sainswor99]

Yeah, I had such a weird feeling of deja vu when I opened this thread....

[mayamaniac]

Originally Posted by gerdi

Oh!

I see that I didn't really understand the system of TakeTV.
I thought that the data and controls would be transmitted live to the docking station (by a kind of wireless). But it seems that the data is only stored on the stick and you have to transfer it manually.
This excludes live streaming.

Sorry!

That's what people have been telling you in numerous posts, but you keep stubbornly ignore to read up on what an extender/thin client is about and how it works, specifically with SageTV.

[Opus4]

Since I suppose I'm free to joke in this topic, I just have to say...

Originally Posted by evilpenguin

Wow, Opus did some some extreme modding.

... that makes it sound like a dangerous sport!

- Andy

[Enormous]

Originally Posted by Opus4

... that makes it sound like a dangerous sport!

...or a little Snip, Nick and Tuck!

[CollinR]

As far as I know the current extender is booting linux from an image tftped from the server basically possesing a VNC client. It is truely a thin client, utterly worthless by itself.

The new extender may well have enough nuts to run java, if so in theory it could manage it's own interface. Really though I prefer the way it is now, everything configured from the server on the server. The MVP loses it's mind when it loses power. I wish the Windows client had this as an optional configuration.


One thing I hadn't mentioned before that would be very cool is full IR support and an emitter port to turn on/off the connected TV. I kinda doubt the emitter port but hopefully more then 45 total IR codes would be nice.

[stanger89]

Doesn't the MVP understand almost any IR code?

[CollinR]

You may be onto something as you can map commands through an MVP, unfortunately that means this is a limitation of SageTV. As you still basically can control only the MVP interface plus a couple of unused buttons.

[stanger89]

I really thought you could just go into the Learn Commands menu and learn from an arbitrary remote. I've never tried it because the included one is sufficient for my needs. Unless I'm totally missunderstanding what you mean.

[Opus4]

Originally Posted by stanger89

Doesn't the MVP understand almost any IR code?

Not really -- the MVP can only handle RC5 type codes. While there are a lot more than 45 codes in that protocol (4096, I think), it isn't a universal IR receiver.

- Andy

[MeInMaui]

Originally Posted by stanger89

I really thought you could just go into the Learn Commands menu and learn from an arbitrary remote. I've never tried it because the included one is sufficient for my needs. Unless I'm totally missunderstanding what you mean.

I think you're partially right. I'm pretty sure the MVP can only recognize RC5 codes.

Edit: Dang it. Andy beat me to the punch again.

[sic0048]

Anyone catch the new Syabus HD media player that just came out. I wonder if this isn't the box that Sage will end up using. No idea, just speculating based on what has been said already.

http://www.popcornhour.com/

[mayamaniac]

Originally Posted by sic0048

Anyone catch the new Syabus HD media player that just came out. I wonder if this isn't the box that Sage will end up using. No idea, just speculating based on what has been said already.

http://www.popcornhour.com/

It could be. The specs look good, remote looks nice also, and the unit looks quite small too.

[evilpenguin]

Originally Posted by sic0048

Anyone catch the new Syabus HD media player that just came out. I wonder if this isn't the box that Sage will end up using. No idea, just speculating based on what has been said already.

http://www.popcornhour.com/

Web services

Video : YouTube, Google Video, MetaCafe, VideoCast, DL.TV, Cranky Geeks
Audio : iPodcast, Radiobox, ABC News, Jamendo
Photo : Flickr, Picasa
RSS feed : Yahoo! Weather, Yahoo! Traffic alerts, Yahoo! Stock, Cinecast, Traffic Conditions.
Peer-to-peer TV : SayaTV
Internet Radio : Shoutcast

Wow, Shoutcast Radio and Picasa/Flickr. Those are two killer features I wish Sage had

[Motofreak75]

its too bad that none of the extenders that I seen in this thread and others support DDplus ( EAC3 ) I guess 1536kbs bandwidth is just a bit too much for audio.....


its a shame

[mikesm]

Originally Posted by mayamaniac

It could be. The specs look good, remote looks nice also, and the unit looks quite small too.

Looks like its not ready for prime time yet. http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showt...1#post12092271 I wonder if the hd extender is going to slip into 2008....

Oh well, those dell outlet 745's are still a great deal... :-)

thx
mike

[fyodor]

If so, I hope they give us some sort of status update instead of simply letting the supposed ship date pass by without any comment.

Originally Posted by mikesm

Looks like its not ready for prime time yet. http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showt...1#post12092271 I wonder if the hd extender is going to slip into 2008....

Oh well, those dell outlet 745's are still a great deal... :-)

thx
mike

[fyodor]

FWIW, it looks like the MCE extenders are getting rolled out on schedule, so hopefully the Syabas delay isn't affecting everything.

http://msmvps.com/blogs/chrisl/archi...2/1279136.aspx

Originally Posted by fyodor

If so, I hope they give us some sort of status update instead of simply letting the supposed ship date pass by without any comment.