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Oh, and 'normal' people don't use SagetV ![]()
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It will be nice to get a surround-sound receiver with HDMI. It will simplify cabling quite a bit. I don't even have my surround sound receiver currently hooked up. No room for it until after I get married and we find a house.
It would be nice if I were independently wealthy and I could have everything centralized in a closet and have only the TV and speakers visible in the room. Not sure how that would work with game systems though.
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It doesn't cost much more than SageTV to do that. That's the setup I was planning on doing before SageTV.
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well, I may not be Normal, but I never understood why anyone in their right mind would want their audio on the same cable as their video... video should go straight to a display device, audio should go straight to an audio processor, and then to the amps... whats an audio pre/pro going to do with video anyway? or whats a display going to do with audio?
I currently am using component (1080P) and it looks just fine, I have a HDMI cable and tried that, it looked just fine too... component is much cheaper to run between my switch and TV & projector, component matrix switches are cheaper than HDMI matrix switches, therefore as I am not independently wealthy component is better... ![]() Last edited by SomeWhatLost; 03-10-2009 at 07:08 PM. |
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The other reason to use component is that until a couple of years ago receviers that switched HDMI were rather expensive, and/or they only had a couple of HDMI inputs (many TVs also only had 2 HDMI inputs). If you had several source then you may be forced to use component, particularly if you want to use your receiver for switching. Some of these issues can be mitigated by using a remote like a Harmony but if you have lots of sources you still may be limited.
And the handshaking issue with HDMI can be a PITA! My cable box (SA8300HD) can take several seconds to synch up to my TV (Sony KDS60A2020) via my receiver (Yamaha HTR6060).
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The issue is more though what the rest of the industry is done. Blu-ray and HD DVD were designed to have audio decoded in the player, to be mixed with secondary audio streams and output as PCM over HDMI (1.1+). However at some point it was decided that HDMI needed to be enhanced, that they were adding the above features, thus making source device mfgs less likely to include things like TrueHD and DTS-HD decoding. So now there's the whole "is it HDMI 1.3", "where's the decoding get done", and then there the rest of the issue of people looking for HDMI 1.3 devices because they think things like Deep Color and xvYCC will be beneficial, when nothing supports them. So, we've got HBR bitstreaming which is completely unnecessary (PCM works just fine), and Deep Color and xvYCC which have gone completely unused. In a nutshell, HDMI 1.3 bring no functional improvments of HDMI 1.2 only marketting benefits. Quote:
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Additionally, many AVRs and SSPs have video processing greatly superior to that in displays or devices like the HD extenders, so running the video at native resolution into an AVR/SSP with a good video processor can result in better quality than letting the display or extender to deinterlacing/scaling. |
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of course this is just all a matter of perspective, so just do whatever floats your boat... as long as you are happy, this is just a hobby after all, not a religion... (the proceeding statement is not direct at any one or any group in particular, it just sounded good at the time) |
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Or you could run everything to the AVR/SSP and allow it to the switching and just feed it's output through the VP. All in all, HDMI has the potential to greatly simplify connecting an HT system. One cable from each source device to a central "hub" be it a VP, AVR, SSP, or even just a TV for simpler systems, and then one connection from the hub to the display. That's much simpler than the spagetti pile of cross connections too and from all the different components. |
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