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Old 02-22-2009, 11:10 AM
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Hi,
I was a BTV user until recently and now really like SageTV. My question is that w/ BTV I had a setup where each show i would cut the commercials out with comskip then compress them down w/ ffmpeg. Works great and works great with Sage except the timeline is incorrect now. when watching a show instead of being of course at 0:00:00 it's at some random time and the end count is off. also the marker as to where you are in the show is off.

Is there some way to correct this?
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Old 02-22-2009, 06:36 PM
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Hi,
I was a BTV user until recently and now really like SageTV. My question is that w/ BTV I had a setup where each show i would cut the commercials out with comskip then compress them down w/ ffmpeg. Works great and works great with Sage except the timeline is incorrect now. when watching a show instead of being of course at 0:00:00 it's at some random time and the end count is off. also the marker as to where you are in the show is off.

Is there some way to correct this?
yes, but it involves installing the SageTV Web User Interface found here. Once you have that installed you can select the show in your browser, look for "Edit Show Info" on its page, click it and then edit the time properties near the bottom of the resulting page. Sage figures out the length of the recording on its own, but the file start time is probably off.

if there is another way anyone knows of, please chime in!
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Old 02-23-2009, 07:41 AM
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yes, but it involves installing the SageTV Web User Interface found here. Once you have that installed you can select the show in your browser, look for "Edit Show Info" on its page, click it and then edit the time properties near the bottom of the resulting page. Sage figures out the length of the recording on its own, but the file start time is probably off.

if there is another way anyone knows of, please chime in!
Thanks that did fix the time, but there has got to be a better way at least have it done automattically instead of me going in to each recording to correct. So if someone else knows a way I would appreciate knowing what.
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Old 02-23-2009, 01:21 PM
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Thanks that did fix the time, but there has got to be a better way at least have it done automattically instead of me going in to each recording to correct. So if someone else knows a way I would appreciate knowing what.
Good to hear! Unfortunately, I don't know of any other way within Sage to fix a recording's timeline other than using the web interface.

The problem seems to be the timeline in the file itself. I don't know much about commercial cutting but, you might try searching around for a different app than ffmpeg for creating the new file; I think ffmpeg is corrupting the timeline when assembling the segments. I seem to remember there was an app that could fix corrupted timelines in a file. If I recall the name I'll post. Maybe it was an option to ffmpeg itself...

In the meantime, could you live with using the .edl file from Comskip and using the commercial skipping interface instead?
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Old 02-23-2009, 02:13 PM
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You can use Videredo to do the cutting. You do have to pay for the app but it is generally regarded to be the best MPEG-2 editing software and they are working on a H.264 version. You can also automate it to use comskip files to do the cuts. One caveat - I have not used it for this myself.
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Old 02-23-2009, 07:04 PM
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You can use Videredo to do the cutting. You do have to pay for the app but it is generally regarded to be the best MPEG-2 editing software and they are working on a H.264 version. You can also automate it to use comskip files to do the cuts. One caveat - I have not used it for this myself.
I do use videoredo with comskip and it does work great. been using it for several years now.

phelme - I will look into another method to compress, perhaps handbrake.
when I get a chance i will need to take file and compare the precompressed file with the commercials cut to see when it actually gets thrown off.
thanks for all your help.
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Old 02-23-2009, 07:55 PM
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i've been having odd issues along the same lines...

in the odd instance that my HDPVR does actually record something, if I tune in mid-recording and start skipping through content watching some and then skipping more, i often find that when skipping forward it will jump forward several minutes in the video file but only a few seconds on the timeline; I will of course then rewind the content to see what i've missed and the timeline gets further messed up.

this was extremely frustrating last night and the WAF went through the floor

not sure if its directly related to this, but i'd love to know what a solution would be for recordings that are still in progress...

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