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Old 05-25-2010, 08:57 PM
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Sage7 takes 15 minutes to startup

When I start Sage7 it gets stuck at Object Database is Initializing... 42% done and stays that way for about 15 minutes until it starts. Another strange thing is that I don't get the proper Sage TV icon in the taskbar - I get the default Windows logo that you get when you have a broken link.
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Old 05-25-2010, 09:03 PM
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Anything in your log file that might say what is going wrong?
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Old 05-25-2010, 09:14 PM
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When I start Sage7 it gets stuck at Object Database is Initializing... 42% done and stays that way for about 15 minutes until it starts. Another strange thing is that I don't get the proper Sage TV icon in the taskbar - I get the default Windows logo that you get when you have a broken link.
How large is you wiz.bin file? If it's very large I've read that, that can cause it. A quote from other post is below. See if you can find search to locate it. I've never done this. I would imagine a corrupt wiz.bin could also cause this problem.

"You definitely want to keep your Wiz.bin. To speed up startup enable this in your Sage.properties file:

limited_carny_init=true

Only downside is it'll take some time before intelligent recording can kick in; but it'll still do all of your Favorite's recordings properly during that time period. "
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Old 05-26-2010, 12:05 AM
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here 20 min to start with a 80 MB WizBin-file
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Old 05-26-2010, 03:20 PM
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80 MB Wiz.bin????

Mine has been consistently below 20 MB since I started using SageTV 3 years ago. What makes it that large, lots of DVD rips?
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Old 05-26-2010, 03:29 PM
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What would a 'large wiz.bin' be? mine is 16mb
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Old 05-26-2010, 03:41 PM
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Mine is 25MB (on Vista) since I restarted from scratch around last October.
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Old 05-26-2010, 03:49 PM
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How long did it take to start up before version 7?

I have 9 TB of RAID 1 disk pairs. My wiz.bin file is just under 32 megs. It takes under 1 minute to start up.

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Old 05-26-2010, 07:07 PM
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Anything in your log file that might say what is going wrong?
I am just checking it out now and the first entry in my log file (C:\Users\wayne\AppData\Local\VirtualStore\Program Files\SageTV\SageTV\sagetv_0.txt - assuming that is the correct log file) is from 3 pm this afternoon and I restarted Sage last night about 10:30 pm just before I posted. I will try another restart and see what I get.

By the way - my wiz.bin file is 13.6MB.
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Old 05-26-2010, 07:07 PM
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Mine is slightly more than 15mb and start up is about 12 seconds.
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Old 05-26-2010, 07:55 PM
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I found the problem in the log file. It appears that Sage does not like Carlos Santana! I found dozens of entries like this in my log file and they all took more than a second to process for each song.

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Wed 5/26 21:49:59.951 [Ministry@1174ec5] Stopped trying to parse MP3 file because we couldn't find an audio syncword
Wed 5/26 21:49:59.952 [Ministry@1174ec5] Using internal format detector first...
Wed 5/26 21:49:59.956 [Ministry@1174ec5] AV Format:Ret:-2 Program:0 Duration: Format:AV-INF|f= (0:0:00.000'000.0).
Wed 5/26 21:49:59.956 [Ministry@1174ec5] Not find a valid channelRet:-2 Program:0 Duration: Format:AV-INF|f=
Wed 5/26 21:49:59.956 [Ministry@1174ec5] Now using external format detector...
Wed 5/26 21:50:00.248 [Ministry@1174ec5] FORMATERROR UNABLE TO PARSE FILE TYPE FOR FILE-1: Y:\Santana\1969 - Sessions\01 - Persuassion.mp3
Once I moved my Santana songs out of the Sage Library folders the system started in less than 10 seconds.

Brent was write - the answer is in your log file.
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Old 05-26-2010, 09:32 PM
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I found the problem in the log file. It appears that Sage does not like Carlos Santana! ....
Brent was write - the answer is in your log file.
Every once a year or so I get something right

So is there something weird about those audio files - anything out of the norm? If not I'd submit a ticket just to see if the SageTV team can figure it out.
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Old 05-26-2010, 11:58 PM
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80 MB Wiz.bin????

Mine has been consistently below 20 MB since I started using SageTV 3 years ago. What makes it that large, lots of DVD rips?
200 DVD's and intelligent recording from the first day with sage. a lot of "dont like" tv shows
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Old 05-27-2010, 12:00 AM
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I found the problem in the log file. It appears that Sage does not like Carlos Santana! I found dozens of entries like this in my log file and they all took more than a second to process for each song.

Code:
Wed 5/26 21:49:59.951 [Ministry@1174ec5] Stopped trying to parse MP3 file because we couldn't find an audio syncword
Wed 5/26 21:49:59.952 [Ministry@1174ec5] Using internal format detector first...
Wed 5/26 21:49:59.956 [Ministry@1174ec5] AV Format:Ret:-2 Program:0 Duration: Format:AV-INF|f= (0:0:00.000'000.0).
Wed 5/26 21:49:59.956 [Ministry@1174ec5] Not find a valid channelRet:-2 Program:0 Duration: Format:AV-INF|f=
Wed 5/26 21:49:59.956 [Ministry@1174ec5] Now using external format detector...
Wed 5/26 21:50:00.248 [Ministry@1174ec5] FORMATERROR UNABLE TO PARSE FILE TYPE FOR FILE-1: Y:\Santana\1969 - Sessions\01 - Persuassion.mp3
Once I moved my Santana songs out of the Sage Library folders the system started in less than 10 seconds.

Brent was write - the answer is in your log file.
mhmm i have more than 15.000 mp3 over all with mp3 for my kids. i will take a look to the log.

tnx
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Old 05-27-2010, 06:58 AM
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So is there something weird about those audio files - anything out of the norm? If not I'd submit a ticket just to see if the SageTV team can figure it out.
I haven't had a chance to check that out yet. They were ok at one time but maybe they somehow got corrupted.
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