Fixing Show Title

[jcato]

I'm having lots of problems with BMT, probably because I don't fully understand the way it works. So, let's focus on one problem and maybe it will help me figure out the rest.

I have 78 episodes of Curious George. They are properly named (Curious.George.sXXeXX.mkv) in proper season folders. In BMT, the Show Title field for each show is "Curious George/Season X/Curious George" (where X is the season number) instead of "Curious George". This causes each season to show as a series in TVBrowser, instead of all being under "Curious George".

I had a similar problem with '24', but hitting the Update Metadata button fixed it, no such luck with Curious George. All 78 episodes fail.

I tried adding this to MediaTitles.xml file:

	<match>
		<regex>[\\/]Curious George[\\/]</regex>
		<title>Curious George (2006)</title>
		<year>2006</year>
		<metadata type="tv" name="tvdb">79429</metadata>
	</match>

This didn't make any difference. I tried reloading the file and I also restarted the Jetty web server to make sure it was reloaded. If I manually edit the Show Title field, it seems to work. But, do I really have to edit all 78 shows individually.

Here's some of the error messages from phoenix-metadata.log:

2010-12-04 10:10:15,975 - ERROR; \\tower\disk2\TV\Curious George\Season 1\Curious.George.s01e47.mkv; Curious George; 516188; No metadata for: DecoratedItem: [SageMediaFile [sageId=516188, sageObject=MediaFile[id=516188 A[516191,516189,"Curious George",0@1102.07:11,11] mask=V host=htpc encodedBy= format=MATROSKA 0:11:54 384 kbps [#0 Video[H.264 29.97 fps 720x480 16:9 progressive]#1 Audio[AC3 48000 Hz 2 channels 384 kbps idx=1]{MediaType=TV, Actor=Frank Welker;Jeff Bennett;William H. Macy, Genre=Animation/Children, MediaProviderDataID=79429, Title=Curious George, MediaTitle=Curious George, EpisodeNumber=47, SeasonNumber=1, MediaProviderID=tvdb}] \\tower\disk2\TV\Curious George\Season 1\Curious.George.s01e47.mkv, Seg0[Tue 11/2 7:11:24.800-Tue 11/2 7:23:19.000]]]]
2010-12-04 10:10:16,395 - ERROR; \\tower\disk2\TV\Curious George\Season 1\Curious.George.s01e48.mkv; Curious George/Season 1/Curious George; 516192; No metadata for: DecoratedItem: [SageMediaFile [sageId=516192, sageObject=MediaFile[id=516192 A[516194,516193,"Curious George/Season 1/Curious George",0@1102.07:12,11] mask=V host=htpc encodedBy= format=MATROSKA 0:11:04 384 kbps [#0 Video[H.264 29.97 fps 720x480 16:9 progressive]#1 Audio[AC3 48000 Hz 2 channels 384 kbps idx=1]{MediaType=TV, Actor=Frank Welker;Jeff Bennett;William H. Macy, Genre=Animation/Children, MediaProviderDataID=79429, MediaTitle=Curious George, EpisodeNumber=48, SeasonNumber=1, MediaProviderID=tvdb}] \\tower\disk2\TV\Curious George\Season 1\Curious.George.s01e48.mkv, Seg0[Tue 11/2 7:12:27.650-Tue 11/2 7:23:32.000]]]]
2010-12-04 10:10:16,548 - ERROR; \\tower\disk2\TV\Curious George\Season 1\Curious.George.s01e49.mkv; Curious George/Season 1/Curious George; 516195; No metadata for: DecoratedItem: [SageMediaFile [sageId=516195, sageObject=MediaFile[id=516195 A[516197,516196,"Curious George/Season 1/Curious George",0@1102.07:19,11] mask=V host=htpc encodedBy= format=MATROSKA 0:11:54 384 kbps [#0 Video[H.264 29.97 fps 720x480 16:9 progressive]#1 Audio[AC3 48000 Hz 2 channels 384 kbps idx=1]{MediaType=TV, MediaProviderDataID=79429, MediaTitle=Curious George, EpisodeNumber=49, SeasonNumber=1, MediaProviderID=tvdb}] \\tower\disk2\TV\Curious George\Season 1\Curious.George.s01e49.mkv, Seg0[Tue 11/2 7:19:08.370-Tue 11/2 7:31:03.000]]]]
2010-12-04 10:10:16,968 - ERROR; \\tower\disk2\TV\Curious George\Season 1\Curious.George.s01e50.mkv; Curious George/Season 1/Curious George; 516198; No metadata for: DecoratedItem: [SageMediaFile [sageId=516198, sageObject=MediaFile[id=516198 A[516200,516199,"Curious George/Season 1/Curious George",0@1102.07:20,11] mask=V host=htpc encodedBy= format=MATROSKA 0:11:04 384 kbps [#0 Video[H.264 29.97 fps 720x480 16:9 progressive]#1 Audio[AC3 48000 Hz 2 channels 384 kbps idx=1]{MediaType=TV, MediaProviderDataID=79429, MediaTitle=Curious George, EpisodeNumber=50, SeasonNumber=1, MediaProviderID=tvdb}] \\tower\disk2\TV\Curious George\Season 1\Curious.George.s01e50.mkv, Seg0[Tue 11/2 7:20:12.320-Tue 11/2 7:31:17.000]]]]
2010-12-04 10:10:17,115 - ERROR; \\tower\disk2\TV\Curious George\Season 1\Curious.George.s01e51.mkv; Curious George/Season 1/Curious George; 516201; No metadata for: DecoratedItem: [SageMediaFile [sageId=516201, sageObject=MediaFile[id=516201 A[516203,516202,"Curious George/Season 1/Curious George",0@1102.07:26,11] mask=V host=htpc encodedBy= format=MATROSKA 0:11:55 384 kbps [#0 Video[H.264 29.97 fps 720x480 16:9 progressive]#1 Audio[AC3 48000 Hz 2 channels 384 kbps idx=1]{MediaType=TV, MediaProviderDataID=79429, MediaTitle=Curious George, EpisodeNumber=51, SeasonNumber=1, MediaProviderID=tvdb}] \\tower\disk2\TV\Curious George\Season 1\Curious.George.s01e51.mkv, Seg0[Tue 11/2 7:26:16.030-Tue 11/2 7:38:12.000]]]]
2010-12-04 10:10:17,532 - ERROR; \\tower\disk2\TV\Curious George\Season 1\Curious.George.s01e52.mkv; Curious George/Season 1/Curious George; 516204; No metadata for: DecoratedItem: [SageMediaFile [sageId=516204, sageObject=MediaFile[id=516204 A[516206,516205,"Curious George/Season 1/Curious George",0@1102.07:27,11] mask=V host=htpc encodedBy= format=MATROSKA 0:11:04 384 kbps [#0 Video[H.264 29.97 fps 720x480 16:9 progressive]#1 Audio[AC3 48000 Hz 2 channels 384 kbps idx=1]{MediaType=TV, MediaProviderDataID=79429, MediaTitle=Curious George, EpisodeNumber=52, SeasonNumber=1, MediaProviderID=tvdb}] \\tower\disk2\TV\Curious George\Season 1\Curious.George.s01e52.mkv, Seg0[Tue 11/2 7:27:21.480-Tue 11/2 7:38:26.000]]]]
2010-12-04 10:10:17,689 - ERROR; \\tower\disk2\TV\Curious George\Season 1\Curious.George.s01e53.mkv; Curious George/Season 1/Curious George; 516207; No metadata for: DecoratedItem: [SageMediaFile [sageId=516207, sageObject=MediaFile[id=516207 A[516209,516208,"Curious George/Season 1/Curious George",0@1104.13:58,11] mask=V host=htpc encodedBy= format=MATROSKA 0:11:55 384 kbps [#0 Video[H.264 29.97 fps 720x480 16:9 progressive]#1 Audio[AC3 48000 Hz 2 channels 384 kbps idx=1]{MediaType=TV, MediaProviderDataID=79429, MediaTitle=Curious George, EpisodeNumber=53, SeasonNumber=1, MediaProviderID=tvdb}] \\tower\disk2\TV\Curious George\Season 1\Curious.George.s01e53.mkv, Seg0[Thu 11/4 13:58:55.750-Thu 11/4 14:10:51.000]]]]
2010-12-04 10:10:18,085 - ERROR; \\tower\disk2\TV\Curious George\Season 1\Curious.George.s01e54.mkv; Curious George/Season 1/Curious George; 516210; No metadata for: DecoratedItem: [SageMediaFile [sageId=516210, sageObject=MediaFile[id=516210 A[516212,516211,"Curious George/Season 1/Curious George",0@1104.13:59,11] mask=V host=htpc encodedBy= format=MATROSKA 0:11:04 384 kbps [#0 Video[H.264 29.97 fps 720x480 16:9 progressive]#1 Audio[AC3 48000 Hz 2 channels 384 kbps idx=1]{MediaType=TV, MediaProviderDataID=79429, MediaTitle=Curious George, EpisodeNumber=54, SeasonNumber=1, MediaProviderID=tvdb}] \\tower\disk2\TV\Curious George\Season 1\Curious.George.s01e54.mkv, Seg0[Thu 11/4 13:59:59.500-Thu 11/4 14:11:04.000]]]]
2010-12-04 10:10:18,239 - ERROR; \\tower\disk2\TV\Curious George\Season 1\Curious.George.s01e55.mkv; Curious George/Season 1/Curious George; 516213; No metadata for: DecoratedItem: [SageMediaFile [sageId=516213, sageObject=MediaFile[id=516213 A[516215,516214,"Curious George/Season 1/Curious George",0@1104.13:55,11] mask=V host=htpc encodedBy= format=MATROSKA 0:11:54 384 kbps [#0 Video[H.264 29.97 fps 720x480 16:9 progressive]#1 Audio[AC3 48000 Hz 2 channels 384 kbps idx=1]{MediaType=TV, MediaProviderDataID=79429, MediaTitle=Curious George, EpisodeNumber=55, SeasonNumber=1, MediaProviderID=tvdb}] \\tower\disk2\TV\Curious George\Season 1\Curious.George.s01e55.mkv, Seg0[Thu 11/4 13:55:26.330-Thu 11/4 14:07:21.000]]]]

Thanks

[gplasky]

If they are properly named you don't have to seperate it by a season folder. If they were all in a Curious Geroge folder the title would probably be correct. And there are plugins to expose the season and episode numbers in the recordings list and actually sort it by season ans episode. So put them out there in certain folders is required.

Gerry

[stuckless]

A few releases back, JREKiwi recommended that ALL non recordings contain the relative path of the media file in the Title field. This is consistent with how sagetv does it.

The problem, as I'm discovering lately, is that if you have TV shows that are NOT importing as recordings, then the Show title becomes the relative path of the show + the show's real title. So, in your case, it's "Curious George/Season X/" plus the show's actual title, "Curious George". This also causes grouping issues when you a mix of recorded on a non recorded files of the same show.

I'm doing a release this weekend that will include a number of bug fixes, and a fix for this issue as well.

The fix will be...
1. There is not a configuration option that can be enabled, IF people want the relative path in their Titles. I personally, do not, so the default option will be false, which means, that by default no more relative paths in titles. (JREKiwi can turn on the option to get relative paths in the title )

2. There are 2 new 'batch' tools in the Tools menu.
* Add Relative Path to Titles
* Remove Relative Path from Titles
I think they are self explanatory, but these batch operations will run on NON-RECORDINGS (ie, video files), and fix the titles accordingly.

Look for a release sometime Sunday (probably later in the day).

[stuckless]

In looking at your issue again, I'm wondering if there is something else as well. Since it seems to failing after it has actually fetched the metadata.

I would try deleting your SAGETV_HOME/cache directory and try again from the web ui.

[jcato]

gplasky,

I also use XBMC so that's why there is a season folder. I like that setup, so I don't really want to change it. I have a lot of other series setup the same way and I'm not having trouble with those, only Curious George.

stuckless,

I deleted the cache files and clicked Update Metadata with the same result. All 78 failed. I'll wait for the update and try again.

Thanks!

[gplasky]

Originally Posted by jcato

gplasky,

I also use XBMC so that's why there is a season folder. I like that setup, so I don't really want to change it. I have a lot of other series setup the same way and I'm not having trouble with those, only Curious George.

stuckless,

I deleted the cache files and clicked Update Metadata with the same result. All 78 failed. I'll wait for the update and try again.

Thanks!

Looks like stuckless will have a fix out Sunday that should take care of your issue. And I only threw it out there as an option.

Gerry

[jcato]

Got the update and it fixed my problem. Thanks for your help!

[stuckless]

Originally Posted by jcato

Got the update and it fixed my problem. Thanks for your help!

Glad it worked

[MalibuDave42]

I have recorded a bunch of christmas related shows. I wanted to group them into the same folder. So, I cut and pasted the show title into episode, then entered Christmas into the show title field. The metadata saves properly when the recording is of type Movie. The Show Title field does NOT save when the recording is of Type TV.

Am I doing something wrong? (this technique did work in v6)

[stuckless]

Originally Posted by MalibuDave42

I have recorded a bunch of christmas related shows. I wanted to group them into the same folder. So, I cut and pasted the show title into episode, then entered Christmas into the show title field. The metadata saves properly when the recording is of type Movie. The Show Title field does NOT save when the recording is of Type TV.

Am I doing something wrong? (this technique did work in v6)

I verified this issue. I'll try to fix it this week. I working on another build that is due out this weekend, I think I can get that fix in there as well.

[JREkiwi]

Originally Posted by stuckless

A few releases back, JREKiwi recommended that ALL non recordings contain the relative path of the media file in the Title field. This is consistent with how sagetv does it.

I think I was wanting an OPTION of being able to retain the way SageTV does it, like you've added now.

Since that discussion however, I've been happy with the default way BMT does it's renaming for Videos. A few contributing factors to my change of heart were:
Opus saying that SageTV would maybe/possibly/probably be looking at making the use of the Title and Episode fields consistent across TV and Videos.
Fixes to the default sorting in the CVF plugin.

So, my simple "rule" to BMT naming happiness.
Use the CVF plugin if using the default BMT naming for videos and not importing as TV.

John

[stuckless]

Originally Posted by JREkiwi

I think I was wanting an OPTION of being able to retain the way SageTV does it, like you've added now.

Since that discussion however, I've been happy with the default way BMT does it's renaming for Videos. A few contributing factors to my change of heart were:
Opus saying that SageTV would maybe/possibly/probably be looking at making the use of the Title and Episode fields consistent across TV and Videos.
Fixes to the default sorting in the CVF plugin.

So, my simple "rule" to BMT naming happiness.
Use the CVF plugin if using the default BMT naming for videos and not importing as TV.

John

Plus, with the addition of the batch operations, you can also quickly add/remove relative paths to the titles

But, the option is there now, in case we ever need it

[JREkiwi]

Sean, with the changes you've done, does that mean you're going to reinstate using EpisodeTitle too?

That way it won't matter which UI plugin is used, the Title and Episode metadata will be available.

John

[stuckless]

Originally Posted by JREkiwi

Sean, with the changes you've done, does that mean you're going to reinstate using EpisodeTitle too?

That way it won't matter which UI plugin is used, the Title and Episode metadata will be available.

John

John if the relative path is option is enabled... then

TV Shows (not recordings)
Title=Series Name
EpisideName=Episode Name

Movies
Title=Movie Title
EpisodeName=Movie Title

Recordings
Title=Series Name
EpisodeName=Episiode Name

With Relative Paths enabled...

TV Shows (not recordings)
Title=RelativePath\Series Name
EpisideName=Episode Name

Movies
Title=RelativePaht\Movie Title
EpisodeName=Movie Title

Recordings
Title=Series Name
EpisodeName=Episiode Name

Does that answer your question?

[Slipshod]

Originally Posted by stuckless

I verified this issue. I'll try to fix it this week. I working on another build that is due out this weekend, I think I can get that fix in there as well.

Stuckless, did this ever make it into a released build? I'm trying to do something similar (grouping all the Dr. Seuss TV shows under a Dr. Seuss "Title"), and the "episode" name never saves correctly. (I can change show titles though)

[stuckless]

Originally Posted by Slipshod

Stuckless, did this ever make it into a released build? I'm trying to do something similar (grouping all the Dr. Seuss TV shows under a Dr. Seuss "Title"), and the "episode" name never saves correctly. (I can change show titles though)

I provide a fix for it back in december. I verified that I can sage both the title and episode for TV shows in my development environment. The current bmt release if 4.9.7 i think.

[Slipshod]

Originally Posted by stuckless

I provide a fix for it back in december. I verified that I can sage both the title and episode for TV shows in my development environment. The current bmt release if 4.9.7 i think.

Odd. I've been on 4.9.7 the whole time and am still having problems with it. If it's marked as a Sage Recording (checkbox) I can't unmark it (it will reset when saved). It also won't let me change the episode title (also resets it when saved), though I seem to have been able to work around by using the PullDown "Un-Import as Recording" option, and then setting the show's episode name.

[stuckless]

Originally Posted by Slipshod

Odd. I've been on 4.9.7 the whole time and am still having problems with it. If it's marked as a Sage Recording (checkbox) I can't unmark it (it will reset when saved). It also won't let me change the episode title (also resets it when saved), though I seem to have been able to work around by using the PullDown "Un-Import as Recording" option, and then setting the show's episode name.

I'll add an issue, so that I remember to retest this. In the mean time, if you want to try an update, and then email me your logs, maybe I can something in the logs.