HD200 Placeshifting under V7

[Docholo]

I've been using my HD200 to placeshift for awhile under Sage V6 but after I upgraded to V7 it stutters an awful lot. If I use the Windows Placeshifter
App on my laptop placeshifting buffers fine under V7 but the hardware box
just has a lot of trouble with buffering. The auto-bandwidth feature usually
decides to run at 1500 kbps average on my laptop.

Is anyone else using their HD200 to placeshift with Sage V7 successfully?

[Docholo]

Bad form to reply to one's own messages but I sent in a bug report. The
interesting portion of the log file for an HD200 placeshifting looks like
this:

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Mon 1/10 18:29:49.824 [Pusher@b6b7e3] Client Buffer size=32768 estimRateKbps=1473 avgRateKbps=1571 rateKbps=1430 estimStreamRateKbps=1638 avgStreamRateKbps=1504
Mon 1/10 18:29:49.824 [Pusher@b6b7e3] Adjusted bitrate DOWN to : 1420
Mon 1/10 18:29:50.489 [Pusher@b6b7e3] Client Buffer size=32768 estimRateKbps=1466 avgRateKbps=1562 rateKbps=1420 estimStreamRateKbps=655 avgStreamRateKbps=1531
Mon 1/10 18:29:50.489 [Pusher@b6b7e3] Adjusted bitrate DOWN to : 1411
Mon 1/10 18:29:51.447 [Pusher@b6b7e3] Client Buffer size=32768 estimRateKbps=1482 avgRateKbps=1544 rateKbps=1411 estimStreamRateKbps=1474 avgStreamRateKbps=1589
Mon 1/10 18:29:51.447 [Pusher@b6b7e3] Adjusted bitrate DOWN to : 1393
Mon 1/10 18:29:52.456 [Pusher@b6b7e3] Client Buffer size=32768 estimRateKbps=1493 avgRateKbps=1533 rateKbps=1393 estimStreamRateKbps=1310 avgStreamRateKbps=1334
Mon 1/10 18:29:52.456 [Pusher@b6b7e3] Adjusted bitrate DOWN to : 1382
Mon 1/10 18:29:55.636 [Pusher@b6b7e3] Client Buffer size=32768 estimRateKbps=1556 avgRateKbps=1518 rateKbps=1382 estimStreamRateKbps=1474 avgStreamRateKbps=1325
Mon 1/10 18:29:55.636 [Pusher@b6b7e3] Adjusted bitrate DOWN to : 1366
Mon 1/10 18:29:56.592 [Pusher@b6b7e3] Client Buffer size=32768 estimRateKbps=1524 avgRateKbps=1512 rateKbps=1366 estimStreamRateKbps=1474 avgStreamRateKbps=1328
Mon 1/10 18:29:56.592 [Pusher@b6b7e3] Adjusted bitrate DOWN to : 1362
Mon 1/10 18:29:57.711 [Pusher@b6b7e3] Client Buffer size=49152 estimRateKbps=1564 avgRateKbps=1534 rateKbps=1362 estimStreamRateKbps=1146 avgStreamRateKbps=1291
Mon 1/10 18:29:57.712 [Pusher@b6b7e3] Adjusted bitrate UP to : 1386
Mon 1/10 18:29:58.253 [Pusher@b6b7e3] Client Buffer size=32768 estimRateKbps=1514 avgRateKbps=1507 rateKbps=1386 estimStreamRateKbps=1228 avgStreamRateKbps=1278
Mon 1/10 18:29:58.254 [Pusher@b6b7e3] Adjusted bitrate DOWN to : 1354
Mon 1/10 18:29:59.508 [Pusher@b6b7e3] Client Buffer size=32768 estimRateKbps=1600 avgRateKbps=1548 rateKbps=1354 estimStreamRateKbps=1146 avgStreamRateKbps=1246
Mon 1/10 18:29:59.508 [Pusher@b6b7e3] Adjusted bitrate UP to : 1403
Mon 1/10 18:30:01.464 [Pusher@b6b7e3] Client Buffer size=32768 estimRateKbps=1505 avgRateKbps=1538 rateKbps=1403 estimStreamRateKbps=901 avgStreamRateKbps=1218
Mon 1/10 18:30:01.464 [Pusher@b6b7e3] Adjusted bitrate DOWN to : 1386 


while an XP client with the Placeshifter software under the same conditions will see

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Mon 1/10 18:35:17.412 [Pusher@1f11e9f] Client Buffer size=3844096 estimRateKbps=1539 avgRateKbps=1583 rateKbps=1540 estimStreamRateKbps=696 avgStreamRateKbps=835
Mon 1/10 18:35:17.412 [Pusher@1f11e9f] Adjusted bitrate DOWN to : 1532
Mon 1/10 18:35:18.184 [Pusher@1f11e9f] Client Buffer size=3876864 estimRateKbps=1546 avgRateKbps=1572 rateKbps=1532 estimStreamRateKbps=1474 avgStreamRateKbps=808
Mon 1/10 18:35:18.185 [Pusher@1f11e9f] Adjusted bitrate DOWN to : 1521
Mon 1/10 18:35:19.825 [Pusher@1f11e9f] Client Buffer size=3977216 estimRateKbps=1587 avgRateKbps=1565 rateKbps=1521 estimStreamRateKbps=1064 avgStreamRateKbps=1213
Mon 1/10 18:35:19.825 [Pusher@1f11e9f] Adjusted bitrate DOWN to : 1515
Mon 1/10 18:35:21.173 [Pusher@1f11e9f] Client Buffer size=4098048 estimRateKbps=1579 avgRateKbps=1580 rateKbps=1515 estimStreamRateKbps=688 avgStreamRateKbps=1010
Mon 1/10 18:35:21.173 [Pusher@1f11e9f] Adjusted bitrate UP to : 1531
Mon 1/10 18:35:21.762 [Pusher@1f11e9f] Client Buffer size=4132864 estimRateKbps=1570 avgRateKbps=1575 rateKbps=1531 estimStreamRateKbps=709 avgStreamRateKbps=878
Mon 1/10 18:35:21.763 [Pusher@1f11e9f] Adjusted bitrate DOWN to : 1525
Mon 1/10 18:35:22.364 [Pusher@1f11e9f] Client Buffer size=4163584 estimRateKbps=1585 avgRateKbps=1560 rateKbps=1525 estimStreamRateKbps=983 avgStreamRateKbps=803
Mon 1/10 18:35:22.364 [Pusher@1f11e9f] Adjusted bitrate DOWN to : 1508
Mon 1/10 18:35:24.166 [Pusher@1f11e9f] Client Buffer size=4296704 estimRateKbps=1580 avgRateKbps=1571 rateKbps=1508 estimStreamRateKbps=1310 avgStreamRateKbps=872
Mon 1/10 18:35:24.166 [Pusher@1f11e9f] Adjusted bitrate UP to : 1522
Mon 1/10 18:35:25.462 [Pusher@1f11e9f] Client Buffer size=4409344 estimRateKbps=1642 avgRateKbps=1585 rateKbps=1522 estimStreamRateKbps=819 avgStreamRateKbps=1288
Mon 1/10 18:35:25.462 [Pusher@1f11e9f] Adjusted bitrate UP to : 1537 


At any rate, the client buffer for the HD200 is being kept very, very small and that's why there is all this stuttering and pausing. Placeshifting to HD200's is broke under Sage V7. It could also be a firmware problem in the HD200 since we had to update the firmware in the HD200 to work with Sage V7.

[Docholo]

I tried downgrading my HD200 from firmware 20100909
to 20100830 and the stuttering is much less noticable. In
fact it might even be as good of playback as it was under
sage V6.

The streaming buffer size is about the same under the old
firmware though so my second post isn't a correct. Looking
at the log file entries I listed does not show why the new
firmware for the HD200 stutters so much.

No solutions but if you follow the USB downgrading procedure
you can get your placeshifting to work again.

[razrsharpe]

time to submit a bug report and see what they say.... i placeshift with an hd100 at 480i (standard def tv on the remote end) and dont have any issues...