GoogleTV 2.0 the new Sage?

[SHS]

Originally Posted by brainbone

How many modern standalone media players out there have an exposed RS-232 port? Many have an internal RS-232 header, or solder-pads for a header

None have exposed RS-232 port why well thoses are dev device and if and when it come it will not have it

Many have an internal RS-232 header

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those RS-232 ports are used for ... debug.

Wrong provide root access / upload , downlaod /and yes even log print not just debug.
It none more then good old serial port that has been a round for ages.

[brainbone]

Originally Posted by SHS

Wrong provide root access / upload , downlaod /and yes even log print not just debug.
It none more then good old serial port that has been a round for ages.

Yes... all related to the very general term: debug. RS-232 console ports are usually used for debug... So again, sticking by my original assertion: debug.

[heffe2001]

Originally Posted by brainbone

Yes... all related to the very general term: debug. RS-232 console ports are usually used for debug... So again, sticking by my original assertion: debug.

Actually, to me a better term than debug would be: development or developer

[brainbone]

Originally Posted by heffe2001

Actually, to me a better term than debug would be: development or developer

You say potato...

My original use of "output", as in "debug output" was certainly off, where I should have used "port" or "i/o".

How about the even more generic "serial console port", even though its main purpose is likely for debugging, by, yes, developers.

[heffe2001]

I agree that most likely that port is used for debugging purposes, but remember we're looking at a reference design, not a finished product, and that port will most likely be removed on shipping consumer hardware. What I'd like to see is a Sage-powered GoogleTV box that would connect to our existing Sage servers (as-is, or with a server software upgrade), with more than one company producing them. You could purchase a Sony, Logitech, or whoever GooSage extender, gaining all the streaming capabilities we've all been wanting, along with the placeshifting/Sage goodness we're used to...

A lot of people think the pictures of the 'fishtank' box pictures we've seen is what the shipping product will look like, but I can tell you from past experience (I was a pre-beta tester for WMC, and the reference WMC Client box they shipped me definitely didn't look like any of the products that wound up for sale when they were released). I'd hazard a guess that the shipping boxes will be smaller (hopefully HD300 in size), or even have other options like say a bluray/dvd drive included in the box (wouldn't that be great, a lot of people around here would love that combo).

Don't take any offense from my better term comment, I'm just sitting here bored waiting on Charter tech support to show up to fix my connection finally...

[brainbone]

Originally Posted by heffe2001

What I'd like to see is a Sage-powered GoogleTV box that would connect to our existing Sage servers (as-is, or with a server software upgrade), with more than one company producing them. You could purchase a Sony, Logitech, or whoever GooSage extender, gaining all the streaming capabilities we've all been wanting, along with the placeshifting/Sage goodness we're used to...

I think that's what we're all hoping for, but we'll likely end up with a GooSage appliance, if anything.

Originally Posted by heffe2001

A lot of people think the pictures of the 'fishtank' box pictures we've seen is what the shipping product will look like /.../ I'd hazard a guess that the shipping boxes will be smaller (hopefully HD300 in size), or even have other options like say a bluray/dvd drive included in the box (wouldn't that be great, a lot of people around here would love that combo).

I very much doubt the shipping GoogleTV 2 system will look anything like the dev-kit, but I also doubt it will be as small as the HD300, Unless it does away with the HDMI input requirement and implement a DVR "appliance" and moves to a client/server model, like SaveTV -- but, if that happens, it still unlikely for GoogleTV 2/Fishtank/Whateveryouwanttocallit.

Of course, there will be many different versions of the system, from different manufactures -- so who knows what it will look like.

Originally Posted by heffe2001

Don't take any offense from my better term comment

Not at all.

[heffe2001]

Originally Posted by brainbone

I think that's what we're all hoping for, but we'll likely end up with a GooSage appliance, if anything.



I very much doubt the shipping GoogleTV 2 system will look anything like the dev-kit, but I also doubt it will be as small as the HD300, Unless it does away with the HDMI input requirement and implement a DVR "appliance" and moves to a client/server model, like SaveTV -- but, if that happens, it still unlikely for GoogleTV 2/Fishtank/Whateveryouwanttocallit.

Of course, there will be many different versions of the system, from different manufactures -- so who knows what it will look like.



Not at all.

If the GooSage appliance would connect into my existing Sage system back end, I'm all for it, if it is ONLY online streaming, or connects to my storage machine to play back my existing media, I better up my 'net package, and reformat my media, and pray the existing system I'm running my Sage box on continues to work, just use it as a backend without any type of regular gui, and have the appliance mine the recordings folder for shows. Main drawback there would be no live-tv .

[loomdog32]

http://www.logitech.com/en-us/smartT...w&strf=partner

This is the current GoogleTV device (thats not a TV or BluRay/DVD player). This uses the EXACT SAME reference design as "Fishtank" (granted it is in a pruttyfied case and gussied up plastics and has no RS-232 port). Logitech has stated that it is not releasing another piece of hardware and will continue selling this. However, they are going to release a update to Android 3.1 sometime around late August. This will add the android market and maybe GoogleTV 2.0.

From what I can tell, this device is nothing more than a over glorified media player. It can play media on network shares and has a "pass-thru" and ir blaster to control a stb for playback of live tv.

Im tempted to buy one, but at $250 a pop, i donno......

[jm9843]

Originally Posted by loomdog32

Im tempted to buy one, but at $250 a pop, i donno......

Amazon has it for $218 and I've heard that Fry's was selling them for $179. The Revue is definitely getting an update to what people are referring to as "GoogleTV 2.0" which amounts to an Android update to 3.1 (Honeycomb), Android Market access (i.e. apps), and an overhauled UI.

[ldw58]

If one were to look closely at the screen shots of the back of the Fishtank reference designs (you probably need to blow up the shots) you'll see that there is an antenna port on the back of the box.

The screen shots I'm referring to were originally published at greek.com and referenced at gigaom.

It might just be that the reference design is using a generic box that already had space for an antenna jack (as well as a hole for an oddly-shaped DVB-T port).

Or it might be that there's a plan to handle OTA broadcasts in Fishtank.