V7 Upgrades for SageTV for Windows

[gilded07]

I've been considering an upgrade to v7 just to get current and because I've read it's easier to manage add-ons, etc.

However, the reason I haven't is because v6.6 works and works well. I have six people in my immediate family and all are well versed on how SageTV works. In fact, SageTV really is part of my family and makes us 7 not 6.

I downloaded the SageTV.exe and SageTVservice.exe that Jeff provided. Is upgrading to v7 as easy as unzipping and installing these on the server? I use (and love) comskip monitor and playback. I assume that these add-ons aren't affected by an upgrade to v7?

The last thing in the world I want right now is for an attempted upgrade to v7 to cause SageTV to be unusable or to cause me a bunch of administrative time. But I would like to take this opportunity to get onto the latest / last supported version.

Thoughts? Thanks.

[Fuzzy]

Originally Posted by gilded07

I've been considering an upgrade to v7 just to get current and because I've read it's easier to manage add-ons, etc.

However, the reason I haven't is because v6.6 works and works well. I have six people in my immediate family and all are well versed on how SageTV works. In fact, SageTV really is part of my family and makes us 7 not 6.

I downloaded the SageTV.exe and SageTVservice.exe that Jeff provided. Is upgrading to v7 as easy as unzipping and installing these on the server? I use (and love) comskip monitor and playback. I assume that these add-ons aren't affected by an upgrade to v7?

The last thing in the world I want right now is for an attempted upgrade to v7 to cause SageTV to be unusable or to cause me a bunch of administrative time. But I would like to take this opportunity to get onto the latest / last supported version.

Thoughts? Thanks.

The quick path to v7 would be to download the sagetv 7.1.9 setup files, and run that. It will 'upgrade' your install to v7.1.9. It will be unlicensed (as you've only got a v6 license), and a 21-day trial will start. You can then close out sage and stop the service, and copy over the modified .exe's form this post, and re-run it. It will then consider your v6 key as valid, and you'll be good to go with v7. You can continue using the v6 (called SageTV3.xml) STV if you like, or you can try out the new v7 UI (SageTV7.xml)... or something crazy like Phoenix.xml. If you use any PC clients, they will also need to be upgraded by installing the 7.1.9 install file. There is no need to replace any .exe files with the client, as all client licenses are the same, regardless of version.

Get the 7.1.9 download's from the beta forum here on the forums.. sticky at the top.

EDIT: oh.. and backup your sagetv folder prior to all of this so you can easily switch back if you don't like it.

[korben_dallas]

Originally Posted by gilded07

I assume that these add-ons aren't affected by an upgrade

Why would you assume that? I would assume all addons, plugins, and customizations are broken by an upgrade, especially one as major as v7.

[thestig]

In the interest of keeping this community together could you please consider one more change to the server code?
After going thru several hundreds of posts I see a valid concern of many users, myself included, as to how to expand current setups or what to do when our extenders fail. One solution is to build a client pc. But what about client licenses? Well, you can modify the server code to relax the duplicate key check. That way we can install a V7.1.9 server using our V5, V6, or V7 server licenses, run it in client mode and tada! We can expand our setups as needed. Broken extender, no problem. We can build a client pc for less than what the extenders are going for at eBay.
This should bypass the legalities and red tape of having to open the store (which I don't see how that can happen), distributing license free client code, selling client licenses, or even giving them away since there are no new licenses required just new binaries. It's not a perfect solution for people like me who prefer a quiet extender, but it's a way to preserve our investment until Google comes with something better.
Pretty please?

[panteragstk]

Originally Posted by thestig

In the interest of keeping this community together could you please consider one more change to the server code?
After going thru several hundreds of posts I see a valid concern of many users, myself included, as to how to expand current setups or what to do when our extenders fail. One solution is to build a client pc. But what about client licenses? Well, you can modify the server code to relax the duplicate key check. That way we can install a V7.1.9 server using our V5, V6, or V7 server licenses, run it in client mode and tada! We can expand our setups as needed. Broken extender, no problem. We can build a client pc for less than what the extenders are going for at eBay.
This should bypass the legalities and red tape of having to open the store (which I don't see how that can happen), distributing license free client code, selling client licenses, or even giving them away since there are no new licenses required just new binaries. It's not a perfect solution for people like me who prefer a quiet extender, but it's a way to preserve our investment until Google comes with something better.
Pretty please?

+1

[mkanet]

It looks like the two best ideas to help the SageTV community would be either to provide an HD300 firmware that could work on compatible sigma hardware or relaxing the duplicate client license check in sageTVservice.exe (mentioned below) if HD300's can't be purchased anymore. I'm sure if Google would let Jeff do either option, he would in a heartbeat.

Originally Posted by thestig

In the interest of keeping this community together could you please consider one more change to the server code?
After going thru several hundreds of posts I see a valid concern of many users, myself included, as to how to expand current setups or what to do when our extenders fail. One solution is to build a client pc. But what about client licenses? Well, you can modify the server code to relax the duplicate key check. That way we can install a V7.1.9 server using our V5, V6, or V7 server licenses, run it in client mode and tada! We can expand our setups as needed. Broken extender, no problem. We can build a client pc for less than what the extenders are going for at eBay.
This should bypass the legalities and red tape of having to open the store (which I don't see how that can happen), distributing license free client code, selling client licenses, or even giving them away since there are no new licenses required just new binaries. It's not a perfect solution for people like me who prefer a quiet extender, but it's a way to preserve our investment until Google comes with something better.
Pretty please?

[gilded07]

Originally Posted by korben_dallas

Why would you assume that? I would assume all addons, plugins, and customizations are broken by an upgrade, especially one as major as v7.

korben - rather than me assuming one way or the other, are you aware of any add-ons or customizations from v6 that were broken when upgrading to v7?

Specifically, comskip monitor and playback?

Thanks.

[gilded07]

Originally Posted by Fuzzy

The quick path to v7 would be to download the sagetv 7.1.9 setup files, and run that. It will 'upgrade' your install to v7.1.9. It will be unlicensed (as you've only got a v6 license), and a 21-day trial will start. You can then close out sage and stop the service, and copy over the modified .exe's form this post, and re-run it. It will then consider your v6 key as valid, and you'll be good to go with v7.

Thanks Fuzzy - once I get 7.1.9 up and running, all I have to do is unzip & copy over these latest .exe's to replace the 7.1.9 .exe's that are already there? I don't have to go through an installer process with the new .exe's?

I can't imagine that I wouldn't like v7 if it works but if I have a problem, I would like to be able to roll back to 6.6. In that case, I'd simply replace the v7 .exe's with the v6.6 .exe's that I saved to my USB drive?

[Fuzzy]

Originally Posted by gilded07

Thanks Fuzzy - once I get 7.1.9 up and running, all I have to do is unzip & copy over these latest .exe's to replace the 7.1.9 .exe's that are already there? I don't have to go through an installer process with the new .exe's?

yep, that's it. Just replace the .exe files with the modified ones.. that will basically relax the license checks, and let you run v7 with your v6 key

Originally Posted by gilded07

I can't imagine that I wouldn't like v7 if it works but if I have a problem, I would like to be able to roll back to 6.6. In that case, I'd simply replace the v7 .exe's with the v6.6 .exe's that I saved to my USB drive?

no, you should actually backup and restore your entire sagetv directory. the software is made up of a lot more than just the .exe files. swapping just them between v6 and v7 would probably cause quite a few problems.

[willemse]

Does someone know the answere to this???

Tks

Originally Posted by willemse

I have a license key for Sage purchased in October 2003 for version 4 and upgrade key for Sage V 6 purchased in Nov 2006.
Can I use now these keys to upgrade to Version 7?

Thanks in advance for answer.

Willemse The Netherlands

[APillowOfClouds]

Originally Posted by willemse

Does someone know the answere to this???

Tks

From the OP:
<snip>
Got some good news for now. I've been authorized to post updated EXEs for SageTV and SageTVService Version 7 for Windows. These new EXEs do not need a V7 upgrade key to run. They will run with exisiting V5 or V6 licenses. This is to satisfy existing customers who did an upgrade to V7, but the trial has expired or is about to expire on them.
<snip>

[Fuzzy]

Originally Posted by willemse

Does someone know the answere to this???

Tks

yes. Install 7.1.9, replace the .exe files with those listed in this thread, run it and enter your v4 key. Exit and rerun sage and enter your v6 key. You will then be fully licensed.

[APillowOfClouds]

Originally Posted by Fuzzy

yes. Install 7.1.9, replace the .exe files with those listed in this thread, run it and enter your v4 key. Exit and rerun sage and enter your v6 key. You will then be fully licensed.

I think he is saying he has TWO SEPARATE server licenses. If so then the v4 key won't work, the v6 will. But I could be misinterpreting. I have been known on very rare occasions to be mistaken :-P

[Fuzzy]

Originally Posted by APillowOfClouds

I think he is saying he has TWO SEPARATE server licenses. If so then the v4 key won't work, the v6 will. But I could be misinterpreting. I have been known on very rare occasions to be mistaken :-P

Originally Posted by willemse

I have a license key for Sage purchased in October 2003 for version 4 and upgrade key for Sage V 6 purchased in Nov 2006.
Can I use now these keys to upgrade to Version 7?

Thanks in advance for answer.

Willemse The Netherlands

He states v4 key, and v6 upgrade key.

[APillowOfClouds]

Originally Posted by Fuzzy

He states v4 key, and v6 upgrade key.

I think you're right. Must be my interwebs ADD.

[willemse]

The keys I have are for theSage program NOT the server licenses

So should it work???

Tks Jos Willemse

[gplasky]

You either have server or client licenses. I'm not sure what you mean by "the Sage program". It is either Sage TV Media Center (which is considered the server) or SageTV PC client software. (And of course there is Placeshifter.)

Gerry

[willemse]

The licenses are for the server
Sorry for the confusion

Originally Posted by gplasky

You either have server or client licenses. I'm not sure what you mean by "the Sage program". It is either Sage TV Media Center (which is considered the server) or SageTV PC client software. (And of course there is Placeshifter.)

Gerry

[thestosh]

Thanks so much. I was one of the ones that upgraded, but hadn't purchased the new key in time. The day I went to purchase an upgrade key was the day the trial key expired and the day that the site quit selling them.

I thought I was really stuck. Thanks again!

[irf_ca]

I took the plunge on the weekend and upgraded my v5 server running on an Oct 2003 V1.4 licence, not realizing all of this takeover stuff had happened. I had planned on upgrading due to the change over to Digital TV in Canada at the end of August because I need the different tuners/different lineups support in the newer versions. I tried the patched version of the two executables, but they don't seem to like my v1.4 key - I even dug through my email to find the original key - but re-entering that still results in 2 messages that I have an old key ... what options do I have...?