Ceton Datasheets for "Echo" and "Q"

[nebulink]

I found these datasheets for the Echo and Q. I did not see these posted so I thought I would share them with the group.
http://cetoncorp.com/wp-content/them...Ceton_Echo.pdf
http://cetoncorp.com/wp-content/them...et-Ceton_Q.pdf

[korben_dallas]

Your links are incomplete.

[nebulink]

Looks like ceton may have removed them. Here's the copies I have downloaded.

[Mitch G]

I don't see a coax connector.
And I wonder if it requires a cablecard or can work with clear QAM.


Mitch

[Fuzzy]

Yeah, the mock-up models they used for the pictures appeared to not have the Coax, even though they obviously will have them (both for the tuner, AND the MoCA).

Also, there's no mention of the Echo connecting to the Q... only to 7MC...

[tmiranda]

To me the biggest thing missing is a SageTV logo.

[panteragstk]

There is finally a real media center extender. The MC crowd is going to flip. This actually makes WMC a decent alternative.

[Fuzzy]

Originally Posted by panteragstk

There is finally a real media center extender. The MC crowd is going to flip. This actually makes WMC a decent alternative.

Exactly.. which makes me wonder the point of the Q...

[tmiranda]

Originally Posted by Fuzzy

Exactly.. which makes me wonder the point of the Q...

The point is you get the 7MC functionality without having to fuss with all that goes with buying/building a PC and then setting up 7MC. Just plug it in and it works.

[stanger89]

Originally Posted by Fuzzy

Exactly.. which makes me wonder the point of the Q...

That and they've (apparently) done quite a bit of custom work on top of WMC, they've got clients/controller apps for iOS/Android/Win8 that can control and play content remotely, lots of integrated online services and a universal search or something. Plus additional built in skins and the ability to create your own skins.

If the Q were to work with satellite somehow (like HDPVR), I would seriously consider it.

As far as the PDFs go, they really don't say anything interesting, or answer any of the really important questions, like how much of the additional functionality the Echo is capable of requires the Q (rather than just a 7MC server).

[Fuzzy]

Yeah, but everyone's pretty much already GOT a windows 7 PC in there home... all they need to do is buy some echos and a CETON cablecard tuner...

[thomaszoo]

Originally Posted by Fuzzy

Yeah, but everyone's pretty much already GOT a windows 7 PC in there home... all they need to do is buy some echos and a CETON cablecard tuner...

Or for some of us, just some echos.

But for me that will only happen after Sage stops doing what I want it to do or my extenders start dying off. And I don't foresee Sage not doing what I want it to do for at least another year or two. And it may actually be a number much greater than that.

Wayne

[stanger89]

Well that's really the problem now, I want HBR bitstreaming (finally got an SSP that supports it) for my BD rips, and frankly my HD300 is quite flaky now that I've started trying to use that. There isn't a firmware that it actually works perfectly, and unless Sage starts developing again, there won't be. So if the Echo can do BDs with 7MC, it will, you could say, be "compelling."

[panteragstk]

Originally Posted by stanger89

Well that's really the problem now, I want HBR bitstreaming (finally got an SSP that supports it) for my BD rips, and frankly my HD300 is quite flaky now that I've started trying to use that. There isn't a firmware that it actually works perfectly, and unless Sage starts developing again, there won't be. So if the Echo can do BDs with 7MC, it will, you could say, be "compelling."

My client bitstreams without any issues. You should try one. I've set up so many at this point I know exactly what works and what doesn't.

[stanger89]

Originally Posted by panteragstk

My client bitstreams without any issues. You should try one. I've set up so many at this point I know exactly what works and what doesn't.

That would be a relatively expensive proposition at this point. I don't have anything suitable for a client, at least nothing not already in use. So I'd need probably an i3, motherboard, ram, probably an SSD (because at this point I'm just philosphically opposed to putting anything else in a machine for the boot drive)... Oh, and a new server case because my HTPC case is housing my Sage server at this point.

Can Sage use LAV CUVID and madVR?

In some ways I'd like to do it again just to prove to myself yet again that PCs are inferior to hardware devices for playback.

[panteragstk]

Originally Posted by stanger89

That would be a relatively expensive proposition at this point. I don't have anything suitable for a client, at least nothing not already in use. So I'd need probably an i3, motherboard, ram, probably an SSD (because at this point I'm just philosphically opposed to putting anything else in a machine for the boot drive)... Oh, and a new server case because my HTPC case is housing my Sage server at this point.

Can Sage use LAV CUVID and madVR?

In some ways I'd like to do it again just to prove to myself yet again that PCs are inferior to hardware devices for playback.

Well, I was hoping you had enough spare parts. You are right in that would be an expensive experiment.

Sage can use LAV CUVID (now called LAV video). I just started using them yesterday with my 6570 (they work with AMD now that dxva2 support has been added). The only down side is that my Colossus recordings don't seem to like them. I'm going to experiment more later. madVR doesn't show up in the video render list.

[phelme]

Hmm, no mention of component out for the Echo. What about my ancient non-HDMI HDTV's?

If the "Q" will allow my to copy over my existing SageTV recordings and it overlays metadata on the them, I may be sold. Though this being cable-only, I would miss some of the DirecTV specific programming.

[tmiranda]

Originally Posted by Fuzzy

Yeah, but everyone's pretty much already GOT a windows 7 PC in there home... all they need to do is buy some echos and a CETON cablecard tuner...

... and setup the server someplace for 24x7 operation, and configure it, and maintainit, and ......

vs. the Q where you plug it in, configure the channel lineup and forget about it.

Your argument is like saying nobody will buy a DVD/BluRay player because everybody already has one in their computer. They're different devices, with different purposes.

I'm watching Q/Echo very closely.

[Tomahawk51]

+1

I've got the server and chops for it, but I'll also be watching this Ceton solution closely. My SageBox only does SageTV, is fine and all, but I'm not wed to running it this way. But I will need to do a feature comparison on my current Sage setup before jumping into murky (to me) waters.

I still find it crazy that this is the first extender to come along aside from xboxes. I wonder if WMC would have much more traction if they had just 1 slim, cheap option. But then again, I realize we are a niche market in the big picture (which is why it's great to have a focused company like Ceton that focus on meeting "nichey" needs).

Anything to keep me off the Comcast DVR...

[pjpjpjpj]

Originally Posted by phelme

Hmm, no mention of component out for the Echo. What about my ancient non-HDMI HDTV's?

http://www.monoprice.com/products/pr...seq=1&format=2