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Old 07-29-2012, 09:58 PM
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sold our ipads and all 3 of us got the new Nexus7's.. Never going back, and all of us were shocked we love the 7inch size of the Nexus7 over the ipads. These things are smooth, fast, and just damn handy..
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Old 07-29-2012, 11:39 PM
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sold our ipads and all 3 of us got the new Nexus7's.. Never going back, and all of us were shocked we love the 7inch size of the Nexus7 over the ipads. These things are smooth, fast, and just damn handy..
yeah the wife has an iPad (for $800 but we got 32GB/3G), looked at my $200 N7, and said "I'd have been happy with that". This is from an Apple LOVER. It is def much more convenient, didn't think an iPad would ever feel "heavy".

That said, I think its perfect as a media consumption device. I'm still going to get my daughter a Transformer Infinity as it wouldn't be good for heavy keyboard use/writing short papers.
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Old 07-30-2012, 01:36 PM
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can you use Placeshifter on a Windows tablet?
Not on mine but I am sure more powerful tablets could do it.

Placeshifter runs, but HD videos from the HDPVR don't stream and play well. I could probably tweak it, but I don't really care to.

What I do instead:
I use a "wifi N" dongle to improve wifi reception on the tablet and get better streaming speeds.
I use the included CoreAVC codec in DXVA mode.
I use XBMC (DSPlayer version) to stream from a Serviio server on my HTPC to the tablet and the results are excellent.

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Old 07-30-2012, 05:46 PM
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iPad here. 32GB/3G. My iPad 2 was a 64GB/3G. But I learned that I don't need that much space, and the next one might even be smaller since I only use about 10GB these days, thanks to iCloud and iTunes Match.

I have always looked at the competition. I use my iPad for work and at home, mostly for email, writing and browsing, in that order. All things considered, I think it's still the best solution out there.

Just a couple weeks ago we sent an iPad to my kids Grand parents in Germany, together with one of the grand kids - so that they can finally do video calls with my kids on their own, instead of having to go to my brother in law's house. They are really excited. It's not that grand dad couldn't afford it, he's quite affluent. They just needed that little nudge, you know, to get an internet connection. The iPad is just about perfect for stuff like that.
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Old 07-30-2012, 06:15 PM
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Android hit a HomeRUN with Jelly Bean.. If you never tried an Android device, or even if you have, try the Nexus7.. Its fast - smooth - and Google Now / Voice search / dictation / etc KILLS iOS's .. Does it without connecting to servers to figure out what your saying..

Google services ROCK on it.. Google+, Google Talk w/ Video Chat, Google+ Hangouts for group video conferencing, etc. Gmail, etc.. Blows away that iCloud junk..

The iPad looks like an overpriced kids toy now with a cartoon interface.. this device is priced right and perfect for kids, parents, grandparents, etc.

It just works and damn good :P

Oh and you can video chat with google services across people with notebooks, and other devices.. not just apple ones
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That said, I think its perfect as a media consumption device. I'm still going to get my daughter a Transformer Infinity as it wouldn't be good for heavy keyboard use/writing short papers.
I would agree with this.. I call tablets the perfect "Read-Only / Write sometimes" devices.. If you need to do anykind of writing of papers, blog writing, lots of emailing, etc, work.. I highly recommend the transformers (since they will get jelly Bean soon)- or just getting a notebook.
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Not on mine but I am sure more powerful tablets could do it.

Placeshifter runs, but HD videos from the HDPVR don't stream and play well. I could probably tweak it, but I don't really care to.

What I do instead:
I use a "wifi N" dongle to improve wifi reception on the tablet and get better streaming speeds.
I use the included CoreAVC codec in DXVA mode.
I use XBMC (DSPlayer version) to stream from a Serviio server on my HTPC to the tablet and the results are excellent.

Eric
Placeshifter will run 720p recordings OK, but if you record in 1080, forget about Placeshifter. Any idea what resolution you are recording in?
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Placeshifter will run 720p recordings OK, but if you record in 1080, forget about Placeshifter. Any idea what resolution you are recording in?
I don't mean to hijack the thread but why will PS work with 720 and not with 1080? If I have a beefy quad core server sending the HD1080 stream to a beefy windows client with powerful CPU and ample RAM isn't that enough power for the PS software on the windows client to do 1080?

With PS, does the windows client that PS resides on do the transcoding or does the server do it?
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Old 07-30-2012, 11:59 PM
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I played some video on the web interface using my buddies ipad, no license required. That was pretty neat. I have not been able to get that working on my android cell.
I also can't figure out what I would use a tablet for. I guess the whole Star Trek: The next generation thing got me thinking, but they use those things like they cost a $1.50 each. Who knows, since they are military they could cost 1 million and they would buy/uset them like the cost $1.50. The whole "there is no money utopia" not withstanding.
WHERES MY $1.50 TABLET OF THE FUTURE I WAS PROMISED!?!
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Old 07-31-2012, 02:09 AM
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I played some video on the web interface using my buddies ipad, no license required. That was pretty neat. I have not been able to get that working on my android cell.
I also can't figure out what I would use a tablet for. I guess the whole Star Trek: The next generation thing got me thinking, but they use those things like they cost a $1.50 each. Who knows, since they are military they could cost 1 million and they would buy/uset them like the cost $1.50. The whole "there is no money utopia" not withstanding.
WHERES MY $1.50 TABLET OF THE FUTURE I WAS PROMISED!?!
Oh sorry man, I have it, forgot to return it.
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I don't mean to hijack the thread but why will PS work with 720 and not with 1080? If I have a beefy quad core server sending the HD1080 stream to a beefy windows client with powerful CPU and ample RAM isn't that enough power for the PS software on the windows client to do 1080?

With PS, does the windows client that PS resides on do the transcoding or does the server do it?
If I have it right, the server does all the transcoding and the issue is with SageTV's transcoder and 1080i files -- it's the interlacing that screws things up, which has been my experience with a number of software "streamers" such as AirVideo, Orb, and others.
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Placeshifter will run 720p recordings OK, but if you record in 1080, forget about Placeshifter. Any idea what resolution you are recording in?
Pretty much everything is from Dish in 1080i.

From the above comment the interlacing could be the issue. Don't know, but I am happy with using XBMC as a Win8 client, or simply finding the file I want to play on the network and playing it on the tablet. Works fine that way. The advantage of the latter solution is that my tablet's video player is tweaked to use touch gestures: swipe forward jumps 30sec forward, backward goes back 7 sec, 2 fingers "zoom" is the volume control...

Might be able to do that with PlaceShifter by tweaking it, but my main video playback utilization is when I fly anyway, so I spent more time on the non-streaming setup than on the streaming.

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it's the interlacing that screws things up, which has been my experience with a number of software "streamers" such as AirVideo, Orb, and others.
Which are pretty much all based on the same ffmpeg encoder...
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