HD-PVR 2

[SHS]

Just an up date so far no problem what so ever after 36 hour of back to back 30 min recoding+channel changing and still strong ho may I think we have a real winner but there still 12 hours to go.

[KeithAbbott]

Originally Posted by SHS

Just an up date so far no problem what so ever after 36 hour of back to back 30 min recoding+channel changing and still strong ho may I think we have a real winner but there still 12 hours to go.

Is the output resolution locked on your STB, or are you using native resolution?

[SHS]

Originally Posted by KeithAbbott

Is the output resolution locked on your STB, or are you using native resolution?

Lock at 1280x720p
I see how well it work with all resolution check

[sacrament055]

I would also be curious if the audio sync works properly with all resolutions.

[Beefcake550]

Well, good to know they are ok. I can hold out on 1080p in WMC until I watch a channel in that res.
..lol

[SHS]

Just an up date so far no problem what so ever after 48 hour of back to back 30 min recoding+channel changing and so we have a real winner boy it about time only min bug here then there which has to do with Showbiz like alway there price of crap.

Originally Posted by sacrament055

I would also be curious if the audio sync works properly with all resolutions.

So far it working over well for the past 4 hours with native resolution + component 480i, 480p, 720p and 1080i, but note you must set delay_to_wait_after_tuning=8000 or end up in the wrong resolutions after channel changing becuases ocen the resolutions is set by encoder that what it records at no matter what, Now as for HDMI I don't know is there are any open 1080p channel on DirecTV or dose any know of one non HDCP copy protection channel? as far as I can there none that are open.
Now as for digital audio "aka Dolby Digital, AC3" there still hope we may see that so keep your fingers crossed.
And if do get it it most likly only be only HDMI being there no coax/optical toslink input on the device

[redondo_se]

Originally Posted by SHS

Now as for digital audio "aka Dolby Digital, AC3" there still hope we may see that so keep your fingers crossed.
And if do get it it most likly only be only HDMI being there no coax/optical toslink input on the device

Hi SHS,

Are you saying that it does not yet support AC3 even through HDMI as a fact, or are you saying that you have not used the HDMI input, and can therefore not verify that it can capture AC3 via HDMI?

[phelme]

Originally Posted by KeithAbbott

Is the output resolution locked on your STB, or are you using native resolution?

Originally Posted by SHS

Lock at 1280x720p
I see how well it work with all resolution check

I've had to lock my HD-PVR's at 720P. if I leave in the 1080i mode on the DirecTV receivers, my HD300 can't de-interlace the recordings. It's all wavy-gravy. The Adaptive Deinterlace mode makes no difference.

[SHS]

Originally Posted by redondo_se

Hi SHS,

Are you saying that it does not yet support AC3 even through HDMI as a fact, or are you saying that you have not used the HDMI input, and can therefore not verify that it can capture AC3 via HDMI?

Yes I verify HDMI can not capture AC3 and for now there no AC3 what ever so get is AAC for now, how ever as I under stand it here planing on AC3 but there no guarantees we get it.
Why well HBO, Showtime, Cinemax, Starz and Encore bcuases of High-Bandwidth Digital Content Protection carp which mean if I want to rec thoses channel I have use Component.

[SHS]

Originally Posted by phelme

I've had to lock my HD-PVR's at 720P. if I leave in the 1080i mode on the DirecTV recivers, my HD300 can't de-interlace the recordings. It's all wavy-gravy. The Adaptive Deinterlace mode makes no difference.

Try out the 1080i video on the review I did Just wondering if it still dose it.

[redondo_se]

Originally Posted by SHS

Yes I verify HDMI can not capture AC3 and for now there no AC3 what ever so get is AAC for now, how ever as I under stand it here planing on AC3 but there no guarantees we get it.
Why well HBO, Showtime, Cinemax, Starz and Encore bcuases of High-Bandwidth Digital Content Protection carp which mean if I want to rec thoses channel I have use Component.

Their FAQ claims it supports AC3 capture, so is that wrong?

http://www.hauppauge.com/site/suppor...r2-gaming.html

What type of audio encoding is made with the HD PVR 2?

There are two ways of bringing audio into HD PVR 2: through the stereo audio jacks or through the HDMI connector. When bringing audio in through the stereo jacks, audio is recorded as AAC. When bringing audio in through the HDMI connector, the audio is recorded in the format which is received. If the source provides AC3 audio, the audio track recorded is AC3. If the source provides PCM audio, AAC audio is recorded.

DTS audio is currently not supported.

Currently, the Arcsoft Showbiz application will only support trimming from the beginning or the end of a clip to preserve 5.1 audio. Any editing or cuts made in the middle segments of a clip will result in the audio being converted to dual channel audio.

AC3 audio is preserved if you are creating an AVCHD DVD. If you are creating a standard DVD the audio will be converted to 2 channel. MP4 format recordings are always recorded with two channel audio.

[SHS]

Originally Posted by redondo_se

Their FAQ claims it supports AC3 capture, so is that wrong?

http://www.hauppauge.com/site/suppor...r2-gaming.html

Your must likly not reading it rigth it clear state converted to AAC audio at the end which mean you get NO AC3 in the capture or maybe I'm miss reading it.
Beside I'm unwake of any TV that support AC3 any way so what good is dolby digital it if can't make use of it on TV live output it self, unless you used the HD-PVR2 passthrough on to your home theater systems or home theater receiver frist then that a diff story which may work or may not work which most people don't have them in there room any way.
I DBL check it but I'm 100% pettey sure there was no AC3 when I enable Dolby Digital on Sat box and in the recodings when I frist try last week.
And what think it say is that AC3 will be passthur but not on to Recording it self and will be converted to AAC audio only.

Q: HD PVR 2 currently supports Dolby Digital (AC3) and PCM

A: The audio format is "passed through" to the recording. In other words, if your source includes AC3 audio, this audio will be used in your recording. If you have a two channel audio source (PCM audio), it is converted to AAC audio.

[phelme]

Originally Posted by SHS

Try out the 1080i video on the review I did Just wondering if it still dose it.

Your 1080i works fine. Upon further investigation, the recordings I have that currently give the HD300 troubles are all 1920x1072. For example, some of the shows on TNT-HD are that resolution. These apparently started when the 1080i option was ticked on the DirecTV receivers. Which is a bit confusing because I think I'd have to set the 1080p option for that, and it's never been ticked.

[sumrtym]

So, basically a perfect working tuner but can't capture surround sound with component inputs?

Abso-freaking-useless then.

Looks like I'm still left to choosing between a Colossus or HD-PVR.

[SHS]

Originally Posted by sumrtym

So, basically a perfect working tuner but can't capture surround sound with component inputs?.

One workable solution was post here Component (YPbPr) & S/PDIF Digital Coax/Optical Toslink Audio to HDMI Converter Box that help all HDCP channels which are one's with 5.1 surround sound audio which is needed but unless they support AC3 then there no point in get that Converter Box who know what will happing in few months from now look at history of the 1st HD-PVR you see it was the same deal when it frist come out.

Originally Posted by sumrtym

Abso-freaking-useless then.

Not really as longs it works that what counts for now

Originally Posted by sumrtym

Looks like I'm still left to choosing between a Colossus or HD-PVR.

Ture if your after something rigth now there for you have no other option

[uberpixel]

SHS,

Any updates on this product?

I'm still struggling with my colossus due to audio sync and failure to load capture device issues.

I would consider using this if it will work with sage and fix my sync problems.

I'm also successfully using the magic hdcp box from monoprice that you mentioned. Let's me capture cable from HDMI.

-uberpixel

[SHS]

Originally Posted by uberpixel

Any updates on this product?

Depned on what you mean by updates?
AC3 Nothing
Personal Logo Support now that cool see below link
http://www.shspvr.com/smf/index.php?topic=12436.0

Originally Posted by uberpixel

I'm still struggling with my colossus due to audio sync and failure to load capture device issues.

Well so far I had no problem what so ever with it.

Originally Posted by uberpixel

I would consider using this if it will work with sage and fix my sync problems.

No audio sync problem what so ever
It dose work with SageTV I all ready posted the fix for rigth here in case you miss it
http://forums.sagetv.com/forums/showthread.php?t=58983

Originally Posted by uberpixel

I'm also successfully using the magic hdcp box from monoprice that you mentioned. Let's me capture cable from HDMI.

Well then if that the case then we should have no problem if we get AC3 support.

[panteragstk]

Originally Posted by uberpixel

SHS,

Any updates on this product?

I'm still struggling with my colossus due to audio sync and failure to load capture device issues.

I would consider using this if it will work with sage and fix my sync problems.

I'm also successfully using the magic hdcp box from monoprice that you mentioned. Let's me capture cable from HDMI.

-uberpixel

Maybe the box from monoprice isn't working and that's why you have audio issues? I say this because using HDMI and then moving to Component+spdif (stupid directv) I haven't ever had sync issues with either colossus. Granted, we are using different os' so maybe the driver has something to do with it?

[uberpixel]

Originally Posted by panteragstk

Maybe the box from monoprice isn't working and that's why you have audio issues? I say this because using HDMI and then moving to Component+spdif (stupid directv) I haven't ever had sync issues with either colossus. Granted, we are using different os' so maybe the driver has something to do with it?

Good thought, but the sync issues were present when I was connected via component + spdif as well (before I had the monoprice box).

It's a cumulative failure where the beginning of a recording syncs fine, but by the end it is off by almost a full second. I think this is probably due to audio signals from the cable box changing from the program to commercial and back. I tried a different STB but ended up with video stuttering so I went back to my original STB.

I've never been able to determine if this is a sage issue or a colossus issue and thought this new hdpvr box may handle the audio better.

Unfortunately with all of the variables involved, i probably jut need to buy one and try it.

-uberpixel

[MilkmanCDN]

Purchased a couple of these to give them a try. Couldn't resist tearing one of them apart (and putting it back together of course) to see how they're made. I found the plastics construction ingenious, with reassembly taking very few steps. Only 4 screws hold the device together. Plastic clips integrated into the molding holds everything else together.

What I found disappointing was that the board was placed upside-down inside the chassis. That wouldn't be a bad thing, except for the Magnum DX6215 chip (with large heat-sink) in the center of the PCB. Heat will conduct up and wick through entire board. Looks like the designers wanted to minimize component count/assembly steps. The main power switch was placed on top of the device (and bottom of the PCB), which makes for a cheaper design, as opposed to a side-mounted switch. Also noticed that they used a thermal pad between the DX6215 and heatsink (which I promptly replaced with AS5). The bottom of the device features numerous holes in the chassis. I suspect that the device would stay cooler if operated upside-down.

For those of you that are interested in the electronic components and their associated connections, I've attached a block-diagram of the internals.

Comments/Questions are welcome.