HDMI vs component & Hauppauge tuners

[tvmaster2]

for the purpose of supplying a HD signal to Sage via Hauppauge tuners (HD PVR - Colossus), I am confused about something:

is it possible to feed these tuners an HD signal via HDMI (from a cable set-top-box or satellite receiver), or is component your only choice? Is it reliant on the technology of your provider, or the HDMI signal in general.
Reason for asking - my satellite company is discontinuing its only receiver that has component outputs (they have a component PVR, but it's far more expensive and redundant with Sage), and I'd rather not buy a backup receiver if HDMI would work somehow.

[peternm22]

HDMI only works if the signal isn't encrypted with HDCP.

Your satellite company (Shaw Direct) does encrypt their HDMI outputs so you're out of luck.

[tvmaster2]

Originally Posted by peternm22

HDMI only works if the signal isn't encrypted with HDCP.

Your satellite company (Shaw Direct) does encrypt their HDMI outputs so you're out of luck.

ok, thanks. I assume Cox Cable does the same thing as well then....

[SHS]

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[tvmaster2]

interesting. thanks

[rwc]

Great find! Is it ok to talk about those products here? Or is that a no-no?

[Skirge01]

If you're talking about using it for illegal purposes, then the answer is almost certainly no. But, if you're talking about using it for things that are legal, such as using a legal device with HDMI output to feed another device--such as a TV--which simply doesn't support the HDCP protocol, then you're probably okay. If you're unsure, it's probably better to discuss it somewhere else.

[stanger89]

I'm not sure why you'd want to bother, there's really no quality difference between HDMI and component.

That is unless your STB has no Component at all, but I don't know that anyone's doing that.

[SHS]

As long it in ref to the splitter, Dual HDMI output is for feeding another device--such as Dual TV--which simply means that device doesn't support the HDCP protocol that.
DON'T Call it the other two name like the Thread Name at VCDhelp or 2nd other one which has to do with CD/DVD & Blu-ray disc which all do any any way, any way you get picture I hope.
How ever if you get one just say it work and nothing more.

[SHS]

Originally Posted by stanger89

I'm not sure why you'd want to bother, there's really no quality difference between HDMI and component.

That is unless your STB has no Component at all, but I don't know that anyone's doing that.

That maybe ture but it dose cut down on wiring mess

[stanger89]

Unless you have to use some sort of device, in which case, instead of 1 video and one audio cable, you have two HDMI cables and a device.

[equalize]

Originally Posted by SHS

How ever if you get one just say it work and nothing more.

It works

[wayner]

Originally Posted by stanger89

I'm not sure why you'd want to bother, there's really no quality difference between HDMI and component.

That is unless your STB has no Component at all, but I don't know that anyone's doing that.

These splitter are insurance for the future when component outputs are no longer included or they are disabled to close the Analog hole.

[tvmaster2]

Originally Posted by wayner

These splitter are insurance for the future when component outputs are no longer included or they are disabled to close the Analog hole.

which is exactly what my satellite company did; discontinue their only component-out receiver, claiming no one wanted to buy it....uh huh. very suspicious indeed

[Evil_Attorney]

Originally Posted by stanger89

I'm not sure why you'd want to bother, there's really no quality difference between HDMI and component.

That is unless your STB has no Component at all, but I don't know that anyone's doing that.

For the record, I did see a noticeable quality improvement from the HDPVR 1212 to the HDPVR2 1512 via HDMI, both at the same bitrate. It's possible that the HDPVR2 has a better encoder chip on it, but definitely a difference. It's really a shame that it won't work with the HD300 for live TV.

[KeithAbbott]

Anyone have any experience with this splitter from Monoprice? Specifically, does it share all of the same qualities as the splitter posted above by SHS?

The built-in HDMI pigtail is a nice feature, and it supposedly can be powered from the HDMI connection, no external power supply is required.

[nyplayer]

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[SWKerr]

Originally Posted by KeithAbbott

Anyone have any experience with this splitter from Monoprice? Specifically, does it share all of the same qualities as the splitter posted above by SHS?

The built-in HDMI pigtail is a nice feature, and it supposedly can be powered from the HDMI connection, no external power supply is required.

Originally Posted by bigo93bronco

Here's the ones ya want http://www.ebay.com/itm/ViewHD-1x2-H...item3f0378859d

I recently purchased this one from the ebay link and it correct all of my DirecTV H20 tuning issues with HDMI.

But... if the Monoprice unit worked I would buy it. It would be worth it if you did not have to have the power brick and one less cord to deal with.

[KryptoNyte]

It looks like there is a power brick w/cord that you would require (packaged with the unit) regarding the Monoprice unit.

[trk2]

I just wanted to add that I purchased this splitter to go along with my Dish Network HD box and my Colossus. The features of the splitter worked as advertised. Having used it for a couple weeks, it is a superior solution to using component capture.