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[tmiranda]

Originally Posted by scoful

If I went crazy and decided to move to a Linux server would my SageTV for Windows key work for EPG access?

No, the keys are different and not interchangable.

[Fuzzy]

Originally Posted by tmiranda

No, the keys are different and not interchangable.

I believe he's talking about using the Open Source (v9) version of Sage, where the license key is only used for EPG access. Any license key SHOULD be working for that, and it shouldn't matter what system OS it is coming from.

[18Scoobz]

So right now there is only a version for Linux. Is there a way to install it on windows?

[Fuzzy]

There is nothing stopping it from being compiled for windows, as far as I know, it just takes many tools to do so, and there is not currently a nice clean script to automate the task.

[SHS]

Originally Posted by Fuzzy

There is nothing stopping it from being compiled for windows, as far as I know, it just takes many tools to do so, and there is not currently a nice clean script to automate the task.

But it build with Visual Studio 2005

[Fuzzy]

Originally Posted by SHS

But it build with Visual Studio 2005

Parts of it are built with VS 2005. Parts are compiled with mingw. Then the java bits are compiled separately.

[cncb]

It's too bad Jeff couldn't put together an (Windows) installer with some free tool because it seems like it will take someone quite a while to figure out and build all the parts that need to be part of the installation.

[SHS]

Originally Posted by Fuzzy

Parts of it are built with VS 2005. Parts are compiled with mingw. Then the java bits are compiled separately.

And now I have headache

[moothekow]

Originally Posted by SHS

And now I have headache

+1.

[stanger89]

If you're willing to live dangerously, and the comments I've read are right, you could grab the jar from the compiled linux version and drop it in an existing Windows install.

[Fuzzy]

Windows development, for the most part, sucks... it sucked a lot more in 2003 before .net came out. In any case, the biggest hurdle is java running in a virtual machine, and then interfacing with hardware outside said virtual machine, which is the reason for the huge mix of languages.

[tmiranda]

Originally Posted by 18Scoobz

So right now there is only a version for Linux. Is there a way to install it on windows?

Yes and no. Most of the core functionality of Sage is contained in the Sage.jar file. You can build the jar under linux and then use it in a Windows install. (replacing the existing Sage.jar.)

See here: http://forums.sagetv.com/forums/show...t=62252&page=9

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[Narflex]

Originally Posted by tmiranda

No, the keys are different and not interchangable.

Actually...it would work. The EPG server doesn't care what client you are on. It just cares about a valid key. All you'd need to do is put your SageTV license key in a file called 'activkey' in the same folder as your SageTV install. You can deduce that by looking at the 'startsage' and 'startsagecore' startup scripts for it.

[Narflex]

Originally Posted by cncb

It's too bad Jeff couldn't put together an (Windows) installer with some free tool because it seems like it will take someone quite a while to figure out and build all the parts that need to be part of the installation.

Exactly why I didn't have the time to do it either myself right now.

All the DLL, EXE and AX files should build fine (I verified this before the release). The JAR file is the same for both platforms....the script that builds the JAR file on Linux can easily be adapted to Windows...or just load it all up in NetBeans (then exclude the files it complains about, such as the ones left in there for Mac) and compile it all up.

For the other bits (such as mplayer, ffmpeg, freetype/imageloader JNI libs)..we didn't build those every release, and only did when they changed...so we generally just kept around the prior binaries and reused them (which you can get out of the V7 SageTV installs easily or from your current setup). ALTHOUGH I do believe some things may have changed in the freetype/imageloader JNI interfaces, so you probably would need to recompile those with mingw....but you could try it, and if it fails, it'll tell you pretty clearly about it.

[mechling-burgh]

Question on the key for EPG Data. Would you need to use the first key you got ie my sage version 2 key or would I use the version upgrade key in that file. The reason I ask is I know some people have been having problems finding there original keys.

[Narflex]

Originally Posted by mechling-burgh

Question on the key for EPG Data. Would you need to use the first key you got ie my sage version 2 key or would I use the version upgrade key in that file. The reason I ask is I know some people have been having problems finding there original keys.

Either one should work...if they don't...just send me a PM and I'll verify the key and then enable it.

[jm9843]

Originally Posted by Narflex

The EPG server doesn't care what client you are on. It just cares about a valid key. All you'd need to do is put your SageTV license key in a file called 'activkey' in the same folder as your SageTV install.

To clarify: existing users with a valid license key (version doesn't matter) who want to upgrade to STV v9 and continue talking to the EPG server should do one of the following:

1. Linux built from source: put your SageTV license key in a file called 'activkey' in the same folder as your SageTV install
2. Windows built from source: put your SageTV license key in a global environment variable called 'SAGETVUSERKEY'
3. Windows using updated jar method: no action required

Is that right? Something for a future STVOS FAQ sticky.

[ckewinjones]

Originally Posted by cncb

it seems like it will take someone quite a while to figure out and build all the parts that need to be part of the installation.

True, but figuring out where all the pieces are for installation is a good start on learning the SageTV architecture. The effort will pay off.

I'm in the middle of moving and remodeling our old house right now, so I won't be able to get started right away; but I'm willing to make the effort and put an installer together. Of course, if someone else wants to do it in the meantime, I won't be offended.

[PLUCKYHD]

Originally Posted by Narflex

Exactly why I didn't have the time to do it either myself right now.

Man everyone is such windows haters around here

I played with it a little in all honesty it's probably easier for me to build in Linux.

The route further to me is making a universal windows 10 app that access sagetv (more of just a new front end that access's sagetv as backend). To me that would be all I need as it would give me great cheap intel (ie hp stream) extender access.

Now where did I put all that free time I had....

[ThePaladinTech]

Originally Posted by PLUCKYHD

The route further to me is making a universal windows 10 app that access sagetv (more of just a new front end that access's sagetv as backend). To me that would be all I need as it would give me great cheap intel (ie hp stream) extender access.

Now where did I put all that free time I had....

Find that free time - A windows 8 / 10 / modern app would be great... especially if it could replace placeshifter as well! And if it would work on Windows Phone that would be amazing.