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Old 07-20-2019, 08:15 AM
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I couldn't find it to install via the Fire Stick appstore, but easily found it on the web on my computer, and told Amazon to send it to my firestick, which worked. The one problem I'm having is that it doesn't play .mpg file video. It plays everything else. When I had the same issue on my MiBox I sideloaded version 1.35. The Fire stick version is 1.30, and when I tried to sideload 1.35, the install failed. I did find the setting to enable non-appstore apps, so that wasn't the issue. Has anyone had any success with this or with otherwise getting .mpg files to play on the Fire stick? All my recordings come in as .mpg and though I convert most of them within a day or two, as-yet unconverted recordings or recordings in progress are all mpg, so being able to play them would be a big help.
How do you “tell Amazon” to send it to your Firestick?
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Old 07-20-2019, 09:47 AM
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Not sure about .mpg, my recordings are .ts and they work - you can change an entry in the sage.properties file to save your recordings as .mpg or .ts. Also, I see that the 4K fire stick has hardware MPEG-2 decoding, but not sure about the non-4K versions. To download the sagetv app, I don't recall the exact procedure by I went to "apps" in the menu, pressed the microphone button and said something like "download sagetv app" and it found it -then I downloaded.
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Old 07-20-2019, 11:02 AM
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[QUOTE=

consumer.dynamic.default=opendct.consumer.FFmpegTransSageTVConsumerImpl
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the only line I have that didn't match was this one. I shut down both the sage and opendct dockers, adjusted the opendct.properties file to the above, and start opendct docker. Checked properties file again, and it has retained the FFmpeg changed. When I start the sage docker, I watched in notepad++ as the opendct properties file gets rolled back to:

consumer.dynamic.default=opendct.consumer.MediaServerConsumerImpl

I have never understood anything about transcoding, remuxing, etc. Is there some kind of program or something I have to put in place somewhere, or a setting in the sage props file?
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Old 07-20-2019, 04:50 PM
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That sounds right - not sure why the settings wouldn't stick - I am attaching my entire Opendct file in case that helps (note: I have a Ceton PCIe6 which I am using, a HDHR Quatro which I am using but also a HDHR Prime=not using and HDTC-2US=not using - so some entries in there don't matter) - the other thing is make sure when you setup video sources that you use the OpenDCT versions of the tuners - you may have two entries for the HDHR products).
Transcoding would be changing the video from MPEG-2 to MPEG-4 for example - you probably don't want to do that, as most CPUs can only peform one or two transcodes in real-time - transcoding is handled by FFMPEG in OpenDCT, so the empty transcode profile = FFMPEG re-mux (basically re-frames the video/audio data) - you don't need another program in the middle it is handled by OpenDCT - you can try asking for help in the OpenDCT thread too.
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Old 07-20-2019, 05:53 PM
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That sounds right - not sure why the settings wouldn't stick - I am attaching my entire Opendct file in case that helps (note: I have a Ceton PCIe6 which I am using, a HDHR Quatro which I am using but also a HDHR Prime=not using and HDTC-2US=not using - so some entries in there don't matter) - the other thing is make sure when you setup video sources that you use the OpenDCT versions of the tuners - you may have two entries for the HDHR products).
Transcoding would be changing the video from MPEG-2 to MPEG-4 for example - you probably don't want to do that, as most CPUs can only peform one or two transcodes in real-time - transcoding is handled by FFMPEG in OpenDCT, so the empty transcode profile = FFMPEG re-mux (basically re-frames the video/audio data) - you don't need another program in the middle it is handled by OpenDCT - you can try asking for help in the OpenDCT thread too.
Just took a gander at your properties file it looks corrupted ... You might want to delete and recreate it.

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How do you “tell Amazon” to send it to your Firestick?
On the computer, I found the app, and when I asked to "get" it, there was an option somewhere to send it to the fire stick. I couldn't find it via the Fire Stick interface, but maybe just didn't use the right magic words to search for it. I tried "SageTV Miniclient" "Find SageTV" etc.
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Not sure about .mpg, my recordings are .ts and they work - you can change an entry in the sage.properties file to save your recordings as .mpg or .ts. Also, I see that the 4K fire stick has hardware MPEG-2 decoding, but not sure about the non-4K versions.
I have the non-4K version, just bought for Prime Day & just set up, after receiving earlier this week. Where in sage.properties do you set up .ts as the format? And will that work for all kind of tuners or only the OTA ones? Any downside to saving as .ts, assuming I can get it enabled?

I'm still looking into side-loading 1.35, which fixed the same problem on my Mi Box. I tried on the Fire Stick, but the installation failed.
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On the computer, I found the app, and when I asked to "get" it, there was an option somewhere to send it to the fire stick. I couldn't find it via the Fire Stick interface, but maybe just didn't use the right magic words to search for it. I tried "SageTV Miniclient" "Find SageTV" etc.
thanks, after searching for about two hours I found it. duh. lol
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Just took a gander at your properties file it looks corrupted ... You might want to delete and recreate it.

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\u0000\u0000\u0000\u0000\u0000\u0000\u0000\u0000\u0000\u0000\u0000\u0000\u0000\u0000\u0000\u0000\u0000\u0000\u0000\u0000\u0000\u0000\u0000\u0000\u0000\u0000\u0000\u0000\u0000\u0000\u0000\u0000\u0000\u0000\u0000\u0000\u0000\u0000\u0000\u0000\u0000\u0000\u0000\u0000\u0000\u0000\u0000\u0000\u0000\u0000\u0000\u0000\u0000\u0000\u0000\u0000\u0000\u0000\u0000\u0000\u0000\u0000\u0000\u0000\u0000\u0000\u0000\u0000\u0000\u0000\u0000\u0000\u0000\u0000\u0000\u0000\u0000\u0000\u0000\u0000\u0000\u0000\u0000\u0000\u0000\u0000\u0000\u0000\u0000\u0000\u0000\u0000\u0000\u0000\u0000\u0000\u0000\u0000\u0000\u0000\u0000\u0000\u0000\u0000\u0000\u0000\u0000\u0000\u0000\u0000\u0000\u0000\u0000\u0000\u0000\u0000\u0000\u0000\u0000\u0000\u0000\u0000\u0000\u0000\u0000\u0000\u0000\u0000\u0000\u0000\u0000\u0000\u0000\u0000\u0000\u0000\u0000\u0000\u0000\u0000\u0000\u0000\u0000\u0000\u0000\u0000\u0000\u0000\u0000\u0000\u0000\u0000\u0000\u0000\u0000\u0000\u0000\u0000\u0000\u0000\u0000\u0000\u0000\u0000\u0000\u0000\u0000\u0000\u0000\u0000\u0000\u0000\u0000\u0000\u0000\u0000\u0000\u0000\u0000\u0000\u0000\u0000\u0000\u0000\u0000\u0000\u0000\u0000\u0000\u0000\u0000\u0000\u0000\u0000\u0000\u0000\u0000\u0000\u0000\u0000\u0000\u0000\u0000\u0000\u0000\u0000\u0000\u0000\u0000\u0000\u0000\u0000\u0000\u0000\u0000\u0000\u0000\u0000\u0000\u0000\u0000\u0000\u0000\u0000\u0000\u0000\u0000\u0000\u0000\u0000\u0000\u0000\u0000\u0000\u0000\u0000\u0000\u0000\u0000\u0000\u0000\u0000\u0000\u0000\u0000\u0000\u0000\u0000\u0000\u0000\u0000\u0000\u0000\u0000\u0000\u0000\u0000\u0000\u0000\u0000\u0000\u0000\u0000\u0000\u0000\u0000\u0000\u0000\u0000\u0000\u0000\u0000\u0000\u0000\u0000\u0000\u0000\u0000\u0000\u0000\u0000\u0000\u0000\u0000\u0000\u0000\u0000\u0000\u0000\u0000\u0000\u0000\u0000\u0000\u0000\u0000\u0000\u0000\u0000\u0000\u0000\u0000\u0000\u0000\u0000\u0000\u0000\u0000\u0000\u0000\u0000\u0000\u0000\u0000\u0000\u0000\u0000\u0000\u0000\u0000\u0000\u0000\u0000\u0000\u0000\u0000\u0000\u0000\u0000\u0000\u0000\u0000\u0000\u0000\u0000\u0000\u0000\u0000\u0000\u0000\u0000\u0000\u0000\u0000\u0000\u0000\u0000\u0000\u0000\u0000\u0000\u0000\u0000\u0000\u0000\u0000\u0000\u0000\u0000\u0000\u0000\u0000\u0000\u0000\u0000\u0000\u0000\u0000\u0000\u0000\u0000\u0000\u0000\u0000\u0000\u0000\u0000\u0000\u0000\u0000\u0000\u0000\u0000\u0000\u0000\u0000\u0000\u0000\u0000\u0000\u0000\u0000\u0000\u0000\u0000\u0000\u0000\u0000\u0000\u0000\u0000\u0000\u0000\u0000\u0000\u0000\u0000\u0000\u0000\u0000\u0000\u0000\u0000\u0000\u0000\u0000\u0000\u0000\u0000\u0000\u0000\u0000\u0000\u0000\u0000\u0000\u0000\u0000\u0000\u0000\u0000\u0000\u0000\u0000\u0000\u0000\u0000\u0000\u0000\u0000\u0000\u0000\u0000\u0000\u0000\u0000\u0000\u0000\u0000\u0000\u0000\u0000\u0000\u0000\u0000\u0000\u0000\u0000\u0000\u0000\u0000\u0000\u0000\u0000\u0000\u0000\u0000\u0000\u0000\u0000\u0000\u0000\u0000\u0000\u0000\u0000\u0000\u0000\u0000\u0000\u0000\u0000\u0000\u0000\u0000\u0000\u0000\u0000\u0000\u0000\u0000\u0000\u0000\u0000\u0000\u0000\u0000\u0000\u0000\u0000\u0000\u0000\u0000\u0000\u0000\u0000\u0000\u0000\u0000\u0000\u0000\u0000\u0000\u0000\u0000\u0000\u0000\u0000\u0000\u0000\u0000\u0000\u0000\u0000\u0000\u0000\u0000\u0000\u0000\u0000\u0000\u0000\u0000\u0000\u0000\u0000\u0000\u0000\u0000\u0000\u0000\u0000\u0000\u0000\u0000\u0000\u0000\u0000\u0000\u0000\u0000\u0000\u0000\u0000\u0000\u0000\u0000\u0000\u0000\u0000\u0000\u0000\u0000\u0000\u0000\u0000\u0000\u0000\u0000\u0000\u0000\u0000\u0000\u0000\u0000\u0000\u0000\u0000\u0000\u0000\u0000\u0000\u0000\u0000\u0000\u0000\u0000\u0000\u0000\u0000\u0000\u0000\u0000\u0000\u0000\u0000\u0000\u0000\u0000\u0000\u0000\u0000\u
Good question - I saw that but it is on a single line and since everything is working great, I am ignoring it for now. I didn't put it in there.
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I know I'm going back to one of the earlier posts in this chain but I've had very good luck using recent Sony smart TVs running AndriodTV to run the mini client.

Our streams are care of Verizon FIOS to Ceton cablecard (ethernet) remuxed by ENE's OpenDCT magic. Here's the kicker - we've been able to stream both live and recorded TV in full HD over out site-to-site VPN from PA to a remote island in SC.

The download (Comcast) endpoint registers 75-150Mb/s file transfers at 45-65ms ping times. Admittedly if ping times peak over 100ms things get funky...

Frankly the Sony TV has worked better for us than the Shield in testing with recent versions. Go Stuckless!
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I know I'm going back to one of the earlier posts in this chain but I've had very good luck using recent Sony smart TVs running AndriodTV to run the mini client.

Our streams are care of Verizon FIOS to Ceton cablecard (ethernet) remuxed by ENE's OpenDCT magic. Here's the kicker - we've been able to stream both live and recorded TV in full HD over out site-to-site VPN from PA to a remote island in SC.

The download (Comcast) endpoint registers 75-150Mb/s file transfers at 45-65ms ping times. Admittedly if ping times peak over 100ms things get funky...

Frankly the Sony TV has worked better for us than the Shield in testing with recent versions. Go Stuckless!
Do you know what model Sony TV you are using? I tested it a few version back with a Sony XBR-65X850D and had performance problem.
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Sage is still the best way to control commercials and watch sports, so it's not going anywhere in our house.
Do you still use Sage to watch ripped movies?

Maybe it's just me, but Kodi's movie-watching UI doesn't even seem close to Sage's.
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Yes, but I can't say I've exhaustively looked for better options. I have plex, but really just use it for pictures. We dont watch movies all that often. I do like Sage's ability via BMT and Gemstone to separate movies from TV no matter the source or folder.
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