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Old 10-31-2004, 11:02 AM
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Also, how the heck do you do screenshots in Windows?
Printscreen takes the whole screen
Alt+Printscreen takes just the app with focus
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Old 10-31-2004, 11:13 AM
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Once I saw this thread I went out immediately and purchased a MediaMVP from Circuit City as my PVR-350 card quit working on Saturday.

I have been playing with it all night and have only found one issue that hopefully is a problem Matt can solve.

When I change the aspect ratio to anything other than Fill the screen stays dark like the UI is always on even when the UI times out. The Fill setting is fine for the shows I record so the unit is still quite usable but I am unable to play alot of programs in my import library without them being distorted.

Thanks for the great work and please set up a PayPal account soon!

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Old 10-31-2004, 11:29 AM
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Ok, I have this setup with one MVP. Working pretty well.

Couple questions though.

1. When I hit FFWD/RWD, etc and the on-screen menu pops up (show info at top, timwline on bottom) the ENTIRE screen gets dark. Is that what you meant in the readme file about the semi-transparent ODS being dark? I guess I thought it would have just been dark in the overlayed areas.

2. In a future version can we PLEASE get customizable remote control button functionality? I would love to remap a few of the Media MVP buttons to other functions. For instance I don't need a button to go straight to the guide, I do need a Custom 4 & 5 for COMSKIP use, etc. That would be wonderful.

Works good though! Thanks.

Jason Bottjen
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Old 10-31-2004, 11:53 AM
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I went out and bought a MVP today. I was waiting until a client was released and OMG, thank you Matt!!!! I couldnt be happier with this!
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Old 10-31-2004, 12:27 PM
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Problems with Live TV on clients

I have 2 MVP's up and working as clients, but I can't get the clients to change the channel in live TV. The channel will show as changed on the OSD, i.e., it will show going from channel 2 to channel 3, but channel 2 will continue to play. Has anyone else seen this problem? It might just be a problem with my client set up as I had never used the client prior to this MVP client release. Any help would be appreciated.
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Old 10-31-2004, 02:33 PM
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Just placed my order for 2 MediaMVPs from Buy.com. Hopefully by the time they arrive I will actually be able live in my house again...and more importantly put one of them in the master bed room so we can watch Sage TV in Bed.

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Old 10-31-2004, 03:34 PM
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Wow! I'm so psych'd for this I'm tempted to try the 2.1 beta even though my current 2.0 is very stable! Is this full Client functionality? Change channel? Add/Modify/delete recordings? Also, what is the performance like for the MVP...or is it totally server dependant?

Thanks!
Wondering if anyone could comment on the questions above?

Also, do you still neep the Hauppauge MVP Software...or does this solution take care of everything?

...one more question; does this mod show and act like the STV running on the SageClient? For example, if I am using Neilm's STV with comskip on the MVP enabled SageClent will I get comskip and custom menus?

Thanks!

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Old 10-31-2004, 03:44 PM
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Actually, someone already commented on it. But I will too...

You get exactly what you would see on the PC client screen. All it is doing, in fact, is taking the screen you see on your PC and encoding it and sending to the MVP. Then when you watch video, it sends the MPEG stream straight to the MVP for decoding.

The Hauppauge MVP software can not be running at the same time you are using the Sage interface. So, no, you don't NEED the Hauppauge software anymore. HOWEVER, you can not adjust some MVP specific settings like flicker reduction from the Sage interface. So if you need to change those settings you would have to stop sage, load the Hauppauge MVP software, change the setting, close the Hauppaugre software & services, reload Sage MVP interface.

Make sense?

Jason Bottjen

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Wondering if anyone could comment on the questions above?

Also, do you still neep the Hauppauge MVP Software...or does this solution take care of everything?

Thanks!
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Old 10-31-2004, 03:55 PM
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Actually, someone already commented on it. But I will too...

You get exactly what you would see on the PC client screen. All it is doing, in fact, is taking the screen you see on your PC and encoding it and sending to the MVP. Then when you watch video, it sends the MPEG stream straight to the MVP for decoding.

The Hauppauge MVP software can not be running at the same time you are using the Sage interface. So, no, you don't NEED the Hauppauge software anymore. HOWEVER, you can not adjust some MVP specific settings like flicker reduction from the Sage interface. So if you need to change those settings you would have to stop sage, load the Hauppauge MVP software, change the setting, close the Hauppaugre software & services, reload Sage MVP interface.

Make sense?

Jason Bottjen
Thanks Jason, makes perfect sense! That is what I was hoping for!
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Old 10-31-2004, 04:06 PM
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What about button assignment? Can the MVP possibly be trained for a new, bigger remote with more buttons than the old one? Can the buttons at least be reassigned?
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Old 10-31-2004, 04:27 PM
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well.....i was going to wait for sage to go 2.1 final, but temptation was too great! After a 5 minute upgrade, mlbdudes' MCE stv, and this, my life is now complete!

Awesome stuff man! Thanks for this greatly needed addition.

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Old 10-31-2004, 04:42 PM
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What about button assignment? Can the MVP possibly be trained for a new, bigger remote with more buttons than the old one? Can the buttons at least be reassigned?
This would be great...this way I could have all my remote units (SageTV server, and both MediaMVPs) identicle....high WAF!
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Old 10-31-2004, 05:30 PM
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Some comments:

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Matt, please spend a few minutes to setup PayPal. Stuff like this is definitely worth donating.
Just did. I've added a Donations page to my site. Thanks for your support!

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Yea ... I would love to see some MVP snapshots too ...
And did anyone answer the LiveTV question??
You will probably not be able to tell the difference from any of the other SageTV screenshots on this site & yes, Live TV works. Changing Channels is not extremely fast, but better than nothing

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Matt-

As reported by AVICodec, here are 5 different files with different formats. To the best of my knowledge, all of these played fine. I can remember that before I upgraded my processor from an 1800 to the 2800, I did have probs. If the PC can do the transcoding, then it should work fine...
Thanks, I had lots of delays and stuttering. I'll wait a few Hauppauge releases and then I'll give it a try again.

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Couple questions though.

1. When I hit FFWD/RWD, etc and the on-screen menu pops up (show info at top, timwline on bottom) the ENTIRE screen gets dark. Is that what you meant in the readme file about the semi-transparent ODS being dark? I guess I thought it would have just been dark in the overlayed areas.
I guess so. Unfortunately, I can only set one transparency value for the whole screen. We can only hope Hauppauge extends their MVP devices software to allow per-pixels transparency (alpha) values.

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2. In a future version can we PLEASE get customizable remote control button functionality? I would love to remap a few of the Media MVP buttons to other functions. For instance I don't need a button to go straight to the guide, I do need a Custom 4 & 5 for COMSKIP use, etc. That would be wonderful.
It's there. Setup>Detailed Information>Command. I tried hard to enable as many of the SageTV features as possible

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When I change the aspect ratio to anything other than Fill the screen stays dark like the UI is always on even when the UI times out. The Fill setting is fine for the shows I record so the unit is still quite usable but I am unable to play alot of programs in my import library without them being distorted.
I'll see what I can do, but don't hold your breath.

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I have 2 MVP's up and working as clients, but I can't get the clients to change the channel in live TV. The channel will show as changed on the OSD, i.e., it will show going from channel 2 to channel 3, but channel 2 will continue to play. Has anyone else seen this problem? It might just be a problem with my client set up as I had never used the client prior to this MVP client release. Any help would be appreciated.
Can your reproduce this just with two Clients without MVP Clients? I have no clue how this could happen.

Happy MVPing!

-Matt
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Old 10-31-2004, 06:41 PM
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errr. Matt, I clicked the paypay button, but I do not speak 'swiss'? or whatever language that is .

Anyway to have the paypal site to do a language selector?

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Old 10-31-2004, 06:42 PM
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Thanks Matt. I just donated. PayPal kind of freaked me out since I couldn't read a word since it is in a language dumb old me can't read. I managed to find the Randy can read it now button and all is good.

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Old 10-31-2004, 06:51 PM
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k....after clicking enough buttons, the donation page finally switched over to english! Donation made. Thanks again for your contribution.

My first request still stands. I believe that it would behoove you to make a language selector. You might lose some impulse donations if you do not

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Old 10-31-2004, 06:54 PM
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I feel stupid now. Of course, that worked perfectly! Can you believe after over a year and a half of useing Sage I've never, ever mapped my remote buttons like that?

Always used Girder and/or the ATI Remote Wonder plugin. Cool. Learned something new.

Jason Bottjen


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It's there. Setup>Detailed Information>Command. I tried hard to enable as many of the SageTV features as possible

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Old 11-01-2004, 12:10 PM
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errr. Matt, I clicked the paypay button, but I do not speak 'swiss'? or whatever language that is .
Grrr, I feel stupid. Thought the language (it was German, BTW ) would come from the users (donators) profile, but this is only the case after logging in... Anyway, I have fixed this and the page should now be English by default.

Thanks to all that donated anyway! It's great to get something back for the countless hours that went (and will go) into this project.

Thanks again,
Matt
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Old 11-01-2004, 12:21 PM
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Very nice. I read about the new MVP client on Friday, got it installed that evening & promptly removed all the other clients & MVP software I had. The new client looks & feels almost exactly like the Sage screens on the PC.
Up till now, I was still considering hacking the Xbox. Now I'm looking forward to checking out the music, pictures & custom remote functions!!
Thanks Matt. The check's in the mail.
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Old 11-01-2004, 04:32 PM
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Problems

Hi!

Thanks SO much for the MVP client! The WAF (Wife Acceptance Factor) has gone through the roof!

I have two issues at the moment:

1. The video coming out of the MVP is overscanned, quite a bit. Looking at typical CBS show the right-half of the eyeball logo in the lower-third is cut off horizontally. I tried setting both the overscan properties (which only do the menus) and the aspect ratio properties, but it still cuts off a lot of the picture.

2. I'm having problems with Live TV and tuners not being "let go." If you go to the Live TV guide and select a show to watch, it will grab the tuner. If you simply hit menu again, go the live TV guide then select another show, it will continue recording the last show and use the second tuner to record the new one. You'll soon get the (-8) error becuase you didn't authorize a conflict resolution (!). Am I doing something wrong? Is the MVP client just more fussy?

Thanks!

Stacy
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