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Hardware Support Discussions related to using various hardware setups with SageTV products. Anything relating to capture cards, remotes, infrared receivers/transmitters, system compatibility or other hardware related problems or suggestions should be posted here. |
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FWIW, I have tried Coreavc 1.3 and the cyberlink h.264 decoder. None work in Sage for playing h.264 R5000 material. Only CoreAVC is able to play recent and original h.264 R5000 recordings using some directshow player or graphedit. While ago I tested the elecard decoder,and it worked. But, I have not tested it on recent R5000 H2.64 recordings. I have not tested non-r5000 h.264 material, as I don;t have any need to. I have submitted numerous debug logs to Sage and hope it will lead to some fixes |
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Anyone know if/where there are any R5000-HD dish HD H.264 samples available for download to test? I know nextcom has the SD samples, but how about HD?
Thanks, Sean. |
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I will leave this up for a bit...
Here is a link (save as instead of click) that "should" contain an HD H.264 sample. I grabbed this through a timed 1 minute recording, so including tune times probably 45 seconds of data. Size is about 45 MB.
http://corvettetracks.com/r500Test.mpg DQ
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Thanks for the sample DQ.
I played around with multiple different decoders and demux filters. Like others, I can get it to play with graphedit and windows media player, but not in Sage. By setting always_use_dshow_player=true, I'm able to get sage to use the Haali splitter through filter merits for playing back some files, but not the sample DQ supplied. From reading, I gather that Sage will only use it's own filters for mpeg playback. I can see why they do this for controlling the live TV buffer. I was trying to see if I could get the sample and other mpeg files to play using a graph with Intervideo's "Time Shift" filter (from WinDVD recorder), but I could not. Nero also has some filters for time shifting but I'm not sure how to set up a graph with those either. I read elsewhere in the forum that there's a registry setting to allow Sage to use other filter graphs, but I could not find the actual key and value. Does anyone know how to do that? Thanks, Sean. |
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Thank you for that explanation. I have long suspected that the difficulty playing back h.264 streams broadcast by Dish was due to something non-standard about the streams as Sage plays back the h.264 files I generate on my Mac just fine. |
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I have sent several to Sage's FTP site.
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Any updates on this?
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I'd settle for a kludge that would permit live playback from Sage with an external player using the Haali splitter and CoreAVC.
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I still have an active case with SageTV on this.
I cannot get the latest cyberlink h.264 decoder to play back the latest R5000 H.264 recordings inside or outside of SageTV. CoreAVC 1.3 will play those same R5000 recordings outside of SageTV using multiple programs. . I cannot get SageTV to use the CoreAVC decoder, even with the assistance so far of SageTV support. I am not sure what the next step is, since the CoreAVC store has been closed for over a month and gives no indication of when they will open. Without a working decoder that can play those files, I don't see how SageTV can get things working for their users. I believe there is also the Elecard AVC Plugin that can play those recent R5000 recordings, but i have not tested that myself. |
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As noted previously in this thread, I think it's the PAFF interlacing of the Dish h264 streams that causes the problems with the Cyberlink decoder. If Sage could use the Haali/CoreAVC combo or if the Cyberlink h.264 decoder could handle PAFF interlacing we might have a solution. |
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First things first: HawgGuy, where is the FTP site? Does it allow anonymous access?
OK, well I've had some success playing back the sample DualQuad Posted. They key to success was to change the demux filter. I don't know why I couldn't find this on the forums, it seems like it's a secret. Someone PM'd this to me. Maybe Sage is afraid of support issues by releasing this info. Treat this as use at your own risk. Anyway, admins if you don't want this publicly posted, then you can remove it. To change the demux filter, set the following registry key: HKLM\SOFTWARE\Frey Technologies\Common\DirectShow\CustomDemuxGuid It should be a REG_SZ (string) value in a format like this: {3AE86B20-7BE8-11D1-ABE6-00A0C905F375} The Guid (long string in curly braces) is the CLSID of the demux filter you want to use. You can find this value with DirectShow Filter Manager (DSFM). I had the most success with the "Elecard MPEG Demultiplexer" filter and the "CyberLink H.264/AVC Decoder (PDVD7.x)" decoder filter from PowerDVD 7.3 Ultra. I also have Haali Splitter and CoreAVC 1.3 installed, but they don't work well with the sample. However, I need them installed to play other media types such as .mkv files with x264 encoded content. I set the merit of the Elecard Demultiplexer higher than Haali, and the merit of CoreAVC higher than Cyberlink. The CoreAVC filter won't work with the Elecard demux, so it uses Elecard with Cyberlink. I also had success playing back with the "MainConcept AVC/H.264 Video Decoder" filter, but cpu usage was VERY high, sometimes 100%. With the Elecard demux and Cyberlink decoder, I get a little hiccup at the beggining of the sample file, but then it syncs the audio and video back up and plays very smoothly. I have no idea if this will work with live Dish H.264 because I don't have the R5000. I also don't have any other tv tuner installed. I have an old Fusion I lying around. If I have time I might try hooking that up, but I'm not sure if it's supported by Sage. In the sage config file I set the following options: always_use_dshow_player=true debug_logging=TRUE The always_use_dshow_player setting makes sage use DirectShow filters instead of the builtin player (mplayer?). The debug logging was helpful for figuring out what filter graph sage is using. When playing back the sample in sage I get the following graph in the log file: DShowGraphFilters=Default DirectSound Device,VidRend,Line21 Decoder,AC3 Decoder,CyberLink H.264/AVC Decoder (PDVD7.x),Custom Demultiplexer,D:\temp\to_burn\H264_samples\R5000\Copy of r500Test.mpeg Maybe one of you with a Dish R5000 can give this a try. Let me know if you need any more details. |
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Thanks for your detective work with the dish h.264 file. I don't have time now & the child units are monopolizing the TV, so I'll try later. |
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So which Elecard software has the filter?
DOH. Originally asked what package has the Elecard demux in it. I found the demux in the Elecard MPEG player package.
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Looking at RadLight FM I have:
Haali Matroska Muxer Haali Media Splitter Haali Media Splitter (AR) Haali Simple Media Splitter Haali Video Renderer Haali Video Sink I would guess that the second one the list is the correct one to specify in the registry, yes? Do I need to change its merit? I've already changed always_use_dshow_player= to true. Update - doesn't work. Get Sage Playback error relating to file system. Need to turn debug log on. Last edited by HawgGuy; 05-28-2007 at 09:15 AM. Reason: update |
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Hmmm...problems
So far, I have:
1) D/L and installed the Elecard MPEG player (have not yet paid, any issues there?) (demux merit is highest demux in list) 2) Bought and installed powerdvd ultra. This will playback a dvd so this seems to work 3) Modifed registry to reflect the demux choice as indicated by Redondo_se 4) Modifed sage properties file (with sage halted) to use dshow player and kick out logs 5) Restarted box for good measure 6) Verified playback with graphedit, playback through graphedit works well and there are no surprises in graph (Hits Elecard demux then to AC3 filter for sound and Cyberlink decoder for video path) Playback of recorded file (submitted above) from my recording directory results in a black screen and no sound, this is in the log file: VMR9 filter detected, using line 21 decoder 2.Mon 5/28 10:11:20.564 DShowGraphFilters=AudRend,VidRend,Line21 Decoder,CyberLink H.264/AVC Decoder (PDVD7.x),Audio Decoder,Video Decoder,Custom Demultiplexer,F:\34941_9435_0514_1932-0.mpg, Mon 5/28 10:11:20.566 VideoFrame.timeSelected2(Mon 5/14 19:32:00.009, true) currFile=MediaFile[id=3820401 FA[stationID=34941 No Data time=Mon 5/14 19:32:00.000 dur=0:01:00] host=sage-server-1 encodedBy=DISH211-244C on 127.0.0.1:6969 Great format=MPEG2-TS 0:00:45 6006 kbps [#0 Video[MPEG2-Video 90000.0 fps progressive]#1 Audio[AC3 48000 Hz 6 channels 384 kbps idx=1 id=14]] F:\34941_9435_0514_1932-0.mpg, Seg0[Mon 5/14 19:32:00.009-Mon 5/14 19:33:00.007]] realDur=43743 Mon 5/28 10:11:20.566 About to perform media time selection for 0 Mon 5/28 10:11:20.567 Exception from line: 117 Mon 5/28 10:11:20.567 Built:sage.PlaybackException: ERROR (-10,0x80004005): There was an error seeking the media player. No media player explains the black screen and no sound. What crucial piece of the playback am I missing? Thanks, DQ
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However, I could not get any filter with Haali to play DualQuad's sample correctly. The closest I could get was Haali to CoreAVC, but the picture was totally scrambled. I had much better luck with the Elecard demux and Cyberlink decoder. |
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However, version 1.0.47 build 60321 works fine in both graphedit and sage! I got that version from the "Elecard_AVC_Decoder_Pack_Demo.zip" which you can currently find here: http://www.elecard.com/ftp/pub/mpeg/h264/ One other interesting thing, version 1.0.47 build 60321 (the one that works in sage) causes the hiccup at the beginning of the file when playing in both graphedit and sage. Version 1.0.77 build 60823 does not cause a hiccup in graphedit, but like I said, won't work in sage for some reason |
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Some playback success!
Using the beta codec pack that Redondo linked to, I was able to get playback of previously recorded H.264 DISH material. Audio was correct and synchronized well.
Playback of "live" TV failed miserably. All formats of live playback failed, Mpeg and H.264. I first set the always_use_dshow back to false, playback failed. The failures continued until I removed the registry demux entry, at that point everything returned to normal. Actually, looking at the failure log output, directshow is called? Mon 5/28 19:04:41.357 VF file=MediaFile[id=3947243 A[3848534,895089,"Venom",16833@0528.19:00,90] host=sage-server-1 encodedBy=DISH211-244C on 127.0.0.1:6969 Great format=MPEG2-TS 0:00:05 2354 kbps [#0 Video[MPEG2-Video 29.97003 fps 544x480 4:3 15000 kbps progressive]#1 Audio[MP2 48000 Hz 2 channels 160 kbps idx=1 id=14]] E:\Venom-3848534-0.mpg, Seg0[Mon 5/28 19:04:25.791-Wed 12/31 18:00:00.000]] targetTime = Mon 5/28 19:04:25.791 Mon 5/28 19:04:41.357 VideoFrame.timeSelected(Mon 5/28 19:04:25.791, true) currFile=MediaFile[id=3947243 A[3848534,895089,"Venom",16833@0528.19:00,90] host=sage-server-1 encodedBy=DISH211-244C on 127.0.0.1:6969 Great format=MPEG2-TS 0:00:05 2354 kbps [#0 Video[MPEG2-Video 29.97003 fps 544x480 4:3 15000 kbps progressive]#1 Audio[MP2 48000 Hz 2 channels 160 kbps idx=1 id=14]] E:\Venom-3848534-0.mpg, Seg0[Mon 5/28 19:04:25.791-Wed 12/31 18:00:00.000]] Mon 5/28 19:04:41.415 DShowPlayer setVideoRendererFilter0({51B4ABF3-748F-4E3B-A276-C828330E926A}) called Mon 5/28 19:04:41.436 needFreeSize = 0.4941 GB currFreeSize=40.959868928 GB Mon 5/28 19:04:41.436 Seeker waiting for 20 mins. Mon 5/28 19:04:41.458 Setting up VMR9 deinterlacing Mon 5/28 19:04:41.459 Curr Mix Prefs=0x1015 Mon 5/28 19:04:41.459 Set to 0x2015, hr=0x0, New Mix Prefs=0x2015 Mon 5/28 19:04:41.459 DShowPlayer setAudioRendererFilter0(CyberLink Audio Renderer (PDVD7.x)) called Mon 5/28 19:04:41.707 DShowPlayer setVideoDecoderFilter0(NVIDIA Video Decoder) called Mon 5/28 19:04:41.854 DShowPlayer setAudioDecoderFilter0(NVIDIA Audio Decoder) called Mon 5/28 19:04:41.979 DShowPlayer setTimeshift=1 buffer=0 Mon 5/28 19:04:42.024 NATIVE Loading the source file Mon 5/28 19:04:42.025 NATIVE Setting up the MPEG demux Mon 5/28 19:04:42.025 Creating custom demux filter {136DCBF5-3874-4B70-AE3E-15997D6334F7} Mon 5/28 19:04:42.121 Using custom demux Mon 5/28 19:04:42.721 AWTThread Hang Detected - hang time = 750 ... image stuff for revolving circle I suppose (deleted) Mon 5/28 19:04:44.972 AWTThread Hang Detected - hang time = 3000 (then hang detected forever) So does Sage use two different players for live playback and recorded? Perhaps there are some switches to direct the live player to the correct filters? Does this indicate that the nvidia filter chain doesnt work with this demux? DQ
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Here's what I get when I set Haali Media Splitter AR in the registry and try to watch FOODHD network:
Mon 5/28 18:43:00.578 VF processing job VFJob[LoadMF r=0.0 t=0 file=MediaFile[id=3477623 A[3275462,3275051,"Challenge",50747@0528.18:00,60] host=pvr2 encodedBy=Dish-vip211-HD on 127.0.0.1:6969 Great format=MPEG2-PS 0:00:00 0 kbps [] D:\SageTV\Challenge-MysteryCake-3275462-0.mpg, Seg0[Mon 5/28 18:42:53.655-Wed 12/31 18:00:00.000]] ifn=null] nPlayin=false Mon 5/28 18:43:00.579 VF network encoder playback detected: true Mon 5/28 18:43:00.579 Doing pre-emptive file format detection on recording MediaFile....D:\SageTV\Challenge-MysteryCake-3275462-0.mpg Mon 5/28 18:43:00.635 File Format Parsed D:\SageTV\Challenge-MysteryCake-3275462-0.mpg=MPEG2-TS 0:00:02 5975 kbps [#0 Video[H.264 59.94 fps progressive]#1 Audio[AC3 48000 Hz 6 channels 384 kbps idx=1 id=14]] Mon 5/28 18:43:00.636 VF processing on UI Thread VFJob[LoadMF r=0.0 t=0 file=MediaFile[id=3477623 A[3275462,3275051,"Challenge",50747@0528.18:00,60] host=pvr2 encodedBy=Dish-vip211-HD on 127.0.0.1:6969 Great format=MPEG2-TS 0:00:02 5975 kbps [#0 Video[H.264 59.94 fps progressive]#1 Audio[AC3 48000 Hz 6 channels 384 kbps idx=1 id=14]] D:\SageTV\Challenge-MysteryCake-3275462-0.mpg, Seg0[Mon 5/28 18:42:53.655-Wed 12/31 18:00:00.000]] ifn=null] Mon 5/28 18:43:00.636 VF file=MediaFile[id=3477623 A[3275462,3275051,"Challenge",50747@0528.18:00,60] host=pvr2 encodedBy=Dish-vip211-HD on 127.0.0.1:6969 Great format=MPEG2-TS 0:00:02 5975 kbps [#0 Video[H.264 59.94 fps progressive]#1 Audio[AC3 48000 Hz 6 channels 384 kbps idx=1 id=14]] D:\SageTV\Challenge-MysteryCake-3275462-0.mpg, Seg0[Mon 5/28 18:42:53.655-Wed 12/31 18:00:00.000]] targetTime = Mon 5/28 18:42:53.655 Mon 5/28 18:43:00.637 VideoFrame.timeSelected(Mon 5/28 18:42:53.655, true) currFile=MediaFile[id=3477623 A[3275462,3275051,"Challenge",50747@0528.18:00,60] host=pvr2 encodedBy=Dish-vip211-HD on 127.0.0.1:6969 Great format=MPEG2-TS 0:00:02 5975 kbps [#0 Video[H.264 59.94 fps progressive]#1 Audio[AC3 48000 Hz 6 channels 384 kbps idx=1 id=14]] D:\SageTV\Challenge-MysteryCake-3275462-0.mpg, Seg0[Mon 5/28 18:42:53.655-Wed 12/31 18:00:00.000]] Mon 5/28 18:43:00.638 DShowPlayer setVideoRendererFilter0({51B4ABF3-748F-4E3B-A276-C828330E926A}) called Mon 5/28 18:43:00.741 Setting up VMR9 deinterlacing Mon 5/28 18:43:00.742 Curr Mix Prefs=0x1015 Mon 5/28 18:43:00.742 Set to 0x2015, hr=0x0, New Mix Prefs=0x2015 Mon 5/28 18:43:00.742 DShowPlayer setVideoDecoderFilter0(CyberLink H.264/AVC Decoder (HD264)) called Mon 5/28 18:43:00.809 DShowPlayer setAudioDecoderFilter0(MPEG Audio Decoder) called Mon 5/28 18:43:00.818 DShowPlayer setTimeshift=1 buffer=0 Mon 5/28 18:43:00.819 NATIVE Loading the source file Mon 5/28 18:43:00.819 NATIVE Setting up the MPEG demux Mon 5/28 18:43:00.819 Creating custom demux filter {564FD788-86C9-4444-971E-CC4A243DA150} Mon 5/28 18:43:00.824 Using custom demux Mon 5/28 18:43:01.933 Removing thumbnail file C:\Program Files\SageTV\SageTV\GeneratedThumbnails\DSageTVTennis2006TheChampionshipsatthePalisades31792690mpg.jpg because its source file is gone Mon 5/28 18:43:01.934 Seeker has finished the library import scan. Mon 5/28 18:43:02.128 EventThread-SAGETV_PROCESS_LOCAL_UI Hang Detected - hang time = 750 Mon 5/28 18:43:03.295 Creating DirectX9 Texture from nio buffer w=37 h=37 Mon 5/28 18:43:03.628 EventThread-SAGETV_PROCESS_LOCAL_UI Hang Detected - hang time = 2250 Mon 5/28 18:43:03.813 Creating DirectX9 Texture from nio buffer w=37 h=37 Mon 5/28 18:43:04.377 EventThread-SAGETV_PROCESS_LOCAL_UI Hang Detected - hang time = 2999 Mon 5/28 18:43:05.127 EventThread-SAGETV_PROCESS_LOCAL_UI Hang Detected - hang time = 3749 Mon 5/28 18:43:05.877 EventThread-SAGETV_PROCESS_LOCAL_UI Hang Detected - hang time = 4499 Mon 5/28 18:43:06.627 EventThread-SAGETV_PROCESS_LOCAL_UI Hang Detected - hang time = 5249 Mon 5/28 18:43:07.377 EventThread-SAGETV_PROCESS_LOCAL_UI Hang Detected - hang time = 5999 Mon 5/28 18:43:08.127 EventThread-SAGETV_PROCESS_LOCAL_UI Hang Detected - hang time = 6749 Mon 5/28 18:43:08.877 EventThread-SAGETV_PROCESS_LOCAL_UI Hang Detected - hang time = 7499 Mon 5/28 18:43:09.627 EventThread-SAGETV_PROCESS_LOCAL_UI Hang Detected - hang time = 8248 Mon 5/28 18:43:10.376 EventThread-SAGETV_PROCESS_LOCAL_UI Hang Detected - hang time = 8998 Mon 5/28 18:43:11.126 EventThread-SAGETV_PROCESS_LOCAL_UI Hang Detected - hang time = 9748 Mon 5/28 18:43:11.347 Exception from line: 574 Mon 5/28 18:43:11.347 Built:sage.PlaybackException: ERROR (-3,0x80040207): There was a problem accessing the filesystem for playback. Mon 5/28 18:43:11.348 sage.PlaybackException: ERROR (-3,0x80040207): There was a problem accessing the filesystem for playback. Mon 5/28 18:43:11.348 at sage.DShowMediaPlayer.setupGraph0(Native Method) Mon 5/28 18:43:11.348 at sage.DShowTVPlayer.load(Unknown Source) Mon 5/28 18:43:11.348 at sage.VideoFrame.a(Unknown Source) Mon 5/28 18:43:11.348 at sage.VideoFrame.a(Unknown Source) Mon 5/28 18:43:11.348 at sage.VideoFrame.access$100(Unknown Source) Mon 5/28 18:43:11.348 at sage.VideoFrame$4.run(Unknown Source) Mon 5/28 18:43:11.348 at java.awt.event.InvocationEvent.dispatch(Unknown Source) Mon 5/28 18:43:11.348 at java.awt.EventQueue.dispatchEvent(Unknown Source) Mon 5/28 18:43:11.348 at java.awt.EventDispatchThread.pumpOneEventForFilters(Unknown Source) Mon 5/28 18:43:11.348 at java.awt.EventDispatchThread.pumpEventsForFilter(Unknown Source) Mon 5/28 18:43:11.349 at java.awt.EventDispatchThread.pumpEventsForHierarchy(Unknown Source) Mon 5/28 18:43:11.349 at java.awt.EventDispatchThread.pumpEvents(Unknown Source) Mon 5/28 18:43:11.349 at java.awt.EventDispatchThread.pumpEvents(Unknown Source) Mon 5/28 18:43:11.349 at java.awt.EventDispatchThread.run(Unknown Source) Mon 5/28 18:43:11.349 VideFrame had an error loading the file. It must abort the file load. Mon 5/28 18:43:11.349 Tearing down playback graph Mon 5/28 18:43:11.349 NATIVE Deallocating the CPlayerData object Mon 5/28 18:43:11.350 NATIVE Finished destroying the playback graph |
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Bummer that live playback doesn't work Interesting that it's trying to use the Cyberlink audio renderer rather than the default directshow audio renderer. EDIT: Didn't even take notice of the fact that it's trying to use NVIDIA decoder. I didn't have any success trying to get NVIDIA filters to decode the sample you posted. There's these two settings in the .properties file: videoframe/dvd_audio_decoder_filter= videoframe/dvd_audio_render_filter= Do you have those set to NVIDIA? Oh yeah, and these also: videoframe/audio_decoder_filter= videoframe/video_decoder_filter= Last edited by redondo_se; 05-28-2007 at 08:00 PM. |
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