force update of epg data?

[frumbert]

I'd like for force Sage to update my EPG data. The information entitled "Can I force the Guide to be updated any sooner?" I found on this thread does not work for me.

- I'm using Sage 6.0.13.1.
- I use SageTV XMLTV Importer version 1.0 as my xmltv grabber.
- I don't know what I'm doing with config files or how the program stores data, so you need to really spell things out in clear language.

Is there a plug in or something that I can use that just forces a re-load of my xmltv guide data?

[nielm]

It normally does work - check Setup/Help/System Information/Last EPG update/next EPG update -- if next ==0 then the update is still running...

Your second question is answered in the FAQ link you posted.

[frumbert]

err - do you mean the web server plug in? can I operate that with my remote? or did you mean something else?

and next does = 0 - but it has been saying that for hours now. How long does an update take? what is an update anyway?

[nielm]

If next has been saying 0 for some time (and you do not have an infinite number of channels )then the import has probably failed... Check the sage logging (see the faq on how to enable), and/or the importer logging -- it may be that your XMLTV data has problems..

An Update from Sage's point of view is asking the EPG importer for the updated data. What happens then is up to the importer.

In my case (I do not use the importer that you do) the importer plugin reads the XMLTV file on disk and adds the contents to Sage's DB. I believe that the one you use can also fire off XMLTV itself to grab the updated data first...

[frumbert]

My importer can (and does) do a download from the source before getting sage to do an update. I can open up the xml file it downloads which opens in the browser, and I see that it lists tv shows and times and other stuff, and looks like it has about a weeks worth of listings in it. it runs through a system of importing line ups into sage. the files in the 3rdpartyguidedata folder get updated - I can delete them and my importer will recreate them. but then there's nothing I can do in sage (fiddling with channels, restarting the system, changing lineups, disabling and then reenabling cards) which triggers an internal update or whatever it is that means the built in tv guide shows data. worked for months, and then it stopped. I can't think of anything that has changed - it just stopped.

[nielm]

there is probably a problem in the xml file, perhaps a badly encoded character... Check the logs..

[frumbert]

here's the logs that were created after I enabled logging and ran through an attempted forced update of the epg.

I don't know what I am supposed to be looking for in it. It all looks like gobbldegook to me.

[nielm]

Tue 3/27 8:36:41.659 Error loading EPG Import Plugin of:java.lang.ClassNotFoundException: xmltv.XMLTVImportPlugin
...later...
Tue 3/27 8:38:01.617 EPG attempting to expand XMLTV Lineup
...
Tue 3/27 8:38:03.600 Error updating with EPG Plugin:java.lang.NullPointerException

For some reason, you do not have an XMLTV plugin installed -- try reinstalling it.

[frumbert]

well how could that happen? I deleted the previous Sage install (was using 5) and set up version 6 a few weeks ago. The EPG seemed to be working properly - but it does have a week or two's worth of guide data, so it may have fallen over long ago. I haven't installed any other plugins, but I do run a custom skin (iSkin) - that's the only customisation I've made.

How do I install the xmltv plugin? Doesn't that just come built in?

[nielm]

When you deleted your V5 install, you probably also deleted your XMLTV plugin (which you must have installed yourself at one point -- it is not built-in).

To reinstall it ... follow the link in your first post

(Ps you don't need to delete a previous install to upgrade).

[Ansy_74]

Hi
I had the exactly same problem as frumbert.
But after the tip from nielm, I reinstalled XMLTV Importer (not the plugin) with the latest version and configured (2.2) it to use the web-plugin.
It seams to work now.
Lets see after 24h if it updates automaticly.

Thanks

/Ansy

[StephaneM]

Originally Posted by frumbert

How do I install the xmltv plugin? Doesn't that just come built in?

As I see you are using my XMLTV Importer, just download the latest version (the 1.0 is not compatible with SageTV version 6), shutdow SageTV, uninstall the XMLTV Importer and install the new version, restart SageTV and do the Import and force the EPG update (either by disabling / enabling a channel in your lineup directly in SageTV or by using Nielm's Web Server plugin. Note : the XMLTV Importer can now use the Web Server to force the EPG update during automated XMLTV Import).

This will recreate what's may be missing in SageTV :

* copy the java classes
* edit the sage.properties file

Regards,
Stéphane.

[frumbert]

Hi Stéphane,

This has done the trick! Your program is great, by the way!

Incedentally, in the program set up I tried to point the Grabber Executable at webget.exe and put in the parameters, but got an error (I think it was "Unable to save file"). So I pointed at a batch file which does exactly the same command line options and it works. Is this a problem with the app, or is it a webget thing do you think? It's not a big issue since the batch file method works for me.

Thanks for your assistance both Stéphane and neilm.

-- Tim

[StephaneM]

Originally Posted by frumbert

I tried to point the Grabber Executable at webget.exe and put in the parameters, but got an error (I think it was "Unable to save file"). So I pointed at a batch file which does exactly the same command line options and it works. Is this a problem with the app, or is it a webget thing do you think?

I don't know, I will issue an updated version of the Importer and will check if there is anything wrong with the grabber launch. But it your batch file is working don't change anything

Regards,
Stéphane.

[jbromwich]

Originally Posted by nielm

Tue 3/27 8:36:41.659 Error loading EPG Import Plugin of:java.lang.ClassNotFoundException: xmltv.XMLTVImportPlugin
...later...
Tue 3/27 8:38:01.617 EPG attempting to expand XMLTV Lineup
...
Tue 3/27 8:38:03.600 Error updating with EPG Plugin:java.lang.NullPointerException

For some reason, you do not have an XMLTV plugin installed -- try reinstalling it.

I had the same problem, a NullPointerException. (Seen in Sagetv_0.txt when debug_logging=TRUE in Sage.properties)

The reason the problem happened was probably that the JRE on your machine automatically updated from say jre1.5.0_06 to jre1.5.0_11. The jars were in the jre1.5.0_06\lib\ext directory, but they don't get moved to the new jre1.5.0_11\lib\ext location after an automatic java upgrade.

For me, simply copying the 3 jars over to the new JRE directory did the trick. No re-installing or removing of video sources necessary.

ie. Unzip jars.zip (that comes with Zap2It) or copy the 3 jars from your old JRE directory into the lib\ext directory of your new Java JRE install e.g. C:\Program Files\Java\jre1.5.0_11\lib\ext

("jars.zip" can be found here: http://www.digicasa.com/prod_sagetv_plugin.htm)


Cheers,
Julian.