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OK, first post! I've been lurking the forums and learning all I can... But still have some questions while I wait for Sage to restock the HD Extenders...
![]() I'm almost done with my 21-day trial and I'm loving it. After tinkering with Vista an XP MediaCenter for 3 years, Sage surpassed them in 4 weeks! So... It seems obvious (after weeks of fumbling) that SageMC is the way to go. Lots of plug-ins, better WAF, etc. 1) Why isn't the default interface more like that one? You'd think they'd use the ideas, pay the fans who developed it, or something. 2) Why doesn't everyone use it? I'd imagine that would be the first thing most would do... Am I missing something? Am I losing something critical (besides a full, very well written manual that comes with the OOTB solution)? Just seems you get a lot for just a little more effort and that these things would be rolled into the core product (well maybe not commskip and such... ![]() I'm testing on a PC with a PCI tuner, but: Planning to roll out on a heavily modified HP MediaSmart home-server (model 475, 2GB RAM and a 2.6 GHZ processor) with two "stick" style digital tuners from hauppauge (HVR-950Q) in a USB2 hub, the HD-extender, old MCE remote (actually Logitec harmony with MCE profile), and only OTA ATSC signals (no cable or sat). My pioneer receiver will do the audio from the extender, and DVDs will be ripped or played from a DVD player (not Sage. An external eSATA DVD or Bluray may come later - as may the Wii Remote interface I'm tinkering with). 3) Am I missing anything? Suggestions before I plunge? ![]() Probably shouldn't lump these in he same thread, but I will... Any help would be appreciated. Thanks -Mike |
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2. I suspect most people do? Maybe someone did a poll sometime on the forum, haven't checked 3. Nope, as you have done mess with the trial and make sure it does what you want |
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Personally, I'd rather that the Sage stv/plugin model was a little more "plugin" friendly, like the FireFox and Eclipse RCP plugin model, AND that they used a better MVC pattern so that the "View" was truly a view, and in being so, there could have been a lot more code reuse between SageMC and the default STV. Today, many plugins are SageMC specific, and it's shame that plugins couldn't have been more reuable between different STVs. I realize that Some plugins, that don't make ui contributions are compatible across different STVs, but most are STV specific.
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![]() Discussion on any forums is always skewed as the contributors are generally only a small subset of the install base. John |
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I just don't like the Windows/Vista media centre interface. I never have done, from the first time I saw it. Yes its flash, but I prefer a good old fasioned menu system. Why wait for the whole screen to scroll round when all you want to do is move down one line on a menu! I spend most of the time watching TV, not looking at the menu interface ![]() |
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I find the original SageTV interface to be almost unsable; the way that it's organized just does not work with my brain.
Not really the main menu, but the sub menus, like how the different options are laid out in the Recorded TV screen. Also, I find the icons that they chose to be difficult to map to their actions. Also, the "settings" menus are horribly organized, and unfortunately, SageMC doesn't help us evade them. I agree that if SageMC didn't exist, I would not have bought a license. Also, it might depend on whether people are using extenders. My feeling is that SageMC is much more extender-friendly than the original interface. Todd |
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Ditto.
Original SageTV interface = unusable SageMC = Awesomeness x 7. Main reason I bought Sage. I love how you can change the rows and columns and font size of the Guide. Very cool. No other media center can touch Sage at the moment. Keep in mind though, You can't play a CD from SageMC. A user made plugin enables it in original Sage though. Stupid ? Yes. As my friend says when he came round to show his new CD to me: "So you paid thousands for a computer and all this software, and it doesn't play a CD ?" |
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Also, nothing stops you from installing plugins into the stock STV and switching to that when you want to do things that SageMC doesn't support natively. So in fact your Sage system can play a CD if you take the trouble to set it up for that. Not the same as out-of-the-box support, I agree, but to say it can't do it at all is a bit of an exaggeration. All of that said, I'm not a SageMC user myself. I'm not wild about the stock STV either, but I don't consider it unusable, just unappealing. Most of the time I use a custom STV I created myself, but I revert to stock for some things like setup and the music browser. As to why the stock STV isn't more like SageMC, what would be the point of that? Choice is good, right? Given that SageMC exists, it would seem like a waste of effort for the Sage devs to imitate it instead of doing something different that might appeal to people who don't find SageMC compelling.
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Thank you for the replies! its interesting to see that many people who know about both interfaces choose the stay ootb. Nothing wrong with that, but it does remind me that self != world.
![]() Going ahead with my project and will use SageMC! After that's done I will be a paid user and entitled to whine about lack of windows mobile support on placeshifter! ![]() Thanks again! -Mike |
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Why doesn't SageTV embrace SageMC and other great modifications?
If SageMC is great (and it looks great, I just haven't been able to get it working yet) and so much better than the standard system, why doesn't SageTV embrace it and offer it as the standard system? Volunteers have spent countless hours making this thing spin like a top -- all SageTV has to do is get their permission to use it, beta test it, and make life SO MUCH EASIER on the rest of us, saving us countless hours and headaches!
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