DVB Enhancer for SageTV

[mpogr]

Adding DVB-C/T is not difficult at all, but I have other things in higher priority before that (e.g. manual trasnponder configuration), and I'm also quite busy these days.
Hope other people will join me in developing this app one day...

[John@TunerUK]

Hi all

I'm trying to get this working on 2 systems. My own uses a technotrend card, but the one I'm trying to configure for a friend uses Digital everywhere FloppyDTV's. 3 of them in fact, but I'm currently trying just one to simplify things.
I can get the card to work with unencrypted channels directly through sage, but obviously he also wants to view paid for encrypted channels. I have a smartbee card reader, which I haven't yet plugged in.
I've downloaded version 236 of dvbe4sage
I've then started "dvbe4sagesvc.exe" which I presume is the core of the system
then "dvbe4sage.exe" the UI

The log on the UI is as follows

2010-02-18 11:21:47.031 DVBE4SAGE Encoder SVN revision 236
2010-02-18 11:21:47.031 Loading configuration info from "C:\Documents and Settings\Sage TV\Desktop\dvbe4sage-svn236\dvbe4sage.ini"
=========================================================
Configuration file dump:

[General]
LogLevel=2
NumberOfVirtualTuners=3

[Plugins]
DCWTimeout=5
IsVGCam=0
MaxNumberOfResets=1
ServedCAIDs=
ServedPROVIds=

[Tuning]
LNBSW=11700000
LNBLOF1=9750000
LNBLOF2=10600000
InitialFrequency=10842000
InitialSymbolRate=27500
InitialPolarization=V
InitialModulation=QPSK (DVB-S)
InitialFEC=3/4
DVBS2Tuners=
TSPacketsPerBuffer=1024
NumberOfBuffers=400
TuningTimeout=20
TuningLockTimeout=5
InitialRunningTime=20
UseSidForTuning=0
UseNewTuningMethod=0
ScanAllTransponders=0
ExcludeTuners=
ExcludeTunersMAC=
IncludeTuners=
IncludeTunersMAC=

[Output]
TSPacketsPerOutputBuffer=160000
TSPacketsOutputThreshold=135
DisableWriteBuffering=0

[Encoder]
ListeningPort=6969

[Recording]
PreferredAudioLanguage=eng
PreferredAudioFormat=ac3
PreferredSubtitlesLanguage=eng

[Advanced]
PMTDilutionFactor=1
PATDilutionFactor=1
PMTThreshold=20
PSIMaturityTime=10
MaxECMCacheSize=3000
EnableECMCache=1
ECMCacheAutodeleteChunkSize=300
BouquetName=BSkyB Bouquet 1 - DTH England
PreferSDOverHD=0

End of configuration file dump
=========================================================
2010-02-18 11:21:47.031 Working with MDAPI plugins
2010-02-18 11:21:47.062 #1: Loading filter "FireDTV BDA Tuner DVBS2" - succeeded!
2010-02-18 11:21:47.062 #1: Tuner Filter Info = "FireDTV BDA Tuner DVBS2"
2010-02-18 11:21:47.078 #1: Loading filter "FireDTV BDA Receiver DVBS2" - succeeded!
2010-02-18 11:21:47.078 #1: Loaded our transport stream filter
2010-02-18 11:21:47.078 #1: Added demux filter to the graph
2010-02-18 11:21:47.078 #1: Connected demux to our filter output pin
2010-02-18 11:21:47.093 #1: Loading filter "BDA MPEG2 Transport Information Filter" - succeeded!
2010-02-18 11:21:47.093 #1: Using tuning request-based tuning method...
2010-02-18 11:21:47.843 #1: Starting initial run for autodiscovery, transponder data: Frequency=10842000, Symbol Rate=27500, Polarization=V, Modulation=QPSK (DVB-S), FEC=3/4
2010-02-18 11:22:07.843 #1: The initial run for autodiscovery finished
2010-02-18 11:22:07.875 #1: The tuner failed to acquire the signal
2010-02-18 11:22:07.890 #1: Graph successfully stopped
2010-02-18 12:03:18.108 Encoder stopped!

I presume all is not well? But where do I start?

If it helps, the digital everywhere support tool generates this info.

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Digital Everywhere Support Report: v1.3 (3162-0)
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Generated on (Y/M/d): 2010.02.18

FireDTV / FloppyDTV devices:
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
devices found: 1

Status for device 1
Model : FloppyDTV S2
GUID : 0x0012872404002C3E
HW Ver.: 01.24.04
FW Ver.: 1.5.2 Build 30740
Driver : 5.0 (6201-3000)

Frontend Status:
Antenna: 0.00V

Sig.Str.: 97%, BER: 0
Signal found : NO

No CAM Module inserted

Windows System Information:
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
OS Path: C:\WINDOWS

OS Version:
Microsoft Windows XP, Service Pack 3 (Build: 2600)

OHCI Controller:
Manufacturer: IEEE 1394 OHCI Compliant Host Controller Vendor
Description: OHCI Compliant IEEE 1394 Host Controller

FireDTV Tools:
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Remote Control
Path: C:\Program Files\FireDTV\Tools\RemoteControl.exe
Product Ver: 1.9.1.0
File Ver: 1.9.1.0

[mpogr]

Hi John,

There are quite a lot of things you need to do in order to make it work. Please, send me your email via PM and I'll send you all the instructions.

Best regards,

Michael.

[mpogr]

Originally Posted by Fuzzy

No, and probably never will. There is no hardware that can access Dish aside from Dish Network STBs.

There is already one user on BEV Canada who succeeded to make DVBE4SAGE work for SD channels. He doesn't have any HD-capable hardware.
An additional user is trying it now with Genpix Skywalker.

[John@TunerUK]

PM Sent

[John@TunerUK]

I've actually found some basic instrictions on a cache'd version of damianflynn's website. It mentions a configuration file called "dvb4sage.ini"
I've downloaded 2 versions of the software (236 & 231), but neither of these have this file. The only files in my folder are:-

dvbe4sage.exe
dvbe4sagesvc.exe
ecmcache.xsd
encoder.dll

There are a few .txt files too, but they all seem to be logs.
Do I have to create this file, or do these versions not require it?
I'm sure I'm just missing something really simple

Cheers

John

[mpogr]

John,

I sent you an email with installation instructions. Please, let me know if you received it and how you're progressing.

Thanks,

Michael.

[John@TunerUK]

Hi Michael.
I have the instructions, but my post above still stands. The unzipped folder has no "ini" file. Is it something I need to create, or have I just downloaded the wrong version?
I'll search this thread again for another version now, but I've done this before with no joy.


EDIT: I found a link on BJKILLER's sig which seems to have all the required files. Do I just copy the files from the newer versions with the same name over to this folder to update to the latest version? I'm going to work through your instructions using the older version, but it would be nice to know how to try version 236.

Ta

John

[mpogr]

John,

You do need to create the INI file. Please, use the document I sent you to determine the correct values. The most important ones are those responsible for the initial tuning and you have to put these according to your provider, Sky UK. The guide has very good description on how to determine these.

Thanks,

Michael.

[John@TunerUK]

OK, we're getting somewhere now.
I've managed to find all of the channels, here's a section of that log as an example

2010-02-25 13:47:10.004 #1: Mapped SID=53598, ONID=2, TSID=2316, Channel=911, Name="Elite", Type=1, Running Status=4
2010-02-25 13:47:10.004 #1: Mapped SID=5003, ONID=2, TSID=2401, Channel=530, Name="History +1 hour", Type=1, Running Status=4
2010-02-25 13:47:10.004 #1: Mapped SID=8085, ONID=2, TSID=2401, Channel=2000, Name="Sky Active", Type=130, Running Status=4
2010-02-25 13:47:10.004 #1: Mapped SID=54053, ONID=2, TSID=2402, Channel=827, Name="ATN Bangla UK", Type=1, Running Status=4
2010-02-25 13:47:10.004 #1: Mapped SID=54054, ONID=2, TSID=2402, Channel=826, Name="IQRA TV", Type=1, Running Status=4
2010-02-25 13:47:10.004 #1: Mapped SID=54062, ONID=2, TSID=2402, Channel=814, Name="Channel 'S'", Type=1, Running Status=4
2010-02-25 13:47:10.004 #1: Mapped SID=54063, ONID=2, TSID=2402, Channel=820, Name="Peace TV", Type=1, Running Status=4
2010-02-25 13:47:10.004 #1: Mapped SID=54064, ONID=2, TSID=2402, Channel=841, Name="Peace TV Urdu", Type=1, Running Status=4
2010-02-25 13:47:10.004 #1: Mapped SID=54066, ONID=2, TSID=2402, Channel=433, Name="MSK", Type=1, Running Status=1
2010-02-25 13:47:10.004 #1: Mapped SID=54067, ONID=2, TSID=2402, Channel=437, Name="MSK Extra", Type=1, Running Status=1
2010-02-25 13:47:10.004 #1: Mapped SID=54069, ONID=2, TSID=2402, Channel=3210, Name="Newstalk", Type=2, Running Status=4
2010-02-25 13:47:10.004 #1: Mapped SID=9303, ONID=2, TSID=2403, Channel=881, Name="Pub Channel", Type=1, Running Status=4
2010-02-25 13:47:10.191 #1: Found in Bouquet="BSkyB Bouquet 1 - DTH England"
2010-02-25 13:47:10.191 #1: Mapped SID=50300, ONID=2, TSID=2404, Channel=655, Name="Thomas Cook", Type=1, Running Status=4
2010-02-25 13:47:10.191 #1: Mapped SID=50310, ONID=2, TSID=2404, Channel=876, Name="GayDateTV", Type=1, Running Status=4
2010-02-25 13:47:10.191 #1: Mapped SID=50315, ONID=2, TSID=2404, Channel=203, Name="Channel M", Type=1, Running Status=4
2010-02-25 13:47:10.191 #1: Mapped SID=50350, ONID=2, TSID=2404, Channel=419, Name="Extreme Sports", Type=1, Running Status=4
2010-02-25 13:47:10.191 #1: Mapped SID=50360, ONID=2, TSID=2404, Channel=912, Name="Tease Me", Type=1, Running Status=4
2010-02-25 13:47:10.566 #1: Found in Bouquet="BSkyB Bouquet 1 - DTH England"
2010-02-25 13:47:10.566 #1: Mapped SID=55355, ONID=2, TSID=2614, Channel=452, Name="Rush HD", Type=134, Running Status=4
2010-02-25 13:47:31.832 #1: The initial run for autodiscovery finished
2010-02-25 13:47:31.863 #1: Signal locked, quality=93, strength=93
2010-02-25 13:47:31.879 #1: Graph successfully stopped

Obviously this isn't all of them, but it should give an idea of what I'm getting.

I then tried a 60 second recording using dvbe4sage.

I ticked "use SID", and chose some free to view channels. BBC1 (6301) and CBBC (6421) I think

I then got this log

2010-02-25 13:48:03.582 A short SID specified, assuming default ONID=32
2010-02-25 13:48:03.582 Service SID=6301 on ONID=32 has Name=""
2010-02-25 13:48:03.582 Autodiscovery requested, but cannot find the transponder for SID=6301 on ONID=32 (""), no recording done!
2010-02-25 13:49:19.301 A short SID specified, assuming default ONID=32
2010-02-25 13:49:19.301 Service SID=6421 on ONID=32 has Name=""
2010-02-25 13:49:19.301 Autodiscovery requested, but cannot find the transponder for SID=6421 on ONID=32 (""), no recording done!

Now it seems to be presuming that I want it to try ONID=32, whereas all of the sky uk channels seem to be on ONID=2.

Presuming this is the problem, how do I alter this? I can't seem to find the setting anywhere.

[John@TunerUK]

OK, since we don't seem to be online at similar times, I've made a list of the things I'm unsure about. If you could have a read and point me in the right direction I'd really appreciate it.

1) The ONID=32 issue when testing the setup in dvbe4sage's "Operations" listed above

2) When configuring the virtual tuners in sage.properties, where my tuner is actually inside the sagetv server, do I just add the port number
e.g.
mmc/encoders/1111/encoder_host=6969

or do I have to add the IP address that's in your instructions
e.g.
mmc/encoders/1111/encoder_host=127.0.0.1\:6969

or do I have to find the IP address of my machine and add that?

3)I notice in your instructions you've used a different port for the second virtual tuner (6970). Is this required? And if so, what ports would I need for 3 tuners?

4)The tuner I'm attempting to use for dvbe4sage is currently added as a tuner in sage. Do I have to remove this first for everything to work?

That's all I can think of at the moment. I'll carry on and add any questions I come across along the way.

EDIT: Update
I can now see the virtual tuner in sagetv. I simply copied and pasted a section from a howto on the web.
I'm still not getting any actual video though. When trying to view sky news in sage (Which should be free to view) I'm getting the following message.

2010-02-25 16:42:35.538 Received command: "GET_FILE_SIZE \\SAGE-SERVER\SageTV Recordings\SageTVDVBS2Enhancer1on1270016969DigitalTVTuner-0.mpgbuf"
2010-02-25 16:42:35.538 Received command: "GET_FILE_SIZE \\SAGE-SERVER\SageTV Recordings\SageTVDVBS2Enhancer1on1270016969DigitalTVTuner-0.mpgbuf"
2010-02-25 16:42:35.741 Received command: "GET_FILE_SIZE \\SAGE-SERVER\SageTV Recordings\SageTVDVBS2Enhancer1on1270016969DigitalTVTuner-0.mpgbuf"
2010-02-25 16:42:35.741 Received command: "GET_FILE_SIZE \\SAGE-SERVER\SageTV Recordings\SageTVDVBS2Enhancer1on1270016969DigitalTVTuner-0.mpgbuf"
2010-02-25 16:42:35.960 Received command: "NOOP"
2010-02-25 16:42:35.960 Received command: "NOOP"
2010-02-25 16:42:35.960 Received command: "STOP SageTV DVB-S2 Enhancer 1 Digital TV Tuner"
2010-02-25 16:42:35.960 Requested by Sage, there is no recorder to stop!
2010-02-25 16:42:35.991 Received command: "NOOP"
2010-02-25 16:42:36.241 Received command: "NOOP"
2010-02-25 16:42:36.241 Received command: "NOOP"

[harco]

Originally Posted by mpogr

There is already one user on BEV Canada who succeeded to make DVBE4SAGE work for SD channels. He doesn't have any HD-capable hardware.
An additional user is trying it now with Genpix Skywalker.

mpogr,

would you have a driver for the skywalker? I'd like to give that a try.

Thanks

[mpogr]

Originally Posted by harco

mpogr,

would you have a driver for the skywalker? I'd like to give that a try.

Thanks

I don't have such a driver. Please, search the net.

[John@TunerUK]

I'm now getting somewhere. Hopefully this little explination will help future readers.

I was trying to use SID to tune, and yet another read through this thread highlighted that I don't need to do that with SKY UK, so I tried using the channel number that's generated in the dvbe4sage logs when it initially boots up, and voilla, I made my first recording.

I then got playing with sagetv, and after about an hour of fiddling, I found that if I use an existing satelite lineup generated by stephane's xmltv importer for sage, and simply remap the physical channel in sage>Setup>Setup video sources>chosen tuner>Channel setup, to the one found in the dvbe4sage logs, sage could then play that channel. Now all I need to do is get my smartcard reader working, and utilise service mode for dvbe4sage.

My smartcard is a smartbee 3,579 Mhz by Duolabs. Is there something I need to alter to get this working? Perhaps a plugin, or an alteration in the ini file?

[zzmystique]

Originally Posted by John@TunerUK

My smartcard is a smartbee 3,579 Mhz by Duolabs. Is there something I need to alter to get this working? Perhaps a plugin, or an alteration in the ini file?

With my setup I can only watch channels decrypted with the card and card reader on extenders (HD100 or MVP) or with placeshifter on another pc. Just thought I would pass that on incase you have issues.

Cheers
A

[mpogr]

Originally Posted by zzmystique

With my setup I can only watch channels decrypted with the card and card reader on extenders (HD100 or MVP) or with placeshifter on another pc. Just thought I would pass that on incase you have issues.

Cheers
A

Anne,

I see no logical reason for such a problem. Something must be wrong with your server setup. It has nothing to do with the fact it has the cardreader attached to it or with the type of the reader.

Best regards,

Michael.

[John@TunerUK]

Hi guys and gals. I'm really close to getting this 100% functional, so a huge thanks to Daniel, Gary and Michael for your help so far.
My only obstacle left is hopefully something trivial. I can make recordings of the sky HD channels using dvbe4sage's own 60 second record feature, but when I try to watch those in sage, I just get a no signal message. I've only tried a few encrypted channels to date, but so far 100% of the SD one's have worked, but their HD equivalents can only be viewed directly through the test recording feature.
Is this something in the config file I've missed?

Here's a sample of the code dvbe4sage generates

2010-03-26 15:53:28.496 Received command: "START SageTV DVB-S2 Enhancer 1 Digital TV Tuner|149280756|170|2539237616992|\\SAGE-SERVER\SageTV Recordings\70517_50_0326_1553-0.ts|Fair"
2010-03-26 15:53:28.496 Received START command to start recording on source "SageTV DVB-S2 Enhancer 1 Digital TV Tuner", channel=170, duration=2539237616, file="\\SAGE-SERVER\SageTV Recordings\70517_50_0326_1553-0.ts"
2010-03-26 15:53:28.512 Channel=170 was successfully mapped to SID=3861 on ONID=2, Name="Sky1 HD"
2010-03-26 15:53:28.512 Autodiscovery results for SID=3861 on ONID=2: TID=2033, Frequency=12343500, Symbol Rate=29500, Polarization=H, Modulation=QPSK (DVB-S2), FEC=3/4
2010-03-26 15:53:28.512 Cannot start recording for Channel=170 ("Sky1 HD"), no sutable source found!
2010-03-26 15:53:28.512 Received command: "GET_FILE_SIZE \\SAGE-SERVER\SageTV Recordings\70517_50_0326_1553-0.ts"
2010-03-26 15:53:28.512 Received command: "GET_FILE_SIZE \\SAGE-SERVER\SageTV Recordings\70517_50_0326_1553-0.ts"
2010-03-26 15:53:28.527 Received command: "GET_FILE_SIZE \\SAGE-SERVER\SageTV Recordings\70517_50_0326_1553-0.ts"
2010-03-26 15:53:47.121 Received command: "GET_FILE_SIZE \\SAGE-SERVER\SageTV Recordings\70517_50_0326_1553-0.ts"
2010-03-26 15:53:47.121 Received command: "GET_FILE_SIZE \\SAGE-SERVER\SageTV Recordings\70517_50_0326_1553-0.ts"
2010-03-26 15:53:47.231 Received command: "NOOP"
2010-03-26 15:53:47.231 Received command: "NOOP"
2010-03-26 15:53:47.231 Received command: "STOP SageTV DVB-S2 Enhancer 1 Digital TV Tuner"
2010-03-26 15:53:47.231 Requested by Sage, there is no recorder to stop!
2010-03-26 15:53:47.387 Received command: "NOOP"
2010-03-26 15:53:47.543 Received command: "NOOP"
2010-03-26 15:53:47.543 Received command: "NOOP"

[mpogr]

John,

You most probably didn't specify which of your tuners are S2 capable. For recording HD channels in Sage this is required, as DVBE4SAGE can't know this by itself. Under [Tuning], add the following flag:

DVBS2Tuners=x,y,z

Where x,y,z are the ordinal numbers of S2 capable tuners you have.

Best regards,

Michael.

[John@TunerUK]

My ini file looks like this....
I have only recently changed the DVBS2Tuners setting, but I have tried it since I added "1". I'll, shut the PC down and start from fresh just to make sure it's loaded correctly.

; This is a sample configuration file for dvbe4sage
; There are several categories of settings, for each setting the value here is the default one

[General]
;LogLevel=2
;NumberOfVirtualTuners=3
;DECSADllName=FFDeCSA_64_MMX.dll

[Plugins]
;DCWTimeout=5
ServedCAIDs=963

[Tuning]
InitialFrequency=10744000
InitialSymbolRate=22000
InitialPolarization=H
InitialModulation=QPSK
InitialFEC=5/6
InitialRunningTime=90
UseSidForTuning=0
;DVBS2Tuners=1
;ExcludeTuners=
;LNB_SW=11700000
;LNB_LOF1=9750000
;LNB_LOF2=10600000
;NumberOfBuffers=400
;TuningTimeout=20


[Output]
;TSPacketsPerOutputBuffer=160000
;TSPacketsOutputThreshold=70
;DisableWriteBuffering=0

[Encoder]
ListeningPort=6969

[Recording]
;PreferredAudioLanguage=eng

[Advanced]
PMTThreshold=100
PSIMaturityTime=90
DontFixPMT=1

[mpogr]

You have to remove the ";" in front of a flag in order to make in effective...