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WHS question
This may not be suited for this forum but I know alot of people are using WHS as the SageTV server.
My question is not about SageTV itself, but about a possible motherboard swap with my WHS. I currently have used all of my on board Sata connectors (4) for my Hard Drives. I will need more in the future. So, my question is, would it be better to get a PCI-e Sata card or swap out the motherboard. Could someone list the pros and cons of each please. Thanks, Chuck |
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I'm using an AMS Venus T4S e-SATA enclosure and I love it. The four-drive box in JBOD mode made it very easy to add additional storage without any fuss when I maxed out my internal connections. The included PCI-E x1 card installed without a hitch in WHS (download latest drivers from the company's site) and includes 2 e-SATA connections. I'm running 4 x 500GB Samsung Spinpoints and, so far, no troubles at all.
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Sage Server: SageTV v7.0.21WHS MB/CPU/RAM: Asus A8N5X NF4; Athlon64 X2 4200; 3GB RAM OS: WHS PP3 Capture: 1 x HDHR (Both tuning QAM); 1 x HD-PVR C2 (Component to Moto DCH-3200 - Channel change via Firewire); Extenders: 2 x STX-HD100; 1 x HD-300 (Panny G20 50" Plasma, Sony 32" LCD, Sammy 26 " LCD) |
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Thanks, Chuck |
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Do you mount that external JBOD as part of the Managed Pool or as a non-pool drive? Thanks, pat----
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Server -- Sage 7.1.9.256 in Service Mode w/Default UI - OS: Microsoft Windows Home Server (2003 SP2) - CPU: Intel C2Q Q6600 2.4GHz, MoBo: Gigabyte GA-EP45-UD3P, RAM: 4GB OCZ, HD: SYS 1x500GB (SATA, 100GB C: ), DATA 3x1TB (SATA, in Pool, 64K cluster size) Tuners -- 1xHDHomeRun Prime w/CC Clients -- 2 HD200 Extenders and 2 HD300 Extenders |
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Do you have the OEM or retail version of WHS? I'm not sure MS will let you swipe put the MB on the OEM version.
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Big Gerr _______ Server - WHS 2011: Sage 7.1.9 - 1 x HD Prime and 2 x HDHomeRun - Intel Atom D525 1.6 GHz, Acer Easystore, RAM 4 GB, 4 x 2TB hotswap drives, 1 x 2TB USB ext Clients: 2 x PC Clients, 1 x HD300, 2 x HD-200, 1 x HD-100 DEV Client: Win 7 Ultimate 64 bit - AMD 64 x2 6000+, Gigabyte GA-MA790GP-DS4H MB, RAM 4GB, HD OS:500GB, DATA:1 x 500GB, Pace RGN STB. |
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If you're concerned about performance trade-offs, I seriously doubt you'd see any in typical WHS use. If you're really concerned then make sure you get a 4x or more PCI-E card (and that your MB will use it). Don't both with a caching card, or a RAID card, and I'd highly recommend getting one with at least one eSATA port for future use.
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SageTV V7 (WHS), Diamond UI Server: WHS with Xeon X3350, 4GB ECC, ASUS P5BV-C/4L, recording into a 6.6TB Drive pool Tuners: 4 (2x HDHR) Clients: 2x HD300, 1x HD200 Extenders, 1x Placeshifter 2x Roku XD |
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Managed. After using the manufacturer's GUI to setup the array in JBOD, WHS immediately recognized them as available.
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Sage Server: SageTV v7.0.21WHS MB/CPU/RAM: Asus A8N5X NF4; Athlon64 X2 4200; 3GB RAM OS: WHS PP3 Capture: 1 x HDHR (Both tuning QAM); 1 x HD-PVR C2 (Component to Moto DCH-3200 - Channel change via Firewire); Extenders: 2 x STX-HD100; 1 x HD-300 (Panny G20 50" Plasma, Sony 32" LCD, Sammy 26 " LCD) |
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Server -- Sage 7.1.9.256 in Service Mode w/Default UI - OS: Microsoft Windows Home Server (2003 SP2) - CPU: Intel C2Q Q6600 2.4GHz, MoBo: Gigabyte GA-EP45-UD3P, RAM: 4GB OCZ, HD: SYS 1x500GB (SATA, 100GB C: ), DATA 3x1TB (SATA, in Pool, 64K cluster size) Tuners -- 1xHDHomeRun Prime w/CC Clients -- 2 HD200 Extenders and 2 HD300 Extenders |
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Do you have any input on my original question? Thanks, Chuck |
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Any links to an affordable card? Thanks, Chuck |
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I don't see where you indicate a specific mobo that you're considering. What's the price range you're looking at? Other than the number of SATA ports, is there any other reason you're considering a new mobo? Do you want to do a completely new build? If not, I'd say even spending about the same amount for a new PCI-e SATA card as you're considering for a new mobo would make more sense since all you have to do is add the card's drivers and not do a complete rebuild ... but that's just me.
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I'm just considering a mobo swap for the extra Sata ports. I thought being on board would be better than using a PCI-e card. It sounds like it wouldn't be though. Do you have any suggestions for a PCI-e card? Thanks, Chuck |
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Since you are looking to add new drives and not move your boot drive to it, and since you're looking to use it on WHS (Windows Server 2003 varient), I'd feel comfortable trying the $90 Rosewill RC-218 (NewEgg) in order to honor Slipshod's recommendation to have some eSata ports too. The negative comments on NewEgg appear to be almost completely related to Vista, so that's not an issue for you. The vendor offers drivers for XP & Server 2003.
If you can honestly say you can't envision using an external Sata device, then you can get better reviews by spending roughly $30 more ($119) on the HighPoint RocketRAID 2300. Don't bother with the raid aspect, just go with the individual drives and add them to your Managed Pool as you install them. The Rosewill needs a PCI-E x8 or x16 slot. The Highpoint will fit in a PCI-E x1 slot. But again, considering the complaints against the Rosewill appear to be all Vista related, and since Rosewill has Server 2003 drivers on their site, I would probably go that route. It's cheaper. pat----
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Thanks for the links. Those looks like good options. I'm not in dire need of this yet but wanted to weigh my options. My mobo says it has an x 16 slot so it should work. Thanks, Chuck |
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This question is kind of off my orginal topic but since I started this thread, I thought it would be ok to hijack it!!
Since I'm using WHS for my SageTV server, I'm considering the ramifications if my system drive fails and wanted to know what options there were for backing up the System drive (C and D) that would get the server back up and running in the least amout of time. I'm sure it would require a third party software application to do so. Just wanted to know what was the best option. Also, I would like for some sort of automated backup of the system drive to a hard drive not attached to the pool. Thanks, Chuck |
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Gerry
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Big Gerr _______ Server - WHS 2011: Sage 7.1.9 - 1 x HD Prime and 2 x HDHomeRun - Intel Atom D525 1.6 GHz, Acer Easystore, RAM 4 GB, 4 x 2TB hotswap drives, 1 x 2TB USB ext Clients: 2 x PC Clients, 1 x HD300, 2 x HD-200, 1 x HD-100 DEV Client: Win 7 Ultimate 64 bit - AMD 64 x2 6000+, Gigabyte GA-MA790GP-DS4H MB, RAM 4GB, HD OS:500GB, DATA:1 x 500GB, Pace RGN STB. |
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Thanks for the info. I probably will go down that path. I'm sure at some point I will have filled up my available internal Hard Drive slots and will have to go to external ones. Thanks, Chuck |
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