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Old 06-05-2009, 04:52 AM
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On extenders, you can playback the m2ts files, so you can watch the movies, with limited audio capabilities, no BDLive or Menus, and it will show the BD folder structure as just a single movie, like it does for ripped dvds. On a PC directly (SageTV, or SageTVClient) you should be able to browse to the m2ts file directly, and play it, or, the better option, is to use an external dvd playing software for full featured playback (full audio support, menus, bdlive, etc). I don't have an extender, and this is one reason I haven't bought one yet. I did spend quite a bit of time getting PowerDVD to work well with my remote using girder.
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Old 06-05-2009, 06:32 AM
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Thanks guys for explaining so well.

I probably should have made the title of this thread a little clearer, since I've technically played back ripped blu-ray movies for over a year now when blu-ray movies weren't supported on sageTV; however, it was only for a single m2ts file where the whole movie was on one file. Lately, I kept hearing a lot of talk about official ripped blu-ray support for extenders (supporting the entire folder structure for the movie itself only); however, I still didnt know how to avoid seeing tons of m2ts files when going into the imported videos section... which now I know
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Old 06-11-2009, 09:31 PM
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What do you mean by external dvd playing software, I would like to make full use of my bd backups on my HD

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On extenders, you can playback the m2ts files, so you can watch the movies, with limited audio capabilities, no BDLive or Menus, and it will show the BD folder structure as just a single movie, like it does for ripped dvds. On a PC directly (SageTV, or SageTVClient) you should be able to browse to the m2ts file directly, and play it, or, the better option, is to use an external dvd playing software for full featured playback (full audio support, menus, bdlive, etc). I don't have an extender, and this is one reason I haven't bought one yet. I did spend quite a bit of time getting PowerDVD to work well with my remote using girder.
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Old 06-12-2009, 03:59 AM
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What do you mean by external dvd playing software, I would like to make full use of my bd backups on my HD
I mean non sagetv software. In my case, when I want to watch a Blu-Ray (or DVD even) I have it load up PowerDVD. Not as seamless as working within sage completely, but it seems to work just fine for me. Haven't tried using it to play from a folder, but I'm pretty sure PowerDVD has that capability, just not sure on how to easily launch it to do so.
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Old 06-12-2009, 05:52 AM
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PowerDVD won't play BDs from a folder, only from a "drive".
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Old 06-12-2009, 03:38 PM
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PowerDVD won't play BDs from a folder, only from a "drive".
Really? My camcorder makes BD compatible folders & PowerDVD plays them as a disk if I point it at the root folder. Seems like a BD rip would be the same, no?
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Old 06-12-2009, 05:09 PM
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Probably makes BDAV not BDMV folders. Or, perhaps you have an old version of PowerDVD from before they removed that feature.
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Old 06-12-2009, 06:20 PM
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Probably makes BDAV not BDMV folders. Or, perhaps you have an old version of PowerDVD from before they removed that feature.
I'm pretty sure they're BDMV folders. I have PowerDVD Ultra v8.

While we're on the subject: What is with Cyberlink and removing features? They recently disabled my AVCHD codec outside of powerdvd - so now I have to buy their "Codec Pack".

I have nothing other than horrible things to say about that company right now, so I'm just going to hit the submit button.....
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Old 06-25-2009, 08:11 AM
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what's w/ the lack of audio for the m2ts files?

So, like the one poster said, i can play the m2ts file from a ripped blu-ray disc just fine, well video at least. (sage server on linux, client on windows...trying to play on windows) I get no audio. I've tried what seems like all the different audio options in the sage setup to no avail. Am i missing something? Is there a specific audio track type that is required so that sage can play it back? I thought i had ripped all the audio tracks when i ripped the movie, but I can go back and check to ensure i got a specific one if necessary.
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Old 09-02-2009, 10:13 PM
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I have ripped Death Race and just dropped it into an import folder. Once everything for the metadata loads, I try to go and play it. I can mouse over the play button but it won't do a thing. I am using the CyberLink PowerDVD H.264 decoder. PLUCKYHD's movie wall even recognized it as a blu-ray. Is my problem in the decoder?
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Old 09-03-2009, 02:21 AM
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I have ripped Death Race and just dropped it into an import folder. Once everything for the metadata loads, I try to go and play it. I can mouse over the play button but it won't do a thing. I am using the CyberLink PowerDVD H.264 decoder. PLUCKYHD's movie wall even recognized it as a blu-ray. Is my problem in the decoder?
More info... Is this on an extender, or Sage Client (or server)? If client or server, I'm pretty sure Blu-Ray folder support isn't in yet. Best option is to use something like MakeMKV to roll the file into a single video file.
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Old 09-03-2009, 03:06 PM
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More info... Is this on an extender, or Sage Client (or server)? If client or server, I'm pretty sure Blu-Ray folder support isn't in yet. Best option is to use something like MakeMKV to roll the file into a single video file.
Well, I kind of got this to work but it is still blurry to me. I am just ripping these onto my server right now. I ripped Goodfellas and it is a single .m2ts stream. I used tSmuxer to get what I wanted and then grabbed a codec pack. It is now playable in Sage. Death Race on the other hand, has about 40-50 single .m2ts streams. You think MakeMKV would be the best option to join all these together and put in .mkv? I have read in other threads that MKVMerge may do this also? I'm sure this has been asked but alot of the threads focused on extenders.
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You need to use something like Clown_BD or TSMuxer to rebuild that. You find the playlist you want with BD Info, and then open that with Clown_BD or TSMuxer and tell it to make a m2ts output.
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Old 09-03-2009, 04:16 PM
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Ahh...I did try putting the playlist together in tSmuxer. I just picked each file that was in order in BDInfo and then imported them in tSmuxer to output to a .m2ts. After I ran tSmuxer and threw the end result file into an import folder. It threw up an error with Haali Media Splitter. I am at work and I don't exactly remember the code it was but I know that's what it said. Is there a way to import the playlist itself or something into tSmuxer?
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Old 09-03-2009, 04:44 PM
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Run BDInfo first - it'll tell you which playlist to load in tsMuxer. In tsMuxer load the playlist instead of the m2ts files. (tsMuxer will use the playlist to load the m2ts files in proper order).
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Old 09-03-2009, 06:48 PM
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That's what I was needing to know. Still at work but I will try when I get home. I remember reading a thread and seeing Stanger and Helen answering quite a bit. You two were prolly the ones I needed to talk to.

Thanks! I appreciate it.
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Old 09-03-2009, 06:54 PM
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Or just run MakeMKV and it will do it all for you, no transcoding, it just dumps it all into a MKV container in the correct order.
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Old 09-03-2009, 08:22 PM
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I'll try it both ways. Will the quality be any less or different depending if I go a certain way?
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Old 09-03-2009, 09:00 PM
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Since neither of them do any transcoding, the quality should be the same, it's just a different container.
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Since neither of them do any transcoding, the quality should be the same, it's just a different container.
Alright, just double checking. I feel pretty dumb now since last night I opened up BD Info and tSmuxer and literally matched each single .m2ts file with the playlist. I wish I would've just did the playlist file. Oh well, learned something new! Death Race played like a charm and PLUCKY's SMW recognized the DTS-HD audio and showed the icon. Thanks for the help!!
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