SageMCTuner - use a cablecard in Sage!

[wayner]

Originally Posted by babgvant

Should everything work out there will be some drawbacks (tuner lag is probably the biggest).

Will the tuner lag be any worse than with an HD-PVR where it takes about 5 seconds to change a channel?

If this works as well as it looks it does I just wish Canadian cable companies would be willing to provide their customers with CableCards.

[babgvant]

Originally Posted by wayner

Will the tuner lag be any worse than with an HD-PVR where it takes about 5 seconds to change a channel?

If this works as well as it looks it does I just wish Canadian cable companies would be willing to provide their customers with CableCards.

The current implementation uses a configurable "handicap" value to wait for data to start writing to the WTV before starting the container swap. On the test system this value is 5 seconds.

I haven't messed with trying to minimize the value so I have no idea how low it can go; I just picked a number

[LehighBri]

Originally Posted by babgvant

The testing Mike and I have done has produced some very promising results, but there is still more work to do to ensure an acceptable level of stability and a lot more testing.

Should everything work out there will be some drawbacks (tuner lag is probably the biggest). And it will be somewhat complex to install because (at least in the current implementation) the application has a dependency on a free 3rd party filter that I can't legally include in the install.

All that said, it was great seeing it work

Amazing stuff. Can't wait for those new Ceton tuners to come out next year!

[btrcp2000]

Now that I have my WHS install reasonably stable, is there any hope that this will ever work thru WHS?

[MitchSchaft]

I don't see microsoft making WMC for WHS any time soon. Don't hold your breathe.

[babgvant]

Originally Posted by btrcp2000

Now that I have my WHS install reasonably stable, is there any hope that this will ever work thru WHS?

ati dcts expose themselves as a usb nic so it might be possible to virtualize an instance on windows 7

[Lahr]

Will this work for any tuner. It would be nice to use this for networked tuners?

[babgvant]

It should work with any tuner that MC supports since it's really just brokering the tuning request to MC and letting it handle everything else.

[Lahr]

I sure am glad to see you here. Is there any way you could give me a little more detailed instructions on the setup, I've got SageMCTuner installed as a service on my Win7 computer and Sage for WHS on a mini-ITX computer and sage client on another mini-ITX unit. Is this possiable or am I streching it?

[babgvant]

I need to update the bits on my site. Made a lot of changes when Mike and I were working on it but forgot to package it up afterwards.

As long as you have the network bandwidth to spare, I don't thing your arch is an issue.

[babgvant]

Updated the bits. AVIVO is now a required component.

[Lahr]

Ok before I embark on this:
1) I don't use cable cards (no cable) and want to use my Win7 computer with the tuners installed (one Avermedia dual digital tuner card and 2 analog cards) in it as basicly a networked tuner box.
2) I have a gigabit router so I should have enough bandwith?
3) no ATI stuff only nVidia. Will this change the requirements for AVIVO?
4) Tried with previous files and setup, was able to get Sage to show signal strenth of 100% on tuner but could not preview chanel.
5) If we can get this working I would be willing to write up the setup instructions.
(I live in Alaska and still need analog)

[stanger89]

I think you're better off just installing Sage on that machine and running the tuners directly.

[Lahr]

Just trying to find a way to have both Sage and MC with the tools at my disposal.

[stanger89]

What are you trying to accomplish by that?

[Lahr]

Originally Posted by stanger89

What are you trying to accomplish by that?

Please read previous post.

1) I don't use cable cards (no cable) and want to use my Win7 computer with the tuners installed (one Avermedia dual digital tuner card and 2 analog cards) in it as basicly a networked tuner box.

Unless you would like to buy me a dual tuner HDHR. LOL

[babgvant]

Originally Posted by Lahr

Ok before I embark on this:
2) I have a gigabit router so I should have enough bandwith?

yep

Originally Posted by Lahr

3) no ATI stuff only nVidia. Will this change the requirements for AVIVO?

AVIVO is a requirement. Download and install the package. If it fails go to C:\ATI\Support\9-11_vista_win7_32-64_xcode\Packages\Apps\AVIVO and run AVIVO.msi.

If you see a registration error during the install, open an elevated cmd prompt and run

regsvr32 "C:\Program Files\Common Files\ATI Technologies\Multimedia\atimpenc.dll"

Originally Posted by Lahr

4) Tried with previous files and setup, was able to get Sage to show signal strenth of 100% on tuner but could not preview chanel.

Preview and channel scanning don't work properly. I didn't see the point to implementing the feature because you will do all of the EPG setup in MC. Sage's EPG should map 1-1 with the MC EPG, if there are differences put them in the xml file used for that purpose.

[Fuzzy]

Originally Posted by Lahr

Please read previous post.

1) I don't use cable cards (no cable) and want to use my Win7 computer with the tuners installed (one Avermedia dual digital tuner card and 2 analog cards) in it as basicly a networked tuner box.

Unless you would like to buy me a dual tuner HDHR. LOL

I think his question was more along the lines of why keep sage AND MC at the same time. Just move everything over to Sage and you will ahve a much simpler setup.

[scoful]

http://www.cetoncorp.com/ProductsWMC.php

Record 6 simultaneous HD shows at one time!

I'm an IT consultant and a friend of mine has a Home Theater company. He's been wanting me to help him out with HTPC's - but firewire hasn't been a cakewalk (as a matter of fact, a series of power outages last night has left my system running on one less DCT-6200 for some reason).

These are expected to release Q1 2010 - I sure hope they're relatively inexpensive and readily available.

I'd love to have a Sage Server with one cable connection coming in and 0 STB's!

[bclenney]

Wow! Hope that isnt vaporware. That would make my day.

Originally Posted by scoful

http://www.cetoncorp.com/ProductsWMC.php

Record 6 simultaneous HD shows at one time!

I'm an IT consultant and a friend of mine has a Home Theater company. He's been wanting me to help him out with HTPC's - but firewire hasn't been a cakewalk (as a matter of fact, a series of power outages last night has left my system running on one less DCT-6200 for some reason).

These are expected to release Q1 2010 - I sure hope they're relatively inexpensive and readily available.

I'd love to have a Sage Server with one cable connection coming in and 0 STB's!