SageMCTuner - use a cablecard in Sage!

[Deacon Crusher]

babgvant

A couple of questions.

Any updates on status of your remarkable utility and it's stability and functionality?

Can you confirm that if I used Windows 7 as my sage server that I could get all of this working on one box?

Is there a clear how to install and test at this point.

I've looked around and feel like I'm missing a link or 2 somewhere.

thanks

Originally Posted by babgvant

Not accidentally launching 7MC is easy, just need to rename ehtray.exe.

Setting up tuners may be a bigger challenge, but we should be able to get around that by physically removing them when setting up TV in MC.

[Deacon Crusher]

And one more general comment. If this works well then I'm all over a Ceton or a Silicondust cable card tuner the second they are released and at that point I'll go from 3 cable boxes to one (hooked to HD-PVR), plus a cable card and save between $20 and $30 a month.

Family is about ready to live in Sage for TV watching, but would need another 2 tuners (at least) that can handle the stuff we can currently only watch through cable box or HD-PVR to do this effectively.

If it then works really well might even retire the HD-PVR and go to no boxes? is that possible? will these things work with/allow watching of on-demand channels or is that still broken with cable card?

Thanks

[stanger89]

Originally Posted by Deacon Crusher

If it then works really well might even retire the HD-PVR and go to no boxes? is that possible?

I would move very cautiously with this. While I have no doubt of Andy's coding skills and I'm sure the "plugin" will function great within it's bounds. I would be very careful about moving for fear of your cable company flagging most/everything copy once.

will these things work with/allow watching of on-demand channels or is that still broken with cable card?

Whether it works with CableCard or not is mostly irrelevant, on demand and PPV are, AFAIK, almost always flagged copy never (maybe copy once) which would mean they'd be useless with this plugin in Sage.

[petereader]

Flashback just mentioned in this post that preorder is available for the Ceton card at Zones.com.

Unfortunately, the email I received from Ceton also states that the release date for the InfiniTV line of cable card tuners has been pushed back to May 31st

The full email has been posted in this Green Button thread

[kmp14]

Ok, so now that some of the Ceton pre-orders are shipping, anyone gonna give it a try with Sage? I am tempted, but I did not pre-order.

[babgvant]

It's on Mikinho's list for part 3.

[Naylia]

Bring on Part 3!!!!

[heffneil]

I just got in line for a preorder and I would even build a machine to run MC to use it as network encoder but I do have concerns about the DRM. I was hoping using it as a network encoder would "filter" out the DRM issues but I guess that was wishful thinking. I don't have another cable card or device to test it with so I might cancel the preorder. Just is an expensive proposition if I am very limited.

[Fuzzy]

Well, worst case, is you'll be stuck with using 7MC, and only being to play back your DRM content there. You'll be at the whim of the content provider, and how they flag it.

[heffneil]

Yeah but which extenders can I use with 7MC as you call it? I am way too invested in SageTV to be looking at another / second / replacement platform?

Neil

[Surtr]

For an extender with 7MC you can use an xbox 360 or a hardware dedicated extender like a linksys DMA2100.

[Brent]

Originally Posted by Surtr

For an extender with 7MC you can use an xbox 360 or a hardware dedicated extender like a linksys DMA2100.

Xbox360 is okay as an extender for some use cases. DMA2100 - pretty much stinks as an extender or even a paperweight.
Both pale in comparison to the SageTV HD Extenders - even the HD100

[Fuzzy]

I did say switching to 7MC would be the 'worst case'' scenario... It in no way compares to SageTV.. but it DOES support cablecard.

[Surtr]

Although I agree that the HD100 and HD200 are far superior than the DMA2100, IMO it's definitely not awful. It sucked for playing back avi's, but for recorded HD it was quite good. Certainly slower than the xbox and HD100 though. Quite a bit cheaper too, I got one on ebay for 85 bucks. Sold it and came back to sage because IMO sage is that much better, even with lack of cablecard support.

[SCPRedMage]

Originally Posted by kmp14

Ok, so now that some of the Ceton pre-orders are shipping, anyone gonna give it a try with Sage? I am tempted, but I did not pre-order.

I pre-ordered from Cannon back at the beginning of May, and have been waiting until I get it to migrate to Sage 7 on my new hardware...

[cyberwolf]

What i don't understand is why Sage v7 doesn't support cable cards now. SageTV has already purchased a PlayReady license see http://www.microsoft.com/PlayReady/L...licensees.mspx
They have been on M$ "PlayReady Master Agreement Licensees" for awhile too.

I have been waiting for SageTV to officially support CC, at least on W7, before purchasing one.

[gplasky]

Originally Posted by cyberwolf

What i don't understand is why Sage v7 doesn't support cable cards now. SageTV has already purchased a PlayReady license see http://www.microsoft.com/PlayReady/L...licensees.mspx
They have been on M$ "PlayReady Master Agreement Licensees" for awhile too.

I have been waiting for SageTV to officially support CC, at least on W7, before purchasing one.

Maybe because Microsoft is Windows and they need to figure a way to make it work with extenders and the other OS's SageTV server also supports.

Gerry

[tmiranda]

Or maybe because they are working on it. (I'm hoping anyway.)

[MitchSchaft]

And they refuse to put DRM in Sage, so that's the original reason.

[Sparhawk6]

Originally Posted by cyberwolf

What i don't understand is why Sage v7 doesn't support cable cards now. SageTV has already purchased a PlayReady license see http://www.microsoft.com/PlayReady/L...licensees.mspx
They have been on M$ "PlayReady Master Agreement Licensees" for awhile too.

I have been waiting for SageTV to officially support CC, at least on W7, before purchasing one.

So Sage has a license to a DRM standard? I figured all along that the fact that CableCard was DRM'd was not the reason SageTV doesn't support cablecard. Rather, the real reason is that it is too expensive to become licensed/cerfified.