Plugin: Upcoming Movies

[JREkiwi]

Various style Upcoming Movies panels. Default, SageMC and Malore. Selectable from the sub menu under TV and Schedule Recordings

Default View


SageMC View

John

[jbrandon]

I like it, thanks...

I do wish I could filter out watched items leaving just the un-watched upcoming movies and the ability to have more lines on the screen at one time...

I know, you give and all I do is take but I did say thank you!

Jim

[JREkiwi]

Originally Posted by jbrandon

I do wish I could filter out watched items leaving just the un-watched upcoming movies and the ability to have more lines on the screen at one time...

Number of lines is easy. I'll have a look at the filtering.

John

[JREkiwi]

Originally Posted by jbrandon

I do wish I could filter out watched items leaving just the un-watched upcoming movies and the ability to have more lines on the screen at one time...

Jim, both of these functions are available in the version 1.7 that is now in the plugin system.

John

[jbrandon]

Works like a charm now…

Thanks!!

Jim

[49studebaker]

Could you add an option to group duplicate movies? Thanks.

[Fuzzy]

Any reason you don't want to use the Malore menus for this? It's got all the customizations you want...

[mkanet]

Malore menus have been around a long time... and, IMO, look pretty much just as bad under SageTV 7 as it did under sageTV 6; especially, if the user is used to seeing SageMC UI quality. I actually have Malore menus disabled under SageTV7.

Originally Posted by Fuzzy

Any reason you don't want to use the Malore menus for this? It's got all the customizations you want...

[mkanet]

JREkiwi, thanks so much for your addon. You already added the first enhancement request before I could even upgrade to sageTV 7's default STV.

I am hoping you wouldnt mind adding an easy-access toggle button on the menu like sageMC to display Upcoming Movies (that are about to start) verses movies that are already on. Currently, me and my wife have to press page down several times just to reach the movies that are about to start soon and looking at the clock on top of the screen). I'm not sure if it's feasible to also add "...in xxx minutes"; which would also make things a lot nicer IMO. We used to actually have the Upcoming Movies for SageMC right on the Main Menu... since most of the time we would just turn on the TV to see what movies are about to start or already on with just a few clicks of the remote control.

Thanks for all your hard work!

-Sincerely,
Michael

[Fuzzy]

Originally Posted by mkanet

Malore menus have been around a long time... and, IMO, look pretty much just as bad under SageTV 7 as it did under sageTV 6; especially, if the user is used to seeing SageMC UI quality. I actually have Malore menus disabled under SageTV7.

What, in particular, don't you like about the Malore screens? I think the only 'advantage' SageMC had in this regard, was that it was a LOT easier to make something 'look good' if you don't actually have that much information on the screen.

[darcilicious]

Originally Posted by Fuzzy

What, in particular, don't you like about the Malore screens?

Personally, I really dislike the neon green text color -- right out of a 1980s time-sharing computer monitor (er, that doesn't date me or anything, does it? ) Not entirely fond of the bright yellow for the Show Title either.

Also, how do you filter/sort Malore to show only future movies, not those currently in progress? It's 3:50p and there are movies starting at 2:00p in the "movies" only list I created.

[mkanet]

Hi Fuzzy, being an old Malore menus user since 2004, I can appreciate the flexibility it offers in it's filter customizations. In fact, I loved it; especially since nobody else used my sageTV setup; and there wasnt anything else that could come close to do what it did. However, let's face it, Malore menus is way out-dated in terms of UI presentation for today's standards; even for last generation's standards in SageMC... It's not an easy thing to explain; hence why you had to ask more than once. But, it appears that the newer generation of users (not just sageTV) would prefer to sacrifice some flexibility in configuration/filters/whatever for simplicity and current generation UI design elegance.. showing only the most important pieces of information that a user can view at a glance... with only a couple of very commonly used buttons/toggles that even someone who has never seen the menu before, would comprehend whats going at a glance of the screen and make respective toggle/configuration changes with the remote control; hence, why there's a demand for a modern style addon like this. SageMC nailed it in IMO. Honestly, I'm surprised old Malore menu code wasn't removed when sageMC started getting popular in 2006. Maybe, I didn't do a great job of explaining; but, I did try anyway

Originally Posted by Fuzzy

What, in particular, don't you like about the Malore screens? I think the only 'advantage' SageMC had in this regard, was that it was a LOT easier to make something 'look good' if you don't actually have that much information on the screen.

[Fuzzy]

Originally Posted by mkanet

Hi Fuzzy, being an old Malore menus user since 2004, I can appreciate the flexibility it offers in it's filter customizations. In fact, I loved it; especially since nobody else used my sageTV setup; and there wasnt anything else that could come close to do what it did. However, let's face it, Malore menus is way out-dated in terms of UI presentation for today's standards; even for last generation's standards in SageMC... It's not an easy thing to explain; hence why you had to ask more than once. But, it appears that the newer generation of users (not just sageTV) would prefer to sacrifice some flexibility in configuration/filters/whatever for simplicity and current generation UI design elegance.. showing only the most important pieces of information that a user can view at a glance... with only a couple of very commonly used buttons/toggles that even someone who has never seen the menu before, would comprehend whats going at a glance of the screen and make respective toggle/configuration changes with the remote control; hence, why there's a demand for a modern style addon like this. SageMC nailed it in IMO. Honestly, I'm surprised old Malore menu code wasn't removed when sageMC started getting popular in 2006. Maybe, I didn't do a great job of explaining; but, I did try anyway

No, I don't think you did a very good job... you said what you liked about SageMC (that it only provides a little bit of information) but NOT what you dislike about Malore. Is it the two-pane setup, or is it just an appearance thing? This is what I'm trying to figure out. I definitely believe Malore could use some accessibility improvements, which is why I ask. (though, really, everyone who's used my set has no problem navigating around it.. the two pane isn't a new concept.. Dish network's been using it for many years) Personally, the only hiccup anyone has come across in my household on first use of the Malore screens was how to change views without having to scroll all the way to the top. All this would need is to add some |<< and >>| icons on either side of the view bar.

[Fuzzy]

Originally Posted by darcilicious

Also, how do you filter/sort Malore to show only future movies, not those currently in progress? It's 3:50p and there are movies starting at 2:00p in the "movies" only list I created.

Are you in the Malore 'Upcoming Movies' screen? (It's under TV -> Custom Menus -> Upcoming Movies). For me, at least, if only shows movies that start in the future. If, you instead, are modifying a guide view, it will, just like a program guide, show you what is on now as well.

[darcilicious]

Oh. There! Thanks!

[mkanet]

The latest update now puts an Upcoming Movies conveniently under "TV" where it should be! Thanks! My wife and I use this addon daily.

[JREkiwi]

mkanet, thought you'd like this teaser of one of the views in the next version.

John

[mkanet]

Thanks John. Youre right. I really like it! I'm guessing the top option can toggle between, "Up Next" and "On Now"? If so, can we choose to have it default to "Up Next" or "On Now"? Thanks a million for whatever you decide to do.

Michael

Originally Posted by JREkiwi

mkanet, thought you'd like this teaser of one of the views in the next version.

John

[JREkiwi]

I've submitted a first pass at a SaegMC style option to the plugin repository.

There's a couple of things missing like grouping by name and an option of displaying "..in xx minutes", but with the ease of updating via the plugin system, I thought I'd at least get it out there while I work on those.

John

[mkanet]

I just switched to SageMC style. You practically nailed it in one try!

Nice! Just a couple of minor observations:

I dont know if there's something wrong with my setup, but pretty much all my movies display the name twice and the date/channel number it was recorded on is very small.

Anyhow great work!

Michael



Sorry, I couldn't resist adding another screenshot

Originally Posted by JREkiwi

I've submitted a first pass at a SaegMC style option to the plugin repository.

There's a couple of things missing like grouping by name and an option of displaying "..in xx minutes", but with the ease of updating via the plugin system, I thought I'd at least get it out there while I work on those.

John