Plugin:: Sage My Movies for Sagetv

[batwater]

Plucky, I'm waiting anxiously for SageTV to come back up after the installation of the plugin, black screen on my HD200 for the moment...

Anyway, while waiting I started reading the customization info on your wiki, the info on the directory location for WHS for the customizations may be a bit confusing in that if you are on the console or a Remote Desktop Connection, per the MyMovies How-To:

Should you be using Windows Home Server as your back-end server, the directory for customization will be placed in the directory:

"D:\My Movies\FileStorage\User Customization" (The directory may have to be created).

You might consider adding this, otherwise that portion is quite clear.

Thanks for the outstanding work!
-Ben

[PLUCKYHD]

Originally Posted by cosmos359

I was curious though how difficult would it be to add in mouse support? Is there a setting somewhere I can enable? I have my computer hooked up to my tv thru HDMI and do much more then just tv/movies and have always found it simpler to use a mouse to navigate my way around Sage. I know I'm in the minority on this, but if its a minor thing to add in mouse support I know I'd enjoy it, if its a much trouble at all then certainly don't worry about it at all.

Thanks again!

Wes

Wes it would be pretty hard in a couple of the views because to go outside the overscan like I do I had to click the option that disables mouse so unless sage changes something not sure there is much I can do. I will ask though.

[jptheripper]

Originally Posted by batwater

Plucky, I'm waiting anxiously for SageTV to come back up after the installation of the plugin, black screen on my HD200 for the moment...

Anyway, while waiting I started reading the customization info on your wiki, the info on the directory location for WHS for the customizations may be a bit confusing in that if you are on the console or a Remote Desktop Connection, per the MyMovies How-To:


You might consider adding this, otherwise that portion is quite clear.

Thanks for the outstanding work!
-Ben

Although, since RDP in WHS is unsupported , you can also access it at
\\<servername>\mymoviesfilestorage$\

[PLUCKYHD]

Wes[/QUOTE]

Originally Posted by jptheripper

Although, since RDP in WHS is unsupported , you can also access it at
\\<servername>\mymoviesfilestorage$\

Took the words out of my mouth most don't rdp into WHS (some of us nerds do but most don't )

[PLUCKYHD]

Hey all just wanted to say thanks for all the great feedback and understanding during these first couple of days. To say I am overwhelmed right now at the amount of interest and use of this is a understatement. Thanks for patience while I work to fix issues or add features people are requesting.

Remember if you have a issue or feature make sure and log it on the googlecode page or I am 99% sure I won't remember at this point.

Also thanks to DBONE for the great writeup and walkthrough of SMM I have added it to the first page under walkthrough

As well as peter for helping me keep the wiki updated documentation I am not best at.

cheers

[Brent94Z]

Well, after many hours of my computer chugging away, my DVDProfiler database was imported and now I've got 2000+ movies in My Movies and it is AWESOME!!!! LOL



One issue I noticed though... I have several DVD covers that are not being displayed in any of the views, but I do see a pattern for the ones that are not being displayed. The DVD covers are in Collection Manager but for the ones not working in Sage My Movies, there is no little "take" or "action" (you know, the little boards that they slap the two pieces together and yell ACTION! LOL) icon to the left of the Title. This is the icon between the colored capsule that shows graphically percent complete for DVD info and the movie title. This icon looks to be related to "Studios" because the same icon exists in the main area of Collection Manager. And, sure enough, the ones with no icon have no Studio information. But, when I add just a random studio, that icon doesn't fill on the left hand side so not sure what's up with that.

Anyway, I have no idea why but for the movies I imported from DVDProfiler with no Stuido information, the cover art is not showing in Sage My Movies even though in Collection Manager there IS cover art. Any ideas?

Thanks much again... I've got a buddy who is a movie nut and he is going to FREAK when he sees this. LOL!!!

[wbarber69]

I just got into using mymovies and everything looks great and I can see all my info and movies, I was just wondering what I'm doing wrong since it seems that I can't watch any of the movies from the mymovies menu, I've tried it on multiple systems running sagetv. All works as it should on WMC but sage doesn't play any of my movies.

Also, all my movies are setup as dvd folders

[Fuzzy]

Check the wiki, but the common problem is that the paths to the movies in MyMovies CM has ot be tha same as the paths to the movies from sage. Also, after they are set, you have to 'rebuild' the database from within SMM.

[wbarber69]

awesome that worked exactly

[razrsharpe]

Originally Posted by PLUCKYHD

Wes it would be pretty hard in a couple of the views because to go outside the overscan like I do I had to click the option that disables mouse so unless sage changes something not sure there is much I can do. I will ask though.

and who uses a mouse anyway isn't this a 10' interface

[Fuzzy]

they make USB extensions up to 15'... ;-)

[mayamaniac]

Very impressive Plucky. This has to be the best eye candy plugin for SageTV. This is an awesome plugin for the SageTV community. Thanks for the hard work and effort.

I'm still trying to figure everything out as I'm not familiar with MyMovies. It's really a shame that it can't work with just BMT data because depending on MyMovie can be a steep learning curve to use this plugin. It becomes quite a chore to get everything setup properly, starting with putting every file into folders. And it doesn't help that MyMovies doesn't come with a manual, not even an online one. But I understand that in the end, it is probably for the best to go with MyMovies and not BMT data.

I haven't read through all the posts or wiki, but I noticed none of the buttons in the Info screen works, such as Summary, Cast, Details, Trailers, etc. And lastly, how do I set the SidewaysView as the default view?

[Peter_h]

Originally Posted by mayamaniac

<snip)...
I noticed none of the buttons in the Info screen works, such as Summary, Cast, Details, Trailers, etc.

Per the first post:

Originally Posted by PLUCKYHD

<snip>...
Current Known Limitations:
1. Does not currently have a working info if you hit info you will see it but nothing functions in there.Please don't post the info view doesn't work

2nd question.

Originally Posted by mayamaniac

<snip>...
And lastly, how do I set the SidewaysView as the default view?

Per the Wiki:

How do I change the default view when hitting MyMovies from the Home Screen?

Open the submenu with all views. Highlight the view that you would like to use and hit the "Favorite" button

And Lastly,

Originally Posted by mayamaniac

<snip>...
It's really a shame that it can't work with just BMT data because depending on MyMovie can be a steep learning curve to use this plugin.

Per the first post:

Originally Posted by PLUCKYHD

<snip>...
2. BMT/Phoenix API is not currently yet supported should be shortly still working on that one didn't make original release.

Give MyMovies a try for a few days. It's different at first and can be a little difficult to set up. However, after a few days I really started to like the interface. At first I hated it but the library is much more extensive and accurate. Some of the advanced features in MyMovies are really nice. Not trying to discount the hard work sean has put in to BMT in any way but you should give MyMovies a try for a couple days before fully passing judgement.

-Peter

[PLUCKYHD]

Originally Posted by Brent94Z

Well, after many hours of my computer chugging away, my DVDProfiler database was imported and now I've got 2000+ movies in My Movies and it is AWESOME!!!! LOL



One issue I noticed though... I have several DVD covers that are not being displayed in any of the views, but I do see a pattern for the ones that are not being displayed. The DVD covers are in Collection Manager but for the ones not working in Sage My Movies, there is no little "take" or "action" (you know, the little boards that they slap the two pieces together and yell ACTION! LOL) icon to the left of the Title. This is the icon between the colored capsule that shows graphically percent complete for DVD info and the movie title. This icon looks to be related to "Studios" because the same icon exists in the main area of Collection Manager. And, sure enough, the ones with no icon have no Studio information. But, when I add just a random studio, that icon doesn't fill on the left hand side so not sure what's up with that.

Anyway, I have no idea why but for the movies I imported from DVDProfiler with no Stuido information, the cover art is not showing in Sage My Movies even though in Collection Manager there IS cover art. Any ideas?

Thanks much again... I've got a buddy who is a movie nut and he is going to FREAK when he sees this. LOL!!!

Firstly the clapperboard is just simply the online icon the offline should show a disc icon.

Second the ones not showing their cover which view and on what a client or extender? Does the mymovies collection manager show their cover right?

Cheers and thanks for the kind words.

[Brent94Z]

Originally Posted by PLUCKYHD

Firstly the clapperboard is just simply the online icon the offline should show a disc icon.

Second the ones not showing their cover which view and on what a client or extender? Does the mymovies collection manager show their cover right?

Cheers and thanks for the kind words.

The clapperboard! I knew there must be a name for it but it escaped me at the time. LOL

But, I think our versions of Collection Manager must be different or something is going on because that icon definitely does not indicate, on my setup, that the movie is online or offline. I have over 2000 DVDs with only 175 or so "online". About 95% or so of the collection DOES have the clapperboard icon. I have checked numerous titles and, on my computer, this clapperboard has nothing to do with online vs offline. In the details part of each movie, there is also a clapperboard icon. This icon is labeled "Studios". This is definitely related to the clapperboard icon in the list in that, if there are no Stuidos listed, there is no clapperboard icon in the list. But, this is odd because to me, this is a very "meaningless" piece of data so why put it in the list view... seems to make much more sense to have the disc icon there which would indicate if it is online or offline. I did download a new version from just a few days ago... maybe this was changed?

I am only using Sage My Movies on my Sage server HTPC. And, the ones not showing cover art in Sage My Movies (actually, it is more than that because there is just a blank space with no way to even select that movie) is related to the ones that do not have the clapperboard icon in Sage My Movies. And, YES, in Colleciton Manager, I DO have coverart for these titles that are not showing up in Sage My Movies. How or why this clapperboard icon/stuidos thing would affect things, I have no idea. I can provide some screen shots if I'm not explaining myself well enough. Just let me know!

Thanks!

[PLUCKYHD]

Originally Posted by Brent94Z

The clapperboard! I knew there must be a name for it but it escaped me at the time. LOL

But, I think our versions of Collection Manager must be different or something is going on because that icon definitely does not indicate, on my setup, that the movie is online or offline. I have over 2000 DVDs with only 175 or so "online". About 95% or so of the collection DOES have the clapperboard icon. I have checked numerous titles and, on my computer, this clapperboard has nothing to do with online vs offline. In the details part of each movie, there is also a clapperboard icon. This icon is labeled "Studios". This is definitely related to the clapperboard icon in the list in that, if there are no Stuidos listed, there is no clapperboard icon in the list. But, this is odd because to me, this is a very "meaningless" piece of data so why put it in the list view... seems to make much more sense to have the disc icon there which would indicate if it is online or offline. I did download a new version from just a few days ago... maybe this was changed?

I am only using Sage My Movies on my Sage server HTPC. And, the ones not showing cover art in Sage My Movies (actually, it is more than that because there is just a blank space with no way to even select that movie) is related to the ones that do not have the clapperboard icon in Sage My Movies. And, YES, in Colleciton Manager, I DO have coverart for these titles that are not showing up in Sage My Movies. How or why this clapperboard icon/stuidos thing would affect things, I have no idea. I can provide some screen shots if I'm not explaining myself well enough. Just let me know!

Thanks!

I was refering to the clapperboards in my interface sorry for the confusion

Try rebuilding your database files an see if the missing ones show up you will have to exit and reenter smm to see changes.

I have no idea what you are refering to in the collection manager I will have to open it and give it a look.

[RandyJohnson]

First off, this is a great plugin.

Is there something that I need to do, other than rebuilding the database, to get changes to take effect on the actual sage server?

I have been reorganizing the MyMovies database by creating a number of "dummy" disc sets (i.e. Lethal Weapon which has 4 disc included) and so forth.

On a PC Client I simply killed the Sage Client and restarted the client and the changes were picked up.

On the PC Server, I have restarted Sage a couple of times and the changes are NOT being reflected. I am still seeing the 4 individual discs as opposed to the multi-disc placeholder.

Other than rebuilding the database, which I have also done a couple of times, is there something else that I need to do?

Is there something in "cache" that I might need to manually delete?

Before installing this plugin on my two extenders I am trying to make certain that the MyMovies database is properly organized.

Is there a plan to change what gets displayed on a placeholder in the "list" view? At present, an incomplete disc data is displayed when the placeholder is selected. Would it be possible to maybe create a wall of disc covers of the discs included in the set as opposed to an incomplete disc.

Lastly, will it be possible to have the second level view be selectable? At present, it looks like the only view is a "coverflow" view.

Again this is a great start and I am looking forward to it being completed with additional support for multi disc sets such as The Band of Brothers.

Also, I am not running Sage as a service on the server.

Randy

[PLUCKYHD]

Originally Posted by RandyJohnson

First off, this is a great plugin.

Is there something that I need to do, other than rebuilding the database, to get changes to take effect on the actual sage server?

I have been reorganizing the MyMovies database by creating a number of "dummy" disc sets (i.e. Lethal Weapon which has 4 disc included) and so forth.

On a PC Client I simply killed the Sage Client and restarted the client and the changes were picked up.

On the PC Server, I have restarted Sage a couple of times and the changes are NOT being reflected. I am still seeing the 4 individual discs as opposed to the multi-disc placeholder.

Other than rebuilding the database, which I have also done a couple of times, is there something else that I need to do?

Is there something in "cache" that I might need to manually delete?

Before installing this plugin on my two extenders I am trying to make certain that the MyMovies database is properly organized.

Is there a plan to change what gets displayed on a placeholder in the "list" view? At present, an incomplete disc data is displayed when the placeholder is selected. Would it be possible to maybe create a wall of disc covers of the discs included in the set as opposed to an incomplete disc.

Lastly, will it be possible to have the second level view be selectable? At present, it looks like the only view is a "coverflow" view.

Again this is a great start and I am looking forward to it being completed with additional support for multi disc sets such as The Band of Brothers.

Also, I am not running Sage as a service on the server.

Randy

Randy you lost me on some of your post I will answer what I could follow.

First If they are showing in the client and not the server correctly are you sure the correct videos option is selected? You need to be viewing boxed only or all videos boxes to see the box sets right. Also are you selecting the ticker on mymovies collection manager? (something like placehold title)

As for drilldown you can have any view and sort you want for drill down into boxsets,genres,filters,folder just hit favorite on any of those groups to bring up the drill down options for that group. (not in the wiki yet but works fine). So basically you can have one that sorts by release date and goes into coverflow and another that sorts by name and goes into wall view. Your choice.

I have no idea what you mean by incomplete disc data? Are you not selecting box sets from the mymovies collection manager? I also add mine and point it to some sort of collection or box set on the mm server. If I am misunderstanding can I see a screenshot?

cheers

[RandyJohnson]

Sorry...

Fixed the first problem by making certain that "All Videos Boxed" was selected.

See the attachment.

I have "Bad Boys" highlighted, which is the placeholder for Bad Boys I and II.

On the right hand side the "Year" and "Date Released" along with the balance of the information titles is meaningless.

I realize that I could place some sort of cover art in the placeholder, but it seems that something more automatic such as the cover art from the included discs might make more sense.

Again thanks for all of your great work and patience.

Randy

[fresnoboy]

Plucky, is it possible to run the the server on a different machine than the sagetv server, and just use the client there? The reason is that my sagetv server is not 64-bit (due to driver issues on the various tuners etc...), and the sql server takes 500+MB of memory. I have 4GB of RAM in the server, but it only sees 3 GB due to the 32 bit issue.

I run SQL server on a different 64 bit server machine, so it'd be easy to add it there, but I don't know about the dependency.

thanks for the fantastic plugin!