Should we kiss eBay good bye?

[SHS]

They starting to be a major rip off now add in S/H fees on top of that, For example a I sold ATV driveline $22.50 + $15 S/H becuase the product I sold was bit on the heavy side.
Final price: $22.50 (Auction) eBay fee -$2.03
Shipping: $15.00 eBay Fee on Shipping -$1.35 even know it really cost me a tab bit more $15.86 to really ship it
Paypal Fee amount: -$1.39
That $4.77 just for eBay and do keep in mind that eBay also owns Paypal

[jerryt]

You would think that pricing would come down as the scale of the company increases.

I don't see how selling items on Ebay is profitable. At least it has not been for me.

It beats throwing items away...

[PLUCKYHD]

When stuff is selling overvalue ie hd300 it still serves a purpose and you can reach out to more buyers than criagslist

[JetreL]

Craigslist is king for items you that you can sell easily sell through them.

[SHS]

Originally Posted by PLUCKYHD

When stuff is selling overvalue ie hd300 it still serves a purpose and you can reach out to more buyers than criagslist

The problem with criagslist is a local classifieds which is harder to sale anything other then car, truck, atv and motorcycle and other misc things that are to big for reg shipping unlike eBay which was more like auction house which dosen't seem be the case now I'm seeing more and more seller switching to buy now only option and free s/h the ever before with less auction to that just turns eBay into one big Super Store with not real bargain sale like before.
eBay Final price fee 9%
eBay Shipping fee 9%
Paypal fee 3%
What really supize me is how little I rev for this driveline vs the last one's I sold some months back usely the sell way more then that I just forgot put it up on ebay which was a backup driveline after cleaning out the tools box after convering the my old Polaris 1996 Sportsman 500 4x4 from U-Joint over to CV becuase I got sick tied of replaceing U-Joints ever year, I don't if people are just not buying any more or move to some where else being ebay is becoming more of $$ for them self and people don't like it or just bad timing on my part with this sale becuase the last driveline I sold went for over $100 eazy on eBay in fact pettey much all Polaris used parts have always sold pettey good on eBay.

[Brent]

I'll save you all the trouble and expense of that pesky ebay and craigslist. Just give it (your HD300) to me for disposal - I'll pay the shipping

[WellThen]

Originally Posted by Brent

I'll save you all the trouble and expense of that pesky ebay and craigslist. Just give it (your HD300) to me for disposal - I'll pay the shipping

Beating Brent's offer, I'll offer you $1 on top of shipping. Who needs eBay?

[ke6guj]

Originally Posted by SHS

eBay Final price fee 9%
eBay Shipping fee 9%
Paypal fee 3%
.

wow that sucks that you have to pay ebay for shipping fees. charge actual shipping fees and you end up losing money on shipping after paying 12% on shipping fees to ebay/paypal. I know why they ended up having to do this, from people selling stuff for a buck and then having $50 in shipping so that they only paid fees on the $1.

I'll have to remember to mark up shipping just so that I can cover that 12% in fees that I will have to pay on that shipping

[sandor]

Originally Posted by jerryt

...It beats throwing items away...

that has always been my thought on ebay. it is a world-wide yard/garage/tag sale. my whole point is to not throw old/unused shit away, and to make beer money at the same time.

[cncb]

Their new fee structure is ridiculous and it irritates me that they have the nerve to describe it as a move to "help buyers" when it is just more of Ebay's greed. The only problem is I don't see any viable alternatives and they know that...

[Zippster]

Havent sold anything in awhile on fleabay, now their gouging you on the shipping too? What a joke, time for a new auction site to put some heat on them.

[heffe2001]

It's funny how people get so upset when they start charging fees on the shipping, but if you look at lots of the auctions on there, the sellers have been gouging on shipping for quite some time (ke6guj's post on this thread pretty much hits the reason on the head, it's most likely a direct response to the actions he mentions). They are in it to make money, not to let someone sell something for a dollar, them make .10-.15 cents, and then the buyer pay 50$ to ship something that should cost 5$.

99% of my auctions are done free shipping, and I add the cost that I think it'll ship for to the opening bid, so I've been paying that percentage since I've been using ebay, so welcome to my world folks, lol.

[flavius]

On eBay you are much better off as buyer, that's no secret. However, if you sell volume the fees etc are lower. All this buyer emphasis has led to a sharp increase in feedback extortion, as my wife tells me who has been a Powerseller for several years now.

[JetreL]

I sell on Amazon a bunch and that has worked out pretty well for both parties. But Ebay is king if it's something that you are looking to unload. But like you said their model isn't set up to support the average "Cleaning out the Basement" seller and make a profit.

The old extenders are selling like hot cakes now though and with the markup there is profit to be had. I am just sad now that I didn't buy 30 a while back for a project that I was working on... That would of been decent turn around in investment.

[PosterBoy]

Speaking of EBay...

SHS, Any reason why you might want to do this?

Originally Posted by thestig

Taken from the bid list of one of the cancelled auctions:
Explanation: Sorry, apparently I'm not allowed to sell the software so I updated the listing.

I'm also curious to know how anyone can know for sure this was the result of Google's action.

Originally Posted by cncb

I can explain this one because it was my listing bundling the licenses with the hardware. I removed the licenses from the listing due to a message from SHS (an admin on this forum) warning/threatening lawsuits if I sold the licenses. I don't think he/she works for Sage/Google and was likely exaggerating but one thing I don't want is any trouble from a company like Google.

http://forums.sagetv.com/forums/show...6&postcount=41

[JetreL]

He's just being a jerk on a power trip would be my take.

[SHS]

PosterBoy if they wish to do it on eBay then by all means let them go for it but like said before just don't come cry to me becuase I just give them a heads warning on what could happing or should say what can happing after I have all been down that road before and belive me it no fun dealing with it later on.
But it up to Jeff after he still has that rigth to do so even know he sold it off to google that not problem any software that was sold before the buy out still under SageTV name not Google but if where me I would just sent email rigth to eBay customer support and there legal department and more likey you get ban.

Originally Posted by JetreL

He's just being a jerk on a power trip would be my take.

Who being a jerk ?.

[PosterBoy]

SHS

For the record I never said you were being a jerk, I was just trying to get clarification on what your intent was in sending the message. It sounds like it was a friendly warning and that's all it was.

Also for the record I am not ebaying my sage system. I am in it for the duration

[JetreL]

Originally Posted by SHS

Who being a jerk ?

Originally Posted by PosterBoy

Also for the record I am not ebaying my sage system. I am in it for the duration

You are right I did and in all fairness maybe I am being a bit overzealous but you can’t have your cake and eat it too. In some forums he has posted that SageTV and he (SHS) are both scanning Ebay for licenses being sold. And he is using very strong words such as; you are going to get sued for posting the licenses and I am scanning Ebay for them.

He is a moderator on this board which carries some additional status other than us troglodytes so when he types there may be some confusion, of if this is an official position of SageTV/Google that they are going to start suing their userbase for filling a need?

This is standard economics. When a product becomes scarce there becomes a grey market to provide the product with what inventory was previously in the market before hand. I have no doubt Google has not seen this behavior before in past mergers so this is nothing new.
If SHS is just being nice and I am misreading the message he is sending because of assumptions or the obvious language and grammar/spelling barrier then I apologize. If not then I ask he clarify that he “is” or “is not” speaking on the part of SageTV/Google.

No biggie either way it’s all Ones and Zeros when you boil it down.

[SHS]

Originally Posted by JetreL

You are right I did and in all fairness maybe I am being a bit overzealous but you can’t have your cake and eat it too. In some forums he has posted that SageTV and he (SHS) are both scanning Ebay for licenses being sold. And he is using very strong words such as; you are going to get sued for posting the licenses and I am scanning Ebay for them.

He is a moderator on this board which carries some additional status other than us troglodytes so when he types there may be some confusion, of if this is an official position of SageTV/Google that they are going to start suing their userbase for filling a need?

This is standard economics. When a product becomes scares there becomes a grey market to provide the product with what inventory was previously in the market before hand. I have no doubt Google has not seen this behavior before in past mergers so this is nothing new.
If SHS is just being nice and I am misreading the message he is sending because of assumptions or the obvious language and grammar/spelling barrier then I apologize. If not then I ask he clarify that he “is” or “is not” speaking on the part of SageTV/Google.

No biggie either way it’s all Ones and Zeros when you boil it down.

Yes it my grammar/spelling barrier which I never been good at and I apologize if miss standing me and no I'm not speaking on the part of SageTV nor Google.