Sage playing the visually impaired audio track

[jnmfox]

Using MakeMKV I ripped the blu-ray versions of Battleship and MIB3 with the HD audio and AC3 tracks. When I play the files via Sage I get the visually impaired track. If I switch from the HD track to the AC3 track and then back to the HD track it goes away and I get the normal HD audio. In addition when I play the .mkv via VLC it doesn’t play the visually impaired track so it has something to do with Sage. I installed and configured ffdshow via the missingremote guide to enable HD audio.

Anyone else experience this or have any suggestions?

[MattHelm]

I had the same problem on some Blu-Rays I ripped. I re-did them, and all was OK, but I forget what I had to do. I'm 99% sure it was a setting in MakeMKV that fixed it.

(maybe I ripped the lossless only, then used the batch audio program to make the AC3 track?, and then it was OK???)

[jnmfox]

Originally Posted by MattHelm

I had the same problem on some Blu-Rays I ripped. I re-did them, and all was OK, but I forget what I had to do. I'm 99% sure it was a setting in MakeMKV that fixed it.

(maybe I ripped the lossless only, then used the batch audio program to make the AC3 track?, and then it was OK???)

I re-ripped them and same issue. What setting(s) did you change? I need both the HD and the AC3.

[jnmfox]

Anyone else have thoughts on this. I find it strange that VLC will play the file correctly on the first try but I have to switch back and forth between the audio tracks in Sage for file to play correctly.

[Fuzzy]

Which AC3 track are you ripping. Most likely, there isn't an AC3 track that is normal audio. The majority of BluRays on the market contain the English audio in a DTS-MA track with DTS core, then any special feature audio tracks - hearing impaired, commentary, etc - are AC3.

The only way to get your English normal track in AC3 is likely to convert it from either the DTS-MA, or the DTS Core. In MakeMKV, the DTS Core will be listed as a sub-item of the DTS-MA, NOT as a different audio track.

[jnmfox]

Originally Posted by Fuzzy

Which AC3 track are you ripping. Most likely, there isn't an AC3 track that is normal audio. The majority of BluRays on the market contain the English audio in a DTS-MA track with DTS core, then any special feature audio tracks - hearing impaired, commentary, etc - are AC3.

The only way to get your English normal track in AC3 is likely to convert it from either the DTS-MA, or the DTS Core. In MakeMKV, the DTS Core will be listed as a sub-item of the DTS-MA, NOT as a different audio track.

It plays the visually impaired audio with the DTS-HD track, which is the track I want. If I switch from HD to AC3 then back to the HD track the visually impaired audio goes away.

It plays correctly the first time in VLC.

I've ripped it twice with the same results using makeMKV.

Any other thoughts? Just seems wired to me, never happened till MIB3 and Battleship.

[Fuzzy]

That is a problem on the sagetv end. For some reason, it doesn't always choose the right track, even if it SAYS it's selected to the DTS-MA track, for some reason it is actually playing the AC3 track. Is there a reason you WANT the visually impaired track? if you don't need it, simply don't rip it, and then sage will have no choice but to play the right one, as it will be the only one there. I have seen this a couple times, and never did track down WHY sage was playing the wrong one - I just limit my rips to what I actually want, and it just works.

[gplasky]

There is a setting in Detailed Setup for HD Audio to either enable HD Audio and play the True-HD and DTS-HD/MTS audio or disable it and it will play it in AC3 and DTS.

Gerry

[jnmfox]

Originally Posted by Fuzzy

That is a problem on the sagetv end. For some reason, it doesn't always choose the right track, even if it SAYS it's selected to the DTS-MA track, for some reason it is actually playing the AC3 track. Is there a reason you WANT the visually impaired track? if you don't need it, simply don't rip it, and then sage will have no choice but to play the right one, as it will be the only one there. I have seen this a couple times, and never did track down WHY sage was playing the wrong one - I just limit my rips to what I actually want, and it just works.

I don't need the visually impaired track. I want the HD audio for our HT room and I need the AC3 track for our extender in the family room connected directly to the TV (no AVR to decode the HD audio track).

Those are the only two tracks I selected (DTS-MA & DD) in MakeMKV but I still get the visually impaired track.

[BobPhoenix]

Originally Posted by jnmfox

I don't need the visually impaired track. I want the HD audio for our HT room and I need the AC3 track for our extender in the family room connected directly to the TV (no AVR to decode the HD audio track).

Those are the only two tracks I selected (DTS-MA & DD) in MakeMKV but I still get the visually impaired track.

You need to convert the DTS-MA track to AC3 and drop the existing DD track if you want to use it that way. You could try this app to automate that.


Edit see link on download goes to megaupload which is of course out of business so here is the last file I downloaded from somewhere (not sure where) last September.

Edit2 file is too big to upload here will try downloads section

Edit3 here is the link to the downloads section for the app. Hope mikep doesn't mind. Not sure where I got it but suspect it was linked in another post on the forum somewhere hope they don't mind either.

[Fuzzy]

Originally Posted by jnmfox

I don't need the visually impaired track. I want the HD audio for our HT room and I need the AC3 track for our extender in the family room connected directly to the TV (no AVR to decode the HD audio track).

Those are the only two tracks I selected (DTS-MA & DD) in MakeMKV but I still get the visually impaired track.

That's what I suspected - there IS no standard AC3 track on that disk. The main audio track is most likely a DTS-MA HD Audio track, with a standard DTS Core. Those are the only tracks you'll want to be working with. If you TV doesn't decode the DTS core, (which I believe can be selected as a separate track in MakeMKV, than the conversion process is the only way to get what you want. (Unless you use an HD300, which can encode the AC3 from pretty much any source).

[MattHelm]

Originally Posted by Fuzzy

Which AC3 track are you ripping. Most likely, there isn't an AC3 track that is normal audio. The majority of BluRays on the market contain the English audio in a DTS-MA track with DTS core, then any special feature audio tracks - hearing impaired, commentary, etc - are AC3.

The only way to get your English normal track in AC3 is likely to convert it from either the DTS-MA, or the DTS Core. In MakeMKV, the DTS Core will be listed as a sub-item of the DTS-MA, NOT as a different audio track.

Thanks, yes, that is what was incorrect with mine, and know I know why they did it.

[jnmfox]

Originally Posted by Fuzzy

That's what I suspected - there IS no standard AC3 track on that disk. The main audio track is most likely a DTS-MA HD Audio track, with a standard DTS Core. Those are the only tracks you'll want to be working with. If you TV doesn't decode the DTS core, (which I believe can be selected as a separate track in MakeMKV, than the conversion process is the only way to get what you want. (Unless you use an HD300, which can encode the AC3 from pretty much any source).

Ah, lightbulb!

Is there a way remove the track? I thought I saw a tool on the forms at one point. I guess re-ripping may be the most straight forward.

I do use an HD300. I looked to change the audio out when I switch from pairing it with an AVR to just my TV. Didn't realize I had to go into the device settings and not the settings while connected to my Sage server.

[Fuzzy]

mkvmerge should be able to manipulate/remove the track, or like you said, you could just rerip it.