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Old 07-12-2004, 01:59 AM
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Unhappy SageTV + USB-UIRT + DISH 301 *Problems*HELP

( im pretty new to this pvr stuff )

I'm having problems getting my sageTV to change the channel on my Dish 301 receiver. I have the USB-UIRT. What seems to happen is if i choose channel 110 ( FoodTV =P ) from the Live Guide the UIRT flashes once ( no input from reciever ) on the second flash it imputs a 1 .. then on the 3rd flash is does nothing. If i choose channels 120..121 .. 122 etc.. the receiver will not receive anything from the UIRT flashes.

I have tried to program remote codes and i also have downloaded some config IR files that supposidly work with the 301 but i'm having no luck getting sage to change the channel for me.

I also have installed Girder and downloaded a template for sage and learned some commands but other than that i'm at a lost.

Any help is greatly appreciated.

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Old 07-12-2004, 08:48 AM
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i'm having a simlar problem - in Sage i choose channel 614, UIRT flashes thrice quickly and the receiver switches to channel 472.
I've tried from within Sage by learning the remote and also tried a template ir file.
Haven't really tried to troubleshoot or play with Girder yet but i'm hoping someone will be able to save me the pain
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Old 07-12-2004, 01:34 PM
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Re: SageTV + USB-UIRT + DISH 301 *Problems*HELP

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Originally posted by neukraze
( im pretty new to this pvr stuff )

I'm having problems getting my sageTV to change the channel on my Dish 301 receiver. I have the USB-UIRT. What seems to happen is if i choose channel 110 ( FoodTV =P ) from the Live Guide the UIRT flashes once ( no input from reciever ) on the second flash it imputs a 1 .. then on the 3rd flash is does nothing. If i choose channels 120..121 .. 122 etc.. the receiver will not receive anything from the UIRT flashes.

I have tried to program remote codes and i also have downloaded some config IR files that supposidly work with the 301 but i'm having no luck getting sage to change the channel for me.

I also have installed Girder and downloaded a template for sage and learned some commands but other than that i'm at a lost.

Any help is greatly appreciated.

Thank You,

greg
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I have somewhat the same problem...

I will select a channel, the USBUIRT will Flash 3 times. Sometimes I will get one digit of the channel appear on the STB's screen, sometimes not.

I have tried re-installing the PVR250 thereby re-installing a new DEVICE for the USBUIRT with no luck. I read the thread about changing the delay in the irremote.ini file, but I think that was an old thread because the .ini file is not the same as was suggested in the thread.

Anyone have any ideas on how to get this fixed? The spousal unit will start slapping me around if she misses any more of her shows..


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Old 07-12-2004, 04:11 PM
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I think you mean ir file not ini file which should be in Program Files\Frey Technologies\Common\RemoteCodes\

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Old 07-12-2004, 04:19 PM
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I think you mean ir file not ini file which should be in Program Files\Frey Technologies\Common\RemoteCodes\

DOH!

Maybe that was my problem...

I was looking at the C:\windows\irremote.ini file.

Thanx SHS I'll look into that...

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Old 07-12-2004, 04:58 PM
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I think you mean ir file not ini file which should be in Program Files\Frey Technologies\Common\RemoteCodes\
Well, it turns out it wasn't my problem...

Here is the first few lines of the file...


DISH2 0 0 0 600 800
0 0000 0048 0000 0011 0017 0163 0016 00A3 0017 0062 0016 00A3 0017 00A3 0016 00A3 0017 0062 0016 00A3 0017 00A3 0016 00A3 0016 0062 0016 00A3 0016 00A3 0016 00A3 0016 00A3 0017 00A3 0016 00A0
1 0000 0048 0000 0011 0017 0163 0017 00A3 0016 00A3 0016 00A3 0016 0062 0016 00A3 0016 00A3 0016 00A3 0016 00A3 0016 00A3 0017 0062 0016 00A3 0017 00A3 0016 00A3 0016 00A3 0016 00A3 0016 00A0


Now, according to one thread (Channel up/dn) it said the 3rd and 4th number of the first line was the delay values..

Well, I took it as an error and I edited the 4th and 5th numbers of the first line. 600 and 800....

I tried values from 50 on up to 2000. No luck I could tell it was changed by the speed of the flashes of the UIRT, but I still got the same effect. Only one number of the three was shown from the STB.. Every once in a while, I would get 2 numbers (IE channel 322 would show 3 and 2) but that's it... It seems that 3 and 2 and 1 were the only #s that would show. For example when I did 534, nothing would show up. Same for like 675...


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Old 07-12-2004, 05:26 PM
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Try DISH2 0 0 3 6 100
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Old 07-12-2004, 05:35 PM
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Try DISH2 0 0 3 6 100
Nope..


Here is how it looks...

I push OK to change the channel to 344.

Within about a half sec or so, I see the flashes on the UIRT.

About a sec or 2 after that, a '4' appears in the channel changing box on the screen from the STB.


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Old 07-12-2004, 05:44 PM
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I hope you are edit then and you are restart SageTV?
You could try this
56000 411 3 600 1000
56000 0 3 1000 800
if not eles try adding
RepeatCount 10

if nothing eles see this post try the ir file there http://forums.sage.tv/forums/showthr...&threadid=6093
or here http://forums.sage.tv/forums/showthr...&threadid=2102

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Old 07-12-2004, 05:54 PM
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Originally posted by SHS
I hope you are edit then and you are restart SageTV?
You could try this
56000 411 3 600 1000
56000 0 3 1000 800
if not eles try adding
RepeatCount 10

if nothing eles see this post try the ir file there http://forums.sage.tv/forums/showthr...&threadid=6093
or here http://forums.sage.tv/forums/showthr...&threadid=2102
Yep...

I close sage. edit the .ir file and then restart...

I'll try those others.

Much thanx


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Old 07-12-2004, 06:20 PM
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I hope you are edit then and you are restart SageTV?
You could try this
56000 411 3 600 1000
56000 0 3 1000 800
if not eles try adding
RepeatCount 10

if nothing eles see this post try the ir file there http://forums.sage.tv/forums/showthr...&threadid=6093
or here http://forums.sage.tv/forums/showthr...&threadid=2102
SUCCESS!!!!!!!!!!!!

I added the first one 56000 411 3 600 1000

No luck..

Then I added the REPEATCOUNT 10 and it worked perfectly!!

Thanx so much, SHS!! I have been fiddling with this for over a week!! You are da man!!


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Old 07-12-2004, 10:51 PM
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Talking woOp! it works!

Hi guys, i just got back from a long day at work and checked out the thread and modified the .ir file as SHS and Myth2Sage were editing. And ta-da! works.. Thanks guys!
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Old 07-12-2004, 10:53 PM
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Transmit Speed

Also, is there a way to speed up the time between when i change the channel in sageTV and the UIRT transmission to the set-top box?

thanks,

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Old 07-13-2004, 05:30 AM
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Re: Transmit Speed

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Also, is there a way to speed up the time between when i change the channel in sageTV and the UIRT transmission to the set-top box?

thanks,

neukraze:
If I understand your question correctly, the 3rd and 4th number in that IR file has to deal with the timing in milliseconds.

As an aside to SHS, is there a thread somewhere that explains what each of the digits in that first line of the .ir file do?

Thanx once again.

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Old 07-13-2004, 05:40 AM
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hey guys, easy way to fix dish 301 tuning problem is to change this value in the properties file from 2 to 4.

irtune_repeat_factor=

works like a charm after that.
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Old 07-13-2004, 05:50 AM
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hey guys, easy way to fix dish 301 tuning problem is to change this value in the properties file from 2 to 4.

irtune_repeat_factor=

works like a charm after that.
What exactly will that do??

The reason I ask is I am wondering if Dish 301 is a generic format. I have an HTS 4500 Dish Receiver but I wonder if, for SAGE purporses, it's considered a 301.

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Old 07-13-2004, 07:47 AM
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Well, I had the same problems, and that was my solution. I have a bell 3100 (same as dish 301) and had the same tuning problems you described. After a number of days trying different .ir files I came across the repeat count setting. I believe it was glbrown that found it, can't find the post. But after changing that setting in sage all my tuning problems were fixed. I believe the setting changes the frequency that the signal is sent. With that setting changed and using my original .ir file, works every time.
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Old 07-13-2004, 08:15 AM
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thanx dman

My 2 dish boxes continue to run flawlessly.
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Old 07-13-2004, 08:34 AM
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thanx dman

My 2 dish boxes continue to run flawlessly.
No, Thank you. I was pulling my hair out trying to figure out my tuning problem before I came across your post.
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Old 07-13-2004, 12:11 PM
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Unless i'm confused - am I ? probably not...maybe...

I see two solutions here -
1. add repeatcount=10 in the ir file
2. set irtune_repeat_factor=4 in the properties file

Is the effect of the two approaches identical ? If yes, then i guess the ir file would be better as it allows the setting to be specific to the device ?
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