V9 and Plugins

[hb4]

My Sage server PC crashed and I've installed Sage V9 on a different PC. Went to install the Commercial Detector plugin and got a file error. A little searching and discovered that the BinTray site went away and that the SageTVPlugins.xml calls BinTray for downloads. Then I discovered the SageTVPluginsV9.xml page on GitHub.

The 'new' SageTV server is a Windows7 machine that had been running Sage9 in 2017, so I removed everything from the Programs file except WIZ.bin and installed the latest V9 over it (9.2.6).

How can I install Plugins at this point?

Edit: Post #36 on this thread gives a hint.... Now it looks like I need to figure out how to download the XML file.

Originally Posted by JREkiwi

By default, there are a large number of plugins that are pointing to the now defunct bintray. The V9 repository has been updated to include all plugins and updated download locations for the currently available plugins.

I didn't change the version on the plugins copied to the V9 repository as that would cause everyone with the plugin already installed to get notified of an updated version, however the V7 repository takes precedence. Change this line in sage.properties as a workaround

sagetv_repos/v7/local=SageTVPlugins.xml
to
sagetv_repos/v7/local=SageTVPluginsV9.xml

John

Edit #2: Here is an excerpt from my Sage.Properties file and one below from sagetv_0.txt

Sage.properties:

sagetv_repos/v7/local=SageTVPlugins.xml
sagetv_repos/v7/md5=http\://download.sagetv.com/SageTVPlugins.md5.txt
sagetv_repos/v7/url=http\://download.sagetv.com/SageTVPlugins.xml
sagetv_repos/v9/local=SageTVPluginsV9.xml
sagetv_repos/v9/md5=https\://raw.githubusercontent.com/OpenSageTV/sagetv-plugin-repo/master/SageTVPluginsV9.md5
sagetv_repos/v9/url=https\://raw.githubusercontent.com/OpenSageTV/sagetv-plugin-repo/master/SageTVPluginsV9.xml

sagetv_0.txt:

Sat 11/6 12:49:40.414 [PluginRepoUpdater@d2fa99] Local plugin repository file's checksum matches server's, no need to download a new one for SageTVPlugins.xml
Sat 11/6 12:49:40.423 [PluginRepoUpdater@d2fa99] Downloading new SageTVPluginsV9.xml file from https://raw.githubusercontent.com/Op...VPluginsV9.xml
Sat 11/6 12:49:40.430 [PluginRepoUpdater@d2fa99] Download requested for files server=https://raw.githubusercontent.com/OpenSageTV/sagetv-plugin-repo/master/SageTVPluginsV9.xml src=null dest=SageTVPluginsV9.xml
Sat 11/6 12:49:41.552 [PluginRepoUpdater@d2fa99] ERROR with file download of:javax.net.ssl.SSLException: Received fatal alert: protocol_version
Sat 11/6 12:49:41.560 [PluginRepoUpdater@d2fa99] ERROR failed downloading https://raw.githubusercontent.com/Op...VPluginsV9.xml file.
Sat 11/6 12:49:41.569 [PluginRepoUpdater@d2fa99] Analyzing plugin repository XML file: SageTVPlugins.xml

So Sage accepts the V9 installed V7 xml file but can't find the V9 version. So per above, I trick it by making it download the V9 version and think it's downloading the V7 one? OK, I'll try that.

I see Sage complains about a java protocol version. Sage reports java 7 in System Information. I read elsewhere that some plugins need java 8. Do I need to chase this down as well?

Edit 3: This is an excerpt from the SageTVPluginsV9.xml file that was down loaded after I made the sage.properties edit above:

<Package>
<PackageType>JAR</PackageType>
<Location>http://dl.bintray.com/opensagetv/sagetv-plugins/CommercialDetector/CommercialDetector-1.16.zip</Location>
<MD5>E8BB4C913A7A30E62D90B6E302C1929A</MD5>
</Package>

Sage is still looking for the file at bintray if it's following this xml file...

Here is what sagetv_0.txt reported after making the sage.properties change:

Sat 11/6 17:03:46.907 [SageTV@14f0b41] Starting all core plugins...
Sat 11/6 17:03:46.914 [PluginRepoUpdater@15e6e9f] Downloading new SageTVPluginsV9.xml file from http://download.sagetv.com/SageTVPlugins.xml
Sat 11/6 17:03:46.923 [SageTV@14f0b41] Done starting core plugins.
Sat 11/6 17:03:46.930 [PluginRepoUpdater@15e6e9f] Download requested for files server=http://download.sagetv.com/SageTVPlugins.xml src=null dest=SageTVPluginsV9.xml
Sat 11/6 17:03:46.932 [PSNATMGR@e92226] Starting UPnP NAT Manager...
Sat 11/6 17:03:47.156 [PluginRepoUpdater@15e6e9f] Download remoteSize=594929
Sat 11/6 17:03:49.078 [FileDownload@17b4346] Read -1 bytes from the URL stream; download has completed
Sat 11/6 17:03:49.122 [FileDownload@17b4346] VF.submitJob(VFJob[InactiveFile r=0.0 t=0 file=null ifn=SageTVPluginsV9.xml])
Sat 11/6 17:03:49.127 [FileDownload@17b4346] Download completed for files server=http://download.sagetv.com/SageTVPlugins.xml src=null dest=SageTVPluginsV9.xml abort=false
Sat 11/6 17:03:49.219 [PluginRepoUpdater@15e6e9f] Checking to see if the plugin repository file SageTVPluginsV9.xml needs to be updated using MD5 URL: https://raw.githubusercontent.com/Op...VPluginsV9.md5
Sat 11/6 17:03:50.740 [PluginRepoUpdater@15e6e9f] ERROR trying to retrieve the B66373F72EFB303541A2E56433306FCB file of:javax.net.ssl.SSLException: Received fatal alert: protocol_version
Sat 11/6 17:03:50.744 [PluginRepoUpdater@15e6e9f] Downloading new SageTVPluginsV9.xml file from https://raw.githubusercontent.com/Op...VPluginsV9.xml
Sat 11/6 17:03:50.747 [PluginRepoUpdater@15e6e9f] Download requested for files server=https://raw.githubusercontent.com/OpenSageTV/sagetv-plugin-repo/master/SageTVPluginsV9.xml src=null dest=SageTVPluginsV9.xml
Sat 11/6 17:03:50.772 [PluginRepoUpdater@15e6e9f] ERROR with file download of:javax.net.ssl.SSLException: Received fatal alert: protocol_version
Sat 11/6 17:03:50.775 [PluginRepoUpdater@15e6e9f] ERROR failed downloading https://raw.githubusercontent.com/Op...VPluginsV9.xml file.
Sat 11/6 17:03:50.778 [PluginRepoUpdater@15e6e9f] ERROR failed downloading https://raw.githubusercontent.com/Op...VPluginsV9.xml file.
Sat 11/6 17:03:50.781 [PluginRepoUpdater@15e6e9f] Analyzing plugin repository XML file: SageTVPluginsV9.xml
Sat 11/6 17:03:50.864 [PluginRepoUpdater@15e6e9f] Done processing plugin repository XML file[SageTVPluginsV9.xml] repositoryVersion=1.0.2063
Sat 11/6 17:03:50.866 [PluginRepoUpdater@15e6e9f] Analyzing plugin repository XML file: SageTVPluginsV9.xml
Sat 11/6 17:03:50.960 [PluginRepoUpdater@15e6e9f] Done processing plugin repository XML file[SageTVPluginsV9.xml] repositoryVersion=1.0.2063

[jusjoken]

First, all v9 versions will automatically download the current v9 repo without any property changes.

Second, SageTV will only use the v9 repo if the plugin version in it is a higher version number.

Thirdly, I have fixed a few of the v9 plugins as it seems some were moved from bintray but the version was not increased.

I can look at this one in the morning and see if it is one of those...it looks like it might be.

And there were some issues with Java 7 and https links in the v9 repo some Java 8 is likely needed.

K

[tvmaster2]

I feared the worst when updating from W7, 32bit to W10, 64 bit, but nearly every plug-in I use was available for installation. Better than I expected.

[hb4]

Originally Posted by jusjoken

First, all v9 versions will automatically download the current v9 repo without any property changes.

Second, SageTV will only use the v9 repo if the plugin version in it is a higher version number.

Thirdly, I have fixed a few of the v9 plugins as it seems some were moved from bintray but the version was not increased.

I can look at this one in the morning and see if it is one of those...it looks like it might be.

And there were some issues with Java 7 and https links in the v9 repo some Java 8 is likely needed.

K

I may not have been clear... V9 downloaded and installed and ran fine in a Windows 7 directory. I even got to the point where I could use Channels DVR as a tuner. I discovered that Comskip wasn't working and when the Commercial Detector plugin did not load I went looking for the reason why. The only thing I could find was the post about changing the properties file, so I tried that.

The reason I'm doing this is that my remote Xfinity connected SageTV server PC crashed last week so I am trying to re-install it on a different (old) system to try to test the ChannelsDVR approach and if successful, use it at my remote location where there is no cable TV service;

The SageTVPluginV9 was not present in the SageTV/SageTV directory until I made the change to the properties file.

I'm happy to go back and start from scratch and install everything again if that seems like it will fix things. If there's something I need to do to ensure I'm doing a clean install it's no problem. I will start building a new server with a new MB, W10, etc in a few days.

It wasn't clear to me whether the Sage installer also installs java or I need to do that myself. I assume from what you wrote, I need to do that and perhaps that will allow the CD plugiin to install.

[jusjoken]

I do not believe you should have to edit the properties to make it work but it did seem that some of the version numbers were out of sync in the V9 repo so I have fixed that. I have seen it the the V9 repo does not download right away on a new install and at times a restart of the server kicks it off or perhaps I needed more patience. Either way, in theory, the latest V9 repo should have CD working and all downloading from Github rather than bintray.

If you (or anyone) get a bintray file error then please post the error so we can get the V9 repo corrected where possible.

Hope it works for you. Either way, let us know.

K

[hb4]

Thanks, JJ;
I cycled SageTV service after your SageTVPluginsV9 update, installed Java 8 and the CD plugin installed just fine; Thank you for all the work you do for SageTV!

When I re-install Sage in the new server I'll leave the properties file as-is.

Bill VV

[gordyp]

I am getting the attached error on my new Windows 11 client even after making the change to sage.properties and rebooting the server...

Thanks!

[jusjoken]

Originally Posted by gordyp

I am getting the attached error on my new Windows 11 client even after making the change to sage.properties and rebooting the server...

Thanks!

I have updated the SREUI (and SRE Client UI) plugins with new version numbers so they should download from Github rather than Bintray.

I would suggest you revert the .properties changes you made and restart to get the latest plugin list and try the install again.

K

[gordyp]

Originally Posted by jusjoken

I have updated the SREUI (and SRE Client UI) plugins with new version numbers so they should download from Github rather than Bintray.

I would suggest you revert the .properties changes you made and restart to get the latest plugin list and try the install again.

K

Thanks - that fixed that, but I did find another plugin from tmiranda pointing to Bintray - please see the attached.

Thanks!

[hb4]

To finish up my part of this thread....

Originally Posted by jusjoken

I do not believe you should have to edit the properties to make it work....
K

I converted sagetv_repos/v7/local=SageTVPluginsV9.xml
in the sage.properties file back it's original state as....
sagetv_repos/v7/local=SageTVPlugins.xml