I watched my first ripped Blu-ray movie on SageTV

[popechild]

Originally Posted by toony

I may be wrong here but as far as I know the extender has nothing to do with the DTS audio be it HD or not. It is serving it to your extender then from there it needs to be decoded by your amplifier via the digital (optical) output on the extender.

I have multiple SD DVDs that contain only a DTS track, and both Sage and my receiver handle them without a problem. But for some reason Sage doesn't like the downmix DTS track on the BD rip. I know I can use eac3to to convert the audio to ac3, but I'd really rather keep the DTS if there's any way to do it.

[Rob]

Originally Posted by popechild

I have multiple SD DVDs that contain only a DTS track, and both Sage and my receiver handle them without a problem. But for some reason Sage doesn't like the downmix DTS track on the BD rip. I know I can use eac3to to convert the audio to ac3, but I'd really rather keep the DTS if there's any way to do it.

I do not know about downmix DTS, but I have not had any trouble with DTS-HD tracks on the extender after using the -core option in eac3to to extract the DTS core from the DTS-HD sound track.

[popechild]

Originally Posted by Rob

I do not know about downmix DTS, but I have not had any trouble with DTS-HD tracks on the extender after using the -core option in eac3to to extract the DTS core from the DTS-HD sound track.

Interesting. I'll have to try that next time.

[toony]

I'm more of a videophile than an audiophile, and I am wondering what is the audible difference between DTS-HD and DTS, assuming there are decent speakers used and set up properly.

I know it's hard to put into words, however I am in the market for a new reciever and if it's worth it I'll get it.

[popechild]

Originally Posted by toony

I'm more of a videophile than an audiophile, and I am wondering what is the audible difference between DTS-HD and DTS, assuming there are decent speakers used and set up properly.

I know it's hard to put into words, however I am in the market for a new reciever and if it's worth it I'll get it.

How's this for a poor man's explanation: You know you can have two videos that are both 1920x1080, but one of them looks better than the other because it's encoded at a higher bitrate? It's kind of like that.

I'm not an audiophile either, but it's definitely noticeable to my ear.

[toony]

I get it, Though I suppose your gear would be a huge factor in that. I'll have to check it out in the demo room at the stero shop. But I get it.

[onlydarksets]

Anyone have luck with Hellboy 2? I converted the DTS-HD to AC3 (eac3to), dumped the h.264 stream (eac3to) and then remuxed everything into a MKV container (mkvmerge) using a framerate of 23.976. About 20 minutes in, though, the audio drops sync by about 2 seconds. It's not gradual - one scene it is spot on, and the next it is completely off. I am watching on a HD-100, and every other file has worked fine.

Any thoughts? Thanks!

[MarkV]

I'm still seeing some hesitation/stuttering on the HD200 (mid december firmware - 12/19 maybe? I'd have to check) with mkvs. Nothing like what the HD100 would do for some films, but maybe 5 times in a 2 hour long movie. 4 stutters and 1 gooey artifact. Source was Ironman.
I haven't replayed it to see if the goo was source related. Will check the PS3 to see if it might be the disc itself.

It also very well could be server side interruptions.

[onlydarksets]

Originally Posted by onlydarksets

Anyone have luck with Hellboy 2? I converted the DTS-HD to AC3 (eac3to), dumped the h.264 stream (eac3to) and then remuxed everything into a MKV container (mkvmerge) using a framerate of 23.976. About 20 minutes in, though, the audio drops sync by about 2 seconds. It's not gradual - one scene it is spot on, and the next it is completely off. I am watching on a HD-100, and every other file has worked fine.

Any thoughts? Thanks!

Nevermind - figured it out. The frame rate changes in the middle of the movie, and mkvmerge can't handle it (because you have to specify it up front). tsMuxeR did the trick. I posted a walk through if anyone is interested:
http://onlydarksets.com/2009/01/11/w...sage-extender/

[jmv]

Folks,

I have been using the eac3to / mkvmerge path to create .mkv files with the video (in what ever format it is originally encoded in) and ac3 audio from what ever is the best option on this disk (either ac3 5.1 directly, or encoded based on what of the various HD audio tracks). These all play fine on both my HD200 and HD100. However, most of my PC based clients choke 100%. My personal PC plays back maybe 50% but it also has every codec under the sun (PowerDVD 7 HD/Blu, Arcsoft, Nero HD/blu, Mediaplayer 11 plus a myriad of other things...). I don't want to go off and install all this crap on the clients...since it may only get me to the 50% level anyway! Has anyone figured out what is the minimum / best set of SW or Codec's to install to enable blu-ray based .mkv playback on Windows PC based SageTV clients?

thanks,

mv

[~flatlined~]

if you install eac3to on the clients, wouldn't that provide the minimum level of required codecs? Since it is able to decode/transcode/pack into the mkv in the first place.

Of course, if you are using some of the more specialised codecs eac3to supports, maybe you would need those too, eg. DTS-HD 7.1 support or something, rather than just using -core, but then they don't come with eac3to anyhow.

Personally, I have installed only eac3to, and mkv toolkit for mkvmerge and it's gui, and use the default codecs. Oh and suprip to convert subs.

I don't really use pc clients any longer .. my clients work, but I use extenders. So far, no problems with my bluray -> mkv rips, nor HDdvd -> mkv.

The only problem I experience is I can't reliably get 1080p video + DTS 5.1 in high quality to the extenders, even from usb, at a high enough speed to play without stuttering on busy scene changes. So I am usually reducing to 5.1 ac3 -core in mkvs.

[jmv]

flatlined,

Thanks, I'll give the EAC3to and mkvmerge a shot on one of my non-functional clients and see what happens...on your DTS problem...do you want to give me an example of a movie scene where you have problems. Although i use AC3, I could re-mux to DTS and test out if that works on my system w/o stuttering...

mv

[Deacon Crusher]

Also, what are you using for playback?

I find mplayer works better/more reliably and lets me use more features in my mkvs (like chapters) then Windows Media Player.

[chrishallowell]

Ok, here's what I want to do. Will it work?
(Running XP, no extenders or client)
1. Install UDF 2.5 (Since I have XP)
2. Have AnyDVD HD running.
3. Use BDInfo to figure out which playlist to use.
4. Use tsmuxer to read that playlist from the Bluray drive.
Select the video stream(AVC) and audio stream(TrueHD)
Write to .m2ts
5. Have SageTV use the powerdvd codecs to decode AVC
6. Have SageTV use the ffdshow audio codecs to decode TrueHD

I think I have a pretty good handle on steps 1-4. I'm just not sure if I can get SageTV's settings right so that it uses the PowerDVD video codec and the ffdshow audio codec.

I shouldn't need to install Haali splitter should I?

[vexhold]

I just read though this thread and have started ripping my Blu-Rays (Thanks Guys). I started a thread which has a list of movies you guys have either had problems with or have got working. If you could, stop by this thread and post any additional movies that are good or bad.


Thanks

[vexhold]

Helen, You were able to get Cars working using the Playlist...

I am having troubles.

I believe I have found the right one (00024.mpls) it hase MPG2 video and AC3 audio.

The problem is, no matter where I try to set the output to, it always gives me the error....

File name C:\Documents and Settings\Administrator\My Documents\CARS_USA\BDMV\STREAM\00030.m2ts already exists.

Thats not the path I am trying..


Anyone know what the dealio is?

[HelenWeathers]

Originally Posted by vexhold

Helen, You were able to get Cars working using the Playlist...

Cars is not one of the movies that I have worked on yet.... Maybe you'll figure it out by the time I get to it.

[vexhold]

My bad, it was Tmiranda who did cars..

But surely you have done a BD that has multiple m2ts files and needed to use a playlist?

Never seen this happen? I must be doing something wrong.

[HelenWeathers]

Originally Posted by vexhold

But surely you have done a BD that has multiple m2ts files and needed to use a playlist?

You need BD Info:
http://www.softpedia.com/get/Others/...g/BDInfo.shtml

It will tell you which playlist to load into TSMuxer.

EDIT: To avoid the error, send the output file to another location or different name.m2ts

[MeInMaui]

Is there any advantage to remuxing back into m2ts vs. ts? Thanks.

Aloha,
Mike