No video playback on HD-200 from ripped DVDs

[bott3322]

Thought for sure I'd find a solution in the forums....

Brand new to SageTV and have been enjoying it for a month now. Plus the wife is happy. No small thing that.

I've never gotten ripped DVDs (DVDneXtCopy Ultimate to vob) to play on my HD-200 extender--only a title bar appears, followed by a dark screen.

They all playback fine through SageTV Media Center on a Windows XP-based Core2Duo PC.

• Using SageTV 6.5, and the latest non-beta release of HD-200.

• All TV recordings, music, and ripped DVD files are stored on an external USB drive connected to the SageTV PC.

• Made no progress changing video/audio decoder setup options (still trying to learn this stuff), though managed to lockup SageTV and the extender a few times.

• Music, recorded TV, and online video playback on HD-200 are all fine. Only ripped DVDs are giving me grief.

Thanks in advance for your time!

[gplasky]

Originally Posted by bott3322

Thought for sure I'd find a solution in the forums....

Brand new to SageTV and have been enjoying it for a month now. Plus the wife is happy. No small thing that.

I've never gotten ripped DVDs (DVDneXtCopy Ultimate to vob) to play on my HD-200 extender--only a title bar appears, followed by a dark screen.

They all playback fine through SageTV Media Center on a Windows XP-based Core2Duo PC.

• Using SageTV 6.5, and the latest non-beta release of HD-200.

• All TV recordings, music, and ripped DVD files are stored on an external USB drive connected to the SageTV PC.

• Made no progress changing video/audio decoder setup options (still trying to learn this stuff), though managed to lockup SageTV and the extender a few times.

• Music, recorded TV, and online video playback on HD-200 are all fine. Only ripped DVDs are giving me grief.

Thanks in advance for your time!

Find another application. DVDnextCopy never worked for me on the HD200. Analyzing the rip with VideoRedo shows the video as not being compliant. Personally I use DVDFab and I know many people use DVD Shrink. Try one of those and your rips will work fine with the HD200. I could never convince the author there was an issue with DVDnextCopy.

Gerry

[bott3322]

Originally Posted by gplasky

Find another application. DVDnextCopy never worked for me on the HD200. Analyzing the rip with VideoRedo shows the video as not being compliant. Personally I use DVDFab and I know many people use DVD Shrink. Try one of those and your rips will work fine with the HD200. I could never convince the author there was an issue with DVDnextCopy.

Gerry

Thanks Gerry. I'm frustrated and embarrassed to say how much I spent on DVDnextCopy only to find that it doesn't do the very thing I bought it for. Should have done more homework first.

Some follow-up questions, if you don't mind.

I haven't had time to try one of the other two packages, but it appears that DVD Shrink is freeware and DVDFab is retail.

Before I spend more money, do you prefer the retail DVDFab over the free DVD Shrink for features or performance reasons?

You mentioned that DVDnextCopy is not compliant. Do you mean compliant as compared to an industry standard, or in terms of HD200 compatibility?

Is there a chance a future HD200 firmware update may accommodate the quirkiness of DVDnextCopy?

Do you think trying to reason with DVDnextCopy author for a fix is a waste of time?

Thanks again!
Bill

[gplasky]

Originally Posted by bott3322

Thanks Gerry. I'm frustrated and embarrassed to say how much I spent on DVDnextCopy only to find that it doesn't do the very thing I bought it for. Should have done more homework first.

Some follow-up questions, if you don't mind.

I haven't had time to try one of the other two packages, but it appears that DVD Shrink is freeware and DVDFab is retail.
Correct

Before I spend more money, do you prefer the retail DVDFab over the free DVD Shrink for features or performance reasons?
DVD Fab has options to transcode it to iPod or other portable media formats. It can also handle Blu-Rays.

You mentioned that DVDnextCopy is not compliant. Do you mean compliant as compared to an industry standard, or in terms of HD200 compatibility?
All I know is when I opened the rip in VideoRedo TV Suite it said it wasn't a compliant video stream and QuickFix would fix it. So from that I figured it was the output of DVDnextCopy was the problem and not the HD200. Plus every other product works fine except for DVDnextCopy.

Is there a chance a future HD200 firmware update may accommodate the quirkiness of DVDnextCopy?It could. Like I said I didn't really pursue it with Sage

Do you think trying to reason with DVDnextCopy author for a fix is a waste of time?It may be worth pursuing again.

Thanks again!
Bill

The other product everyone tends to use is AnyDVD HD.

Gerry

[Folkboat]

Had the same issue, DVD's played on SageTV server not on HD200.

Rebooted HD200 (UNPLUGGED IT).

Worked after that!

[bott3322]

Ok, thanks for the help, all.

I'll try power cycling the HD200, and ripping with another tool. Once I have some results, I'll report back.

[valnar]

AnyDVD + DVD Decrypter (with decryption stuff turned off) is the most compliant.

[sam99]

I just wanted to mention that DVD Fab has a free version on their website called DVDFab HDDecrypter. It is a locked down version that only disables the extra processes like ipod conversion and the like. It will still burn full disc with menus or allows you to just burn the main movie, which is what I do. It has only run into a couple discs that it could not do alone, and running AnyDVD with it took care of those. Running them together is actually not normally advised as they can apparently conflict, so I have only done it the couple of times I had to. Works great for me, but I do not go through a lot of the post-burn "washing" that some of the members do here to their recordings.

For the IPOD, I found a free converter that does that for me and I use it to burn cartoons for my kids to watch on the Odyssey monitor until I get around to building my Vanputer

[bott3322]

Originally Posted by gplasky

The other product everyone tends to use is AnyDVD HD.

Gerry

I have confirmed that power cycling the HD-200 does not help. Still can't play DVDs from the hard disk via HD-200.

So now, I'm researching other ripping software packages. Definitely will try before buying.

[bott3322]

I was able to successfully rip DVDs using SlySoft's AnyDVD and DVDClone2. I'm still in the 21-day free evaluation period for these products and find they work very well together. They're quite intuitive and they get the job done.

Now ripped DVD movies playback just fine on the HD-200 media extender.

I tried ripping using the free DVD Decrypter (without AnyDVD) on those archive DVDs which had been burned with broadcast TV recordings sourced from my old DVR. They, too, would *not* play on the HD-200. So, AnyDVD (or a product like it) seems to be the key for me.

I opened a support ticket with DVDnextCopy. Their initial reply indicated the issue has been transferred internally (twice) to other support personnel. They promise to help, but it's been a few days with no meaningful reply. We'll see.

Thanks to everyone for your help and suggestions!
Bill