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Old 11-18-2009, 09:02 AM
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Any Issues with Sage and Win 7

Getting ready to re-do my Sage server which is having hardware problems and am probably going to use Win 7 Pro (32-bit).

Any issues I should know about?

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Old 11-18-2009, 09:11 AM
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What kind of tv tuners do you have? I just installed Win7 Ultimate a couple weeks ago. My old AverTV MCE500 willl only work if I do the sagetv.exe and service.exe in XP compatability mode. Otherwise, the PC freezes and I have to hard boot .
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Old 11-18-2009, 10:54 AM
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What kind of tv tuners do you have? I just installed Win7 Ultimate a couple weeks ago. My old AverTV MCE500 willl only work if I do the sagetv.exe and service.exe in XP compatability mode. Otherwise, the PC freezes and I have to hard boot .
I have 1x PVR-250 and 2x HDHR. I did a test and all of them work just fine. In fact, I thought it was very cool that the PVR-250 was supported right out of the box with Win 7 (I guess from the Media Center).

I was just wondering if anyone had any bad experiences with Win 7 but it looks like not.

One of the problems you may be having is that Media Center may be competing with Sage for the tuners. You can tell Win 7 not to use Media Center

Open The Group Policy Editor (run..... gpedit.msc) then select "User Configuration/Administrative Templates/Windows Components/Windows Media Center.

Then edit the single item called "Do Not Allow Windows Media Center to Run" to ENABLED.

Reboot the PC and Media Center won't run any more. It might solve your issue.
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Old 11-18-2009, 11:01 AM
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I'll have to check that out. All I did was disable the media center services.
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Old 11-18-2009, 11:14 AM
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In Windows 7 you can just uninstall Window Media Center.

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Old 11-18-2009, 11:25 AM
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I was afraid I might need it for babgvant's new toy if it works out .
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Old 11-18-2009, 12:23 PM
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In Windows 7 it's treated as a Windows component so checking it again will install it. Of course you'll have babgvant's cablecard solution installed on a machine other than your Sage server.

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Old 11-18-2009, 12:46 PM
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Oh, duh. I didn't think of that. I figured it would stay on the same machine.
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Old 11-18-2009, 12:58 PM
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In Windows 7 it's treated as a Windows component so checking it again will install it. Of course you'll have babgvant's cablecard solution installed on a machine other than your Sage server.

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Why would you run it on a different machine?
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Old 11-18-2009, 01:03 PM
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Ok, cool. That's all the confirmation I need, lol.
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Old 11-18-2009, 01:13 PM
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Why would you run it on a different machine?
I thought if you had SageTV server with internal tuners running on the same WIn 7 machine with Media Center and the cablecard tuner you would have issues as far as taking over the tuners. If it's running as a network encoder it is running on a different machine than your Primary SageTV server, isn't it?

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Old 11-18-2009, 01:20 PM
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I thought if you had SageTV server with internal tuners running on the same WIn 7 machine with Media Center and the cablecard tuner you would have issues as far as taking over the tuners. If it's running as a network encoder it is running on a different machine than your Primary SageTV server, isn't it?

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It can run on a separate box, but I think as long as you don't setup MC to use your non-DCT tuners it shouldn't take them.

The box I've been testing on is all-in-one, but it only has DCTs there aren't other tuners in the mix.

You will need to regsvr32 /u some of Sage's filters that cause the MC service to crash (to be clear I think this is an issue w/ MC not Sage).
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Old 11-18-2009, 02:12 PM
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It can run on a separate box, but I think as long as you don't setup MC to use your non-DCT tuners it shouldn't take them.

The box I've been testing on is all-in-one, but it only has DCTs there aren't other tuners in the mix.

You will need to regsvr32 /u some of Sage's filters that cause the MC service to crash (to be clear I think this is an issue w/ MC not Sage).
Good to know. I thought there were issues whether the tuners were configured in WMC or not.

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Anyone have issues with SageTV or SageTV Service spontaneously closing in Windows 7. No error message, no freeze. It can be while watching something or not, but it just suddenly closes. Happens to both SageTV and the SageTV service. Any thoughts?

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Old 01-29-2010, 11:59 AM
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Anyone have issues with SageTV or SageTV Service spontaneously closing in Windows 7. No error message, no freeze. It can be while watching something or not, but it just suddenly closes. Happens to both SageTV and the SageTV service. Any thoughts?

Intel E8500
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Yes happened to me as well every now and then. Nothing in the logs as far as I can tell (I always wanted to investigate this more, but didn't get to that yet...)
I suspect it's related to the "native decoder patch". Are you using that one?
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Old 01-29-2010, 07:11 PM
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Yup...I'll try removing it. It also just started recently. But I've been using patch for a while.
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Old 02-04-2010, 04:23 PM
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It can run on a separate box, but I think as long as you don't setup MC to use your non-DCT tuners it shouldn't take them.

The box I've been testing on is all-in-one, but it only has DCTs there aren't other tuners in the mix.

You will need to regsvr32 /u some of Sage's filters that cause the MC service to crash (to be clear I think this is an issue w/ MC not Sage).
here is the bug with tuner not working in mce after sagetv install ( unreg sagetv codecs does not work )

http://forums.sagetv.com/forums/show...ghlight=reeven

I have this bug for over 1 year, i could not use live-tv in Win7 Mediacenter because of SageTV crappy codecs, live-tv does not start at all in mce.
If i uninstall SageTv then my tuner work ok in MCE( analog tuner, leadtek or philips).
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