P2 Issues

[bialio]

Originally Posted by sflamm

Would it be possible to provide a mechanism to navigate to the weather screen (and back) without adding the weather to the Browser - navigate on demand?

The Home key should take you back to the landing zone where the weather lives. I could think about having a weather forecast view over on the right side in the options menu if you want to check the weather without leaving the screen you are on. I'd be concerned that the options menu is getting kind of crowded though - especially on the Media Browser...

[sflamm]

The cross style navigation is cool, but I haven't wrapped my head around how to make it work :

1) in the same space that the menu is currently in and

I think you can just disable the weather option when the cross is enabled and everybody will be happy.

Perhaps offer a small synopsis box of the weather in the upper right quadrant

2) with menu's of up to 3 levels

The third level is just the same as the horizontal nav. I think the cross should only be used for level 1-2 (displays these at the same time

The Horizontal landing zone IS more or less the same concept - just navigating opposite planes than the cross style.

It is definitely the next best thing... but it has the visibility issue I mentioned previously...

[sflamm]

The Home key should take you back to the landing zone where the weather lives.

Right - understood. That is what I always use to go to the top.

What I was thinking was more of a top level menu entry to check the weather (just like 'Television' but 'Weather')

That way the weather is constantly up and detracting from the beauty of the landing page

I could think about having a weather forecast view over on the right side in the options menu if you want to check the weather without leaving the screen you are on. I'd be concerned that the options menu is getting kind of crowded though - especially on the Media Browser...

I completely agree - the options bar is not a good place to put things in general because they are hidden from view. Anything that will be used with frequency should have a place out in the open where everyone can see it.

The options under the options bar are definitely less frequent now (good). Weather would be somewhat frequent and is a top level item that people look for...

Also completely agree - bad idea to crowd the option bar. Keep it streamlined like the rest of your design which is why it is so effective.

[Naylia]

My 2 cents

Edit - crossbar could be slightly skinnier than the current Top Level "Television" item that would give the impression of the currently selected one popping out while making the crossbar smaller. You'd have to play with it to see what you like best aesthetically.

[sflamm]

My thought is to use the 'cross' on all the menu entries in the 'vertical' mode.
Add an extra entry for weather - and for this entry just show the weather...

See attached.

[JonTom]

Originally Posted by bialio

So it's the 'enter' key when you browsed down to a track?

I've found the same thing.

Pressing the OK key on my remote (whatever that's mapped to) opens the music player screen, but actually plays Live TV in the background. Doesn't seem to matter where in the music menus I am. If I hit the PLAY button, or use the Options menu to Play From Here, it works.

[bialio]

Yep. Happens fit me too. It's fixed for the next release.
btl.

[sflamm]

I'm adding this menu to LandingMenu_2a.xml in the next release:

Code:
<menu type="Picture" name="phoenix.menu.lz.memories" label="MEMORIES">
<menuItem name="phoenix.menu.lz.memories.photos" label="Pictures" visible="true">
<description>Browse the photo library (default UI)</description>
<eval>AddGlobalContext("gCurCustomSTVFilePath", GetCurrentSTVFile() )</eval>
<eval>AddGlobalContext("gTargetMenuName", "Browser - Photos")</eval>
<eval>AddGlobalContext("gReloadCustomSTVOnHome", true)</eval>
<eval>AddGlobalContext("gReloadCustomSTVWithoutConfirm", true)</eval>
<eval>LoadSTVFile(GetDefaultSTVFile())</eval>
</menuItem>
<menuItem name="phoenix2.menu.lz.video.family" label="Family Videos" visible="true">
<description>Family Videos</description>
<eval>AddGlobalContext("DefaultView", "phoenix.view.default.homevideos" )</eval>
<screen name="Media Browser" />
</menuItem>
</menu>

Right - so just like in Phoenix1...

Phoenix1 has an editor that you can use to 'hide' menu items... it basically sets the visible="true" to " visible="false" on a menu or menu item.
Are you going to have such an option?

To change the menu manually right now I have to edit the source files in STVs/Phoenix/Menus. I dont really like that as my changes will be overridden each time I take a Phoenix2 update.

The SageTV/userdata/Phoenix/Menus was designed to contribute custom menus without editing the originals. However, the problem is that in order to do so I need to 'hide' the originals not to be displayed... which requires manually editing the originals which means that change can be overridden in an update (chick and egg).

How do you suggest to modify menus without manually modifying the original?

[bialio]

There's a landing zone editor in P2. 2nd option from the top in the Options menu I think...

[sflamm]

For those interested - attaching the new menu configuration.
Just copy it over your current STVs\Phoenix\Menus\LandingMenu_2a.xml

It simply hides the old menu and puts the new menu "MEMORIES" in place.

[sflamm]

Is it possible to 're-skin' the default STV user experience for Photos to match the P2/P1 style? - it currently really sticks out like a sore thumb...

[bialio]

Yep. You can use any skin for the default UI - however there weren't that many of them developed. I'm partial to 'Serenity' myself

[sflamm]

What is the easiest way to make the default STV Pictures experience (that you are leveraging for the Pictures in P2) to match the rest of the experiences' look and feel (i.e the P2 Television) that you have developed for P2?

[sflamm]

There seems to be some Issues/Bugs with the Family Videos Browser.

Attaching 2 examples (each shows P1 versus P2).

Example 1:

1 Folder with 18 programs

P1: displays both folders and programs correctly with preview images
P2: display of folders/programs is confusing missing preview images

Example 2:

3 Folders with 37 programs

P1: displays folders/programs/preview images correctly
P2:

- says 3 'programs' instead of 'folders/items' and displays 8 (max displayable) actual programs out of the 37 which is very confusing


I suggest that the folders be labeled 'items' and the programs only 'programs'. The folder should be given an icon and the programs should be indented/separted in such a way to show the relationship (like in P1)

[bialio]

Originally Posted by sflamm

What is the easiest way to make the default STV Pictures experience (that you are leveraging for the Pictures in P2) to match the rest of the experiences' look and feel (i.e the P2 Television) that you have developed for P2?

Something along these lines?

[sflamm]

Right but using the default P2 theme and using the folder view VFS

[sflamm]

There's a landing zone editor in P2. 2nd option from the top in the Options menu I think...

Found it - very nice.

Can you add a feature for 'export menu'/'export menu item'? That will make it much easier to work on fragments in the userdata directory...

[sflamm]

Any chance you can add this functionality?

http://forums.sagetv.com/forums/showthread.php?t=60408

[bialio]

I'm not planning on adding a picture viewer at this point to phoenix - it's a lot of work and the one in the default STV works pretty well, all things considered.

[Evil_Attorney]

Noticed a bug last night that I haven't seen mentioned yet. The current recordings isn't always updating properly for me. For example, on Sunday, I checked the current recording and saw that "North America" was recording, which it was. Last night, when a show started recording, the current recordings menu item appeared, but it still showed "north America" was recording, when it was actually The Daily Show. The only way I was able to correct this was by using the refresh views item in the setup menu.