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View Poll Results: What is your Dream SageTV Client
The HD300 extender client is perfect for my needs 24 17.39%
HD300 extedender for 2015+ (4K, h265, Altmos, Hi10p) 83 60.14%
Linux/Windows PC NUC 19 13.77%
Kodi x86 Windows or Linux client 9 6.52%
Android Kodi client 7 5.07%
Android SageTV client 44 31.88%
Speciality device (FireTV, Apple, Roku, game console) 45 32.61%
Plex/UPnP client on any device is fine 14 10.14%
Also support DRM streaming (eg Netflix, Hulu, Spotify) 56 40.58%
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Old 04-02-2015, 09:26 AM
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For those of you happy with HD300s, see this:
http://forums.sagetv.com/forums/showthread.php?t=62052

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For those of you happy with HD300s, see this:
http://forums.sagetv.com/forums/showthread.php?t=62052

Ooh, I missed the last batch.
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OK, the PI2 just jumped way up my list, apparently OpenELEC (Kodi) can now decode TrueHD and DTS-HD MA on the Pi:
http://forum.kodi.tv/showthread.php?tid=211501&page=87

I don't really care if it's bitstream or decoded as long as it's full quality lossless.
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after taking a HD200 on a recent test-hotel trip, there needs to be a small extender, travel size, with just HDMI and composite outs, built-in wifi and an app so you could use your smart phone as the remote control.
Plex and PlayOn would be nice as well, and rounded corners so you can grab it out of a small bag without nicking the flesh.
Love that you can use the old 200 and 300's on the road.
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after taking a HD200 on a recent test-hotel trip, there needs to be a small extender, travel size, with just HDMI and composite outs, built-in wifi and an app so you could use your smart phone as the remote control.
Plex and PlayOn would be nice as well, and rounded corners so you can grab it out of a small bag without nicking the flesh.
Love that you can use the old 200 and 300's on the road.
So you mean an android phone with an HDMI port and Plex? I use it all the time - it's great!
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Old 04-05-2015, 02:45 PM
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So you mean an android phone with an HDMI port and Plex? I use it all the time - it's great!
Phone doesn't have a composite out. You'd do better to track down an HD-300, with the dongle cable ...
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So you mean an android phone with an HDMI port and Plex? I use it all the time - it's great!
don't think mine has hdmi or composite, but it does have wifi and plex. 1/2 way there!

seriously, something the size of Roku 3 would work
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don't think mine has hdmi or composite, but it does have wifi and plex. 1/2 way there!

seriously, something the size of Roku 3 would work
HDMI is a requirement on any phone I buy anymore. It's the perfect travel media device. (Many newer devices will likely come with an MHL capable USB port instead of a discrete HDMI though)
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HDMI is a requirement on any phone I buy anymore. It's the perfect travel media device. (Many newer devices will likely come with an MHL capable USB port instead of a discrete HDMI though)
thanks, I'll check that out, maybe it actually is active. could you feed a 720p wall mounted TV?
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Old 04-06-2015, 01:29 AM
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thanks, I'll check that out, maybe it actually is active. could you feed a 720p wall mounted TV?
output resolution likely depends on the device. It simply mirrors the screen. My Droid Razr HD's main screen is 1280x720, so it simply outputs that resolution. Many newer phones have 1920x1080 screens, so I'm sure that's what they output. Either way, any TV with an HDMI port will handle either source fine.
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Old 04-06-2015, 10:03 AM
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...and an app so you could use your smart phone as the remote control.
Do you use the mobile webserver plugin? The interface is available from a web browser, or from within the Phoenix (Android) app. It provides a remote for extenders already.

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...and rounded corners so you can grab it out of a small bag without nicking the flesh.
You say, from experience, as you look at the band-aid on your hand...
Buy a pack of those small, felt/fuzzy bumper pads with the sticky backs and apply to each of the 8 corners.
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don't think mine has hdmi or composite, but it does have wifi and plex. 1/2 way there!

seriously, something the size of Roku 3 would work
Miracast: $60
http://www.microsoft.com/hardware/en...isplay-adapter

I typically use my Windows laptop with mine but even my old Android phones and Tablets seems to be able to broadcast to the Microsoft Wireless Display Adapter. It is a great travel solution and can be used with projectors\HDTV for presentations in meetings as well. (Justification if you have an expense account)

Really just mirrors your screen so anything that you have on your PC or Phone can be streamed to the TV.
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Old 04-07-2015, 04:53 PM
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HDMI is a requirement on any phone I buy anymore. It's the perfect travel media device. (Many newer devices will likely come with an MHL capable USB port instead of a discrete HDMI though)
Any opinion on theses two MHL connection methods? The built-in cables on one are convenient. I couldn't find one that charges the phone while in use, including the Samsung accessory meant to be used with my Galaxy S4. If you know of one that charges simultaneously (Samsung claims theirs does, but user reviews claim it doesn't), please post a link.

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00...A1AMUYYA3CT6HJ

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00...A3P4UZIS42PRQV
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Any opinion on theses two MHL connection methods? The built-in cables on one are convenient. I couldn't find one that charges the phone while in use, including the Samsung accessory meant to be used with my Galaxy S4. If you know of one that charges simultaneously (Samsung claims theirs does, but user reviews claim it doesn't), please post a link.

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00...A1AMUYYA3CT6HJ

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00...A3P4UZIS42PRQV
I honestly don't know anything about MHL other than it's base capabilities. I've used almost exclusively Motorola phones for the last 8 years, which have mostly just had discrete mini-hdmi ports on them. MHL is designed so that the port can output the signal and bring in power at the same time, with the intention being it actually be charged directly by the port on the TV - but with all publicly available 'standards', its up the the device manufacturers to actually implement it correctly for it to work. Which phone you have may impact what it is ACTUALLY capable of.
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Not fond of MHL personally. It was always hit or miss whether the Android device was going to like the MHL adapter selected. Of course, you could always buy the proprietary MHL for 50 to 100 bux.

The Samsung MHL adapter (white) that I purchased does charge the phone - the real problem is that using it with some devices requires the screen of the phone to be on, which can negate the charging feature. I purchased this one:

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00...?ie=UTF8&psc=1

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I'm a big fan of both WiDi and Miracast. My Pust2TV that I got for $35 has come in very handy.

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Not fond of MHL personally. It was always hit or miss whether the Android device was going to like the MHL adapter selected. Of course, you could always buy the proprietary MHL for 50 to 100 bux.

The Samsung MHL adapter (white) that I purchased does charge the phone - the real problem is that using it with some devices requires the screen of the phone to be on, which can negate the charging feature. I purchased this one:

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00...?ie=UTF8&psc=1
which phone do you use it with, and why would the screen being on defeat charging? My Galaxy S4 charges with the screen on I think.
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which phone do you use it with, and why would the screen being on defeat charging? My Galaxy S4 charges with the screen on I think.
I think he meant the charging doesn't keep up with the screen on AND decoding a video. When using the MHL adapter, it's limited to a single pin on the USB for charging, which limits the charging rate.
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I think he meant the charging doesn't keep up with the screen on AND decoding a video. When using the MHL adapter, it's limited to a single pin on the USB for charging, which limits the charging rate.
So I grabbed one of those MHL adapters, Cable Matters, and you may know if this sounds right: it outputs HDMI just fine from the Galaxy S4 to my HDMI tv inputs, however, AC power has to be plugged into the Cable Matters adapter at the same time. Unplug the power cable, and the HDMI output to the TV cuts out.
The phones battery power alone isn't enough to supply a solid HDMI signal?
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The MHL adapter that I linked to will function (with my Pioneer AppRadio2 and Galaxy S4) with or without the power feed. (Note: with the authentic Samsung MHL adapter, not a knock-off that seems to have surfaced in that link).

Fuzzy interpreted correctly for the most part - if I'm in the car navigating, and the phone screen is on full time, the charging via MHL just isn't enough to even hold the original charge over time.

Much of my perceived failure of the MHL adapter lies in the complete failure of Pioneer to release a proper software for what could have been a great car head unit.
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