UPnP (PlayOn) Browser

[VCRUser]

I was able to get a menu to "stick" (possibly I finally figured out the ADM copy mode, which wasn't obvious), but when I invoke it, I get a blank screen. That probably matches what I got when I got the list of PnP servers when trying to set it up, and the PlayOn one said it was "empty." That suggests not (just) an ADM setup issue but that for some reason my PlayOn isn't "talking" to the plugin in the way it expects.

[VCRUser]

I found the following in sagetvclient_0.txt, corresponding to a time-stamp when I tried to invoke the up&p browser. I get a list, which includes the sage server itself, a router (which could host media but isn't being used for that), a Roku stick, and the PlayOn server. When I click on the PlayOn server, the log shows this - obviously showing some errors but I don't know how to interpret them:

Sun 7/2 17:57:44.268 [AWT-EventQueue-0@1977433] UPNP: Found services for device PlayOn: Mediabox2:3
Sun 7/2 17:57:44.268 [AWT-EventQueue-0@1977433] UPNP: Type = X_MS_MediaReceiverRegistrar
Sun 7/2 17:57:44.268 [AWT-EventQueue-0@1977433] UPNP: Type = ConnectionManager
Sun 7/2 17:57:44.269 [AWT-EventQueue-0@1977433] UPNP: Type = ContentDirectory
Sun 7/2 17:57:44.269 [AWT-EventQueue-0@1977433] processOptionsMenu optionsMenu=default:TMIR-837350|OptionsMenu:LoadWait
Sun 7/2 17:57:44.272 [Fork-TMIR-837378@1e32ff6] UPNP: Services.requestChildren: Invoked with SortCriterion...
Sun 7/2 17:57:44.273 [AWT-EventQueue-0@1977433] processUserEvent-UserEvent[anything] evtTime=Sun 7/2 17:57:44.289
Sun 7/2 17:57:44.321 [cling-1223@139ddb1] UPNP: Services Browse.requestChildren: Error message Error: Current state of service prevents invoking that action. Can't parse DIDL XML response: org.seamless.xml.ParserException: java.lang.IllegalArgumentException: Illegal character in path at index 29: http://myserveraddress-and-port/we tv/folderart.jpg?albumArt=true.
Sun 7/2 17:57:44.522 [ReProcessHook@600d1f] processOptionsMenu optionsMenu=default:TMIR-837330|OptionsMenuisplay Message Dialog
Sun 7/2 17:57:47.244 [AWT-EventQueue-0@1977433] processUserEvent-UserEvent[anything] evtTime=Sun 7/2 17:57:47.265

[in the 2nd to last line, an emoticon replaced the two characters [colon]D from the log.]

[JustFred]

Originally Posted by VCRUser

Can't parse DIDL XML response: org.seamless.xml.ParserException: java.lang.IllegalArgumentException: Illegal character in path at index 29: http://myserveraddress-and-port/we tv/folderart.jpg?albumArt=true.

Unfortunately, by munging the actual server/port address in the posting, it's no longer possible for us to see what character is at position 29. I'm going to take a guess and bet that its the space in "we tv". If that's the case, is it possible to change the folder name so that it doesn't contain a space, and see if that works?

[VCRUser]

Yes, the 29th character is the space in "we tv." However, I can't find a folder with such a name (or anything like it) on my system. The only possible candidate would be one of the Xfinity channels available through PlayOn, namely the "we" channel. But that's not something that lives on my system. There are lots of other channels with spaces in their names, so it seems odd that a space should be a problem - but it is indeed the 29th character in the string.

[tmiranda]

Originally Posted by VCRUser

I found the following in sagetvclient_0.txt, corresponding to a time-stamp when I tried to invoke the up&p browser. I get a list, which includes the sage server itself, a router (which could host media but isn't being used for that), a Roku stick, and the PlayOn server. When I click on the PlayOn server, the log shows this - obviously showing some errors but I don't know how to interpret them:

Sun 7/2 17:57:44.268 [AWT-EventQueue-0@1977433] UPNP: Found services for device PlayOn: Mediabox2:3
Sun 7/2 17:57:44.268 [AWT-EventQueue-0@1977433] UPNP: Type = X_MS_MediaReceiverRegistrar
Sun 7/2 17:57:44.268 [AWT-EventQueue-0@1977433] UPNP: Type = ConnectionManager
Sun 7/2 17:57:44.269 [AWT-EventQueue-0@1977433] UPNP: Type = ContentDirectory
Sun 7/2 17:57:44.269 [AWT-EventQueue-0@1977433] processOptionsMenu optionsMenu=default:TMIR-837350|OptionsMenu:LoadWait
Sun 7/2 17:57:44.272 [Fork-TMIR-837378@1e32ff6] UPNP: Services.requestChildren: Invoked with SortCriterion...
Sun 7/2 17:57:44.273 [AWT-EventQueue-0@1977433] processUserEvent-UserEvent[anything] evtTime=Sun 7/2 17:57:44.289
Sun 7/2 17:57:44.321 [cling-1223@139ddb1] UPNP: Services Browse.requestChildren: Error message Error: Current state of service prevents invoking that action. Can't parse DIDL XML response: org.seamless.xml.ParserException: java.lang.IllegalArgumentException: Illegal character in path at index 29: http://myserveraddress-and-port/we tv/folderart.jpg?albumArt=true.
Sun 7/2 17:57:44.522 [ReProcessHook@600d1f] processOptionsMenu optionsMenu=default:TMIR-837330|OptionsMenuisplay Message Dialog
Sun 7/2 17:57:47.244 [AWT-EventQueue-0@1977433] processUserEvent-UserEvent[anything] evtTime=Sun 7/2 17:57:47.265

[in the 2nd to last line, an emoticon replaced the two characters [colon]D from the log.]

Sorry for the delay in responding, I'm on vacation at the moment and the internet is spotty.

I think it's barfing on the space character but I don't know why, the parser should handle that. I may need to update one of the dependencies. (I use a third party JAR to parse the UPnP items.

[VCRUser]

Originally Posted by tmiranda

Sorry for the delay in responding, I'm on vacation at the moment and the internet is spotty.
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Thanks - enjoy your vacation - I don't mind waiting a while.

[j1mb0b]

So, I've just installed this plugin and I'm having some problems with Netflix. It works fine for other PlayOn Channels (e.g. Amazon video). When I select a video to play, I get the buffering message for about a minute, then it fails and says "There was an error playing .....flv. Error (-2): Files selected for playback are no longer on disk". When I go to look for the file, it is there but has zero file size.

Any thoughts?

[tmiranda]

Originally Posted by j1mb0b

So, I've just installed this plugin and I'm having some problems with Netflix. It works fine for other PlayOn Channels (e.g. Amazon video). When I select a video to play, I get the buffering message for about a minute, then it fails and says "There was an error playing .....flv. Error (-2): Files selected for playback are no longer on disk". When I go to look for the file, it is there but has zero file size.

Any thoughts?

Post a log file and I'll have a look.

[j1mb0b]

Weird - it's working today. I changed nothing....

Thanks for the offer of help. I'll take you up on it one day I'm sure

[j1mb0b]

So, I do have another question though. is there any way of enforcing parental controls through this plug in? In Netflix (and SageTV), I have parental controls enabled, but it seems I can play any video though this plugin without having to enter my PIN.

[tmiranda]

Originally Posted by j1mb0b

So, I do have another question though. is there any way of enforcing parental controls through this plug in? In Netflix (and SageTV), I have parental controls enabled, but it seems I can play any video though this plugin without having to enter my PIN.

Glad it is now working. UPnP is generally flaky because there really isn't an exact standard. The UPnP documentation is more like a guideline

Sorry, there are no parental controls. I'm not even sure how I would implement that.

[j1mb0b]

Originally Posted by Fuzzy

Yes, 720p, but you'd have to upgrade SageTV to v9, and set up the custom user-agent to spoof XBMC to get it.

(with any current v9 install, setting custom_user_agent=UPnP/1.0 DLNADOC/1.50 XBMC in sage.properties should cause PlayOn to stream 720p)

So, I'm now struggling with getting HD from PlayOn through UPnP. I tried the trick posted above by Fuzzy, but it still pulls video from Netflix & Amazon at 720x404. Is there something else I missed? If I watch through the PlayOn desktop app, it comes in as HD

[egeller]

Originally Posted by j1mb0b

So, I'm now struggling with getting HD from PlayOn through UPnP. I tried the trick posted above by Fuzzy, but it still pulls video from Netflix & Amazon at 720x404. Is there something else I missed? If I watch through the PlayOn desktop app, it comes in as HD

I read your post and curiosity got the best of me. You are correct, and I am seeing that also. I am doing some research and playing around with this but I'm not finished yet.

There are posts on Playon and Kodi forums that make the same complaint. If I understand what they're saying, it seems to be an architecture issue in Playon. It emulates / uses a web browser to download content. Because of that, content providers are not providing anything better than the 720p we are seeing.

For example, Amazon states that the connection must support HDCP before they'll provide 1080p. Your smart TV may be able to display 1080p, using an Amazon app, but Playon can't do it.

For more information, an interesting read is the Playon forum entry at this link.

If I find out anything more, I will post it here. I have to admit that I've not used the Playon app to view anything to see if it's different. Maybe I'll try that next.

[Deano]

A new question to this (slightly) old thread.

I'm working (slowly) towards getting rid of cable. Seeing the lifetime PlayOn sale recently, I decided $20 was too good to pass up. I now have PlayOn installed on the same machine as the SageTV (v9 64-bit) system.

I have everything in PlayOn setup just fine, and installed the plugin "UPnP (PlayOn) Browser" by tmiranda. I've rebooted the system.

Here's my question: I don't see the UPnP Browser. I'm using Gemstone, and see that there is some special installs in the first post to this thread. Was wondering if that is still necessary, giving that this thread started a few years ago.

Any help would be appreciated. Thanks.

EDIT: I was looking around, and see that the additional plugin that was installed "UPnP Support" by tmiranda plugin, has some settings. I updated those with things like recording directory. Still don't know how to request PlayOn to record something from within SageTV.

[tmiranda]

Originally Posted by Deano

A new question to this (slightly) old thread.

I'm working (slowly) towards getting rid of cable. Seeing the lifetime PlayOn sale recently, I decided $20 was too good to pass up. I now have PlayOn installed on the same machine as the SageTV (v9 64-bit) system.

I have everything in PlayOn setup just fine, and installed the plugin "UPnP (PlayOn) Browser" by tmiranda. I've rebooted the system.

Here's my question: I don't see the UPnP Browser. I'm using Gemstone, and see that there is some special installs in the first post to this thread. Was wondering if that is still necessary, giving that this thread started a few years ago.

Any help would be appreciated. Thanks.

EDIT: I was looking around, and see that the additional plugin that was installed "UPnP Support" by tmiranda plugin, has some settings. I updated those with things like recording directory. Still don't know how to request PlayOn to record something from within SageTV.

I've never tried the plugin using Gemstone. I think you need to add a dynamic link on one of your menus. If you are using the standard STV the browser can be found in the "Online Services" from the main menu.

[Deano]

Thanks for the reply.

I'm not sure what a dynamic link even is. I really like the Gemstone UI, and would hope to stay with that.

Is there some setting / copy method I could use to get this to work?

Can I jump between the standard STV and Gemstone, just to try it out? Or will that contaminate / change all my existing settings?

[tmiranda]

Originally Posted by Deano

Thanks for the reply.

I'm not sure what a dynamic link even is. I really like the Gemstone UI, and would hope to stay with that.

Is there some setting / copy method I could use to get this to work?

Can I jump between the standard STV and Gemstone, just to try it out? Or will that contaminate / change all my existing settings?

I just don't know enough about Gemstone to be helpful. Maybe you can ask in the Gemstone thread?

[UgaData]

Originally Posted by Deano

Thanks for the reply.

I'm not sure what a dynamic link even is. I really like the Gemstone UI, and would hope to stay with that.

Is there some setting / copy method I could use to get this to work?

Can I jump between the standard STV and Gemstone, just to try it out? Or will that contaminate / change all my existing settings?

I suspect you have already tried, but in case someone else is curious;

Yes, you can failrly easily jump between the Gemstone STV and the default Sage STV.

From Gemstone:
Setup>Detailed Setup>Advanced>Revert to the default STV:

From Default STV:
Gemstone>Revert to Gemstone STV (close enough)

[jusjoken]

Originally Posted by Deano

Thanks for the reply.

I'm not sure what a dynamic link even is. I really like the Gemstone UI, and would hope to stay with that.

Is there some setting / copy method I could use to get this to work?

Can I jump between the standard STV and Gemstone, just to try it out? Or will that contaminate / change all my existing settings?

And if you go into options on the main menu and select menu manager i think there is a copy option that flips you to the non gemstone menu to select a menu item to copy to gemstone. have not done it in years but it should be simple enough.

k

[Deano]

OK. Just spent some time in the original menu looking at the UPnP Browser and the PlayOn setup. I love it!

With regard to copying from the original menu in menu manager, I've never spent much time in this for Sage, and would request a little guidance. I've been looking / searching in this forum, but so far have struck out on any help.

I don't know how to copy as jusjoken mentions. I'll keep fumbling around, but if someone has a little guidance, I'd really appreciate it.

EDIT: I FOUND THE SOLUTION! jusjoken gave the details a couple (after today, a few) years ago.

Originally Posted by jusjoken

Go into options from the main menu and select menu manager then select options again and enable copy mode. With that enabled the main menu will display the sage default with other menus the plugins added and you can copy those to gemstone menu.

k

That's what I love about this forum....lot's of information and willingness of folks to help