Fanart For Movies With Same Title & Fanart Cleanup

[Taddeusz]

I'm not sure if this is Phoenix's fault or that of BMT. However, when will we be able to have separate fanart for movies that have the same title but were produced in different years. For example, I have the two movies with the filenames:

• Cinderella (1950).mkv
• Cinderella (2015).mkv

Their fanart folders both end up being Movies/Cinderella and when viewed from SageTV there's a good chance that the wrong fanart will be displayed for either movie. I realize I can set a default poster and background but why should that even be necessary? Why can't we have separate folders for each production of a title? I don't want to NEED to micro manage fanart for my movies. It needs to just work.

On a separate note, when will fanart cleanup be addressed? Granted, fanart files aren't generally that huge. However, they do tend to build up since there is no method to automatically purge orphaned fanart like is available in Plex. Currently my fanart folder is 7.5GB. I'm fairly certain that could be smaller if I were to clean it out but time is too precious and life is too short to devote time to such a task.

[Fuzzy]

The first is a known issue. The fanart folder structure was something the community developed here nearly a decade ago I think, and the multiple year movies was simply an oversight at the time. It's certainly not the only oversight, and Stuckless has mentioned a desire to overhaul that functionality in the Phoenix core. Lately, when he is dealing with sage, it's been more with the actual open source code itself, as well as compiling and distributing the builds and plugin repository, not phoenix related work.

[stuckless]

My guess is that this will get addresses with someone with the programming skills finds it annoying enough to fix it

Both of those things are on my list... but other things keep taking priority. This weekend I did a number of enhancements to Phoenix related to fanart/metadata searching, but nothing related to these issues.

The year issue isn't that hard to solve, but, if the expectation is that when we solve it, we need to migrate existing fanart, then that's a bigger issue. Adding the year to fanart source dir is pretty simple to do, and likely only needs a small change in phoenix. The bigger issue is how to manage the gigs of orphaned fanart after that, and the re-downloading, or re-copying the new fanart to the new location, etc, but only do it once.

If we moved to a folder fanart model, where every media item gets it's own folder, then clean up would be easier... ie, when the item is deleted, the folder is removed, and the fanart is removed.

[Fuzzy]

Originally Posted by stuckless

If we moved to a folder fanart model, where every media item gets it's own folder, then clean up would be easier... ie, when the item is deleted, the folder is removed, and the fanart is removed.

The current central fanart structure still works well, just needs some modernization tweaks. I envision a ton of duplication if each item had it's own folder, though I may be wrong. A maintenance task could be done to periodically purge unrelated items. For me, the bigger 'issue' is the random hash naming of the items placed IN the fanart folders... I honestly don't know why the files get given such random filenames when they are downloaded, instead of human-readable ones.

Do we even have a writeup of the current central fanart 'spec' around anymore?

[Taddeusz]

I honestly wish I had time to work on this myself. With kids of 6 and 3 it's difficult right now to find any time that isn't devoted to them or house upkeep.

[stuckless]

Originally Posted by Fuzzy

The current central fanart structure still works well, just needs some modernization tweaks. I envision a ton of duplication if each item had it's own folder, though I may be wrong. A maintenance task could be done to periodically purge unrelated items. For me, the bigger 'issue' is the random hash naming of the items placed IN the fanart folders... I honestly don't know why the files get given such random filenames when they are downloaded, instead of human-readable ones.

Do we even have a writeup of the current central fanart 'spec' around anymore?

I found this...

https://github.com/stuckless/sagetv-...tSupport2.java

which also links to this...

https://forums.sagetv.com/forums/sho...2&postcount=35

Creating a "new" way to handle lookups would not be that hard... YOu just need to implement the
https://github.com/stuckless/sagetv-...tSupport2.java

ANd determine "how" you want to resolve fanart artifacts...

Originally Posted by Taddeusz

I honestly wish I had time to work on this myself. With kids of 6 and 3 it's difficult right now to find any time that isn't devoted to them or house upkeep.

Yeah, been there...

[bialio]

I frequently purge my fan art manually. Just delete it and then trigger the 'pre-cache fanart' functionality in one of the Phoenix UI's and it goes and downloads everything for the current set of media. This usually works pretty well, very few hiccups...

[wayner]

There is also a bug that happens where, for some reason, there is no default fanart set for some media files. I have seen this happen on multiple systems on V7 and V9 - when you go into BMT there is Fanart for the files, such as a poster for a movie, but it doesn't show the thumbnail in the top right of the web UI, nor does the fanart show up in the SageTV UI, such as a movie wall in Gemstone. Once you set one file as default it tends to work, but there are certain files where even this doesn't always work. This may possibly be just a Gemstone issue but I think it is an overall Phoenix issue.