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Old 11-16-2009, 11:02 AM
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Last version of Cyberlink PowerDVD codec usable with SageTV?

In this thread the use of PowerDVD codecs with SageTV is discussed. There was a change in version 8 or version 9 where Cyberlink prevented the codec being used in other applications.
The thread is inconsistent on exactly which version is the last one that provides the ability to work with SageTV. One posting said that V8 works and V9 doesn't, but another says that the capability was disabled in V8.

Can anyone tell me which versions of Cyberlink PowerDVD codec can be use with SageTV for H.264 hardware acceleration?

If you have PowerDVD Version 8.x, working, please reply and let me know exactly what version you have.
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Old 11-16-2009, 11:57 AM
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h.264 hardware acceleration worked in PowerDVD 8. But there was somewhere along the line the update patches broke it. I'm not sure exactly which version I have but it has remained unpatched and working. I'll have to check tonight.

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Old 11-16-2009, 12:45 PM
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So the DirectShow support was removed in a downloaded update to PowerDVD 8?

I assume it would not be an issue with original V8 CD, since V9 was also updated, and presumably there would be no more V8 CDs released after V9 is released?

Put another way, if I purchase an original Cyberlink V8.1 CD, I could be confident I would have the DirectShow capable version? (Of course I would not allow it to do any updating)
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Old 11-16-2009, 01:20 PM
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I think the product that ensures compatibility is the HD264 pack - you may want to contact CyberLink Pre-Sales support regarding your questions.
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Old 11-16-2009, 01:50 PM
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I had the same trouble with the newer TMT codecs. All I had to do with reregister it with directshow.
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Old 11-16-2009, 08:40 PM
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For Mpeg2, the Cyberlink codec works. You can even just register it alone, instead of installing PDVD 9. That said, with Sage using EVR on Win 7, I noticed blurring during pans...went back to the tried and true VMR9/Nvidia codec.

While the TMT 3 codecs can be registered, they won't connect and your machine is using something else. You need to do a tapdance with TMT2 & TMT3 for TMT 3 codecs to work. See vladd's post in the TMT3 thread at AVS.

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Old 11-17-2009, 12:03 AM
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Honestly, if you are on Win7, I'd give the Microsoft decoders a try. I find them MORE than adequate... And.. they're included...
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Old 11-17-2009, 01:04 PM
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Forget Cyberlink for h.264 I had some issues with it. (Around 20% CPU). I downloaded and installed MPC - Video Decoder - It's now around 2% on h264 videos!

Here you go:
http://sourceforge.net/projects/mpc-hc/files/

You want to expand "Stand Alone Filters - win32" -> Filters v1.3.1249.0 _ 32 bits -> 1.3.1249.0.(x86).zip

Extract the ZIP all you really need is the "MPCVideoDec.ax" drop that sucker in c:\windows\system32\

And register it. goto DOS c:\windows\system32 and enter "regsvr32 MPCVideoDec.ax" or double-click it and find regsvr32 in c:\windows\system32 I believe.

You'll also need to install Haali Media Splitter if you don't already have that installed.
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Old 11-21-2009, 01:38 PM
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I purchased and installed PowerDVD 8.1. I'm trying to find the H.264 codecs.

DirectShow Filter Manager shows these Cyberlink codecs:



None of these look like H.264...

Also I tried to run the PowerDVD program to test and see how well it did on its own playing an H.264 file from the HD-PVR. However, I cannot figure out how to get it to play a file on the hard disk. There is no apparent means to simply play a media file.

Here's what the UI looks like:


It is nothing more than an emulation of a physical DVD player. It is as if the concept that video could exist in any form other than a physical DVD has never occurred to Cyberlink.
Is there some trick to get it to play a file? Drag and Drop does not work.
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Old 11-21-2009, 04:42 PM
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I'm not sure about the filters, but when I was using powerdvd it was called the AVC filter.

Also, that interface looks nothing like the powerDVD 8.1 interface that I recall. Maybe it's some stripped down OEM version? Where did you purchase this copy?
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Old 11-23-2009, 09:43 AM
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The Cyberlink H.264 Decoder is only available in the Deluxe and Ultra versions of PowerDVD. It is not available in the regular version.
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Old 11-23-2009, 09:48 AM
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But does it work with sage?
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Old 11-23-2009, 09:53 AM
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But does it work with sage?
True, probably any version you get now is going to have the H.264 decoder disabled anyway. The only way to get it now is to buy the decoder by itself and that's not really that great of a deal.

Personally, I really don't really like the Cyberlink H.264 decoder. It doesn't work correctly and can wrongly report 1920x1088 rather than the properly cropped 1920x1080.
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Old 11-23-2009, 10:04 AM
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Which one do you use? I've tried TMT, but heard it doesn't work even if it shows up in Sage's list.
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Old 11-23-2009, 10:10 AM
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Which one do you use? I've tried TMT, but heard it doesn't work even if it shows up in Sage's list.
I now use the built-in Windows 7 decoder. It seems to be pretty good. Works well. Although I had to switch to using ffdshow for VC-1. The Windows 7 decoder doesn't work with avisynth.
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Old 11-23-2009, 10:19 AM
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Crap, I'm still stuck on XP til I get new tuner cards. My older avertv card locks the PC up when I put win7 on it .
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Old 11-23-2009, 10:28 AM
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With regard to PowerDVD 8, I have 8 Ultra I'm using on my Windows 7 system for Blu-ray playback. I've upgraded it to the latest patch so I can't use the H.264 decoder. But I do know that that the latest patch for 8 Ultra that allows you to use the H.264 decoder is 2217. Any patch after that will disable it.
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Old 11-23-2009, 05:28 PM
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If you need a h264 decoder try the Divx h264 decoder. It works with non-divx h264 videos and best of all it is free!

http://download.divx.com/divx/DivXInstaller.exe
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Old 11-23-2009, 05:51 PM
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I use divx for regular ol' avi's. Didn't know it didn't h264, too. It won't show up in the list to choose from in Sage, though.
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Doesn't show up in the default list, because Sage has to specifically add it. You can choose in sage to show ALL filters, and you should be able to find it.
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