TV Recordings Moved to Videos

[razrsharpe]

the web interface allows you to manually update/edit a show's metadata... i think that was what paul was getting at. However, i dont think it will allow you to move a video from the video library into the TV library... so it wont do what you need it to do (if i follow your problem correctly)

[Paul H]

You can change an imported file to archive, which worked fine for my recordings.

[razrsharpe]

Originally Posted by Paul H

You can change an imported file to archive, which worked fine for my recordings.

interesting... and then the file shows up in the My TV section? like any other sage recorded TV Show...? Didnt know that.. thanks for the tip.

[pseudonym]

@Paul and razrsharpe,

Are you stating this other webserver *also* has the metadata feature -- and it can be used *instead of* BMT?

Or are you stating there is a way to install BMT into it?

Sorry if I'm being daft, I'm still not clear what you're proposing.

Thanks and regards,
--pseudonym

[razrsharpe]

were saying that you can use the webserver to update an items metadata. BMT is a complete automated metadata/fanart collection tool (that also has a separate web front end). using the webserver you can bring up the screen and manually touch up metadata. See the attachment for an example of what were talking about. You can not combine the two in any way... except for the fact that they both use jetty to deploy their webservices in.

[pseudonym]

OK I'm back again and need some more help...

I've got BMT webserver running in Jetty Starter (thanks Sean!), and I've got razrsharpe's .bat files, though I don't know what to do with them :-)

I wanted to do a fresh install of Sage and then use BMT to identify my recordings and my videos to Sage. So that's what I did LOL

I did something wrong... now I have all videos and all recordings, showing up in Sage both as recordings *and* as videos.

I don't care that the videos ended up as Sage recordings, but I'd like to get all of the recordings out of the videos section.

Is there a way to get out of this mess quickly and easily? If not I'll just do another fresh install and try again with BMT to sort it out.

Thanks and regards,
--pseudonym

[dkopp]

I am basically in the same boat. Clean installed many times. I have a few questions:

1. How can I import TV eposides i.e. all episodes of Seinfeld into SageTV recorded TV?

2. During my multiple reinstalls I would clean out all the .properties files and jpeg's associated with a particular recording. Sage doesnt create or manage metadata so I assume all the data would be in the .properties files (yes/no?).

3. How does BMT determine that a file is TV or movie? Is there a "flag"?

[bikesquid]

Bump.

coming from vista media center with mediabrowser plugin, I'm looking for that same sort of integration, doesn't matter where something came from, etc. I've already got all that meta data sorted with metabrowswer, just want a clean display in sage to manage/play/delete.... Having a few hundred series and even more movies I'll be dead before I get them worked on a time, some heavy lifting automation is what I'd love to find.

[razrsharpe]

Originally Posted by pseudonym

OK I'm back again and need some more help...

I've got BMT webserver running in Jetty Starter (thanks Sean!), and I've got razrsharpe's .bat files, though I don't know what to do with them :-)

I wanted to do a fresh install of Sage and then use BMT to identify my recordings and my videos to Sage. So that's what I did LOL

I did something wrong... now I have all videos and all recordings, showing up in Sage both as recordings *and* as videos.

I don't care that the videos ended up as Sage recordings, but I'd like to get all of the recordings out of the videos section.

Is there a way to get out of this mess quickly and easily? If not I'll just do another fresh install and try again with BMT to sort it out.

Thanks and regards,
--pseudonym

Did you ever figure this out?.... I'm not sure how you got the videos to end up in both places.... seems not right... The only way BMT will put videos as Sage Recordings is if the "Import TV as Recordings" flag is checked in the bmt webui


my bat files are to simplify running bmt from the command line. Then there are different bat files for TV/movies, update fanart/metadata/both, specifying the provider, prompting the user for confirmation..... they are mostly unneeded anymore with the webui but i still use them...

[razrsharpe]

Originally Posted by dkopp

I am basically in the same boat. Clean installed many times. I have a few questions:

1. How can I import TV eposides i.e. all episodes of Seinfeld into SageTV recorded TV?

couple of options: 1) use bmt and make sure the "Import TV as recordings" is checked, 2) i believe you can import them with nielms webserver (completely manual process), 3) use TVE (link in signature) to merge imported and recorded tv into a single interface... this still requires bmt to make sure BMT sets the mediatype correctly.

2. During my multiple reinstalls I would clean out all the .properties files and jpeg's associated with a particular recording. Sage doesnt create or manage metadata so I assume all the data would be in the .properties files (yes/no?).

sage will read the information from a videos associated .properties file and then import that information into the sage wiz.bin (db). At this point the .properties file is not needed anymore. Sage will only read the properties file when the timestamp on the video is newer then the timestamp it has for that video in its wiz.bin

3. How does BMT determine that a file is TV or movie? Is there a "flag"?

for sage recorded content it uses the mediafileid in the filename "SeriesName-EpisodeName-Mediafileid-segmentnumber.ext"

for imported content the filename needs to conform to a standard naming convention... see sflamm's install guide linked to from the first post of the BMT thread

Originally Posted by bikesquid

Bump.

coming from vista media center with mediabrowser plugin, I'm looking for that same sort of integration, doesn't matter where something came from, etc. I've already got all that meta data sorted with metabrowswer, just want a clean display in sage to manage/play/delete.... Having a few hundred series and even more movies I'll be dead before I get them worked on a time, some heavy lifting automation is what I'd love to find.

check out BMT or mediascraper. Those are pretty much the two programs that people use to find metadata and present it to sage. BMT is probably your best bet as its used by the more people... it supports pulling metadata from imdb, thetvdb, themoviedb, dvdprofiler, mymovies... i think thats it... once setup and if your files are named in a predictible fashion it can be fairly automated....

[pseudonym]

Originally Posted by razrsharpe

Did you ever figure this out?.... I'm not sure how you got the videos to end up in both places.... seems not right... The only way BMT will put videos as Sage Recordings is if the "Import TV as Recordings" flag is checked in the bmt webui

No I didn't figure this out. I tried another fresh install of SageTV over the weekend. And after using BMT I had the same mixup as before, recordings are located in videos.

What I did:
I configured SageTV to know all my recording directories, and only one video directory (it's empty). I set Sage for manual refresh of video.

I next ran BMT webapp. It found all my recordings, I instructed it to find the metadata and I marked "import TV as recordings" flag.

When BMT finished most (but not all) of my recording directories now appear under Videos, in addition to being Sage recordings.

I don't think it's due to 'me' any longer... :-( unless I'm missing something here?

Thanks and regards,
--pseudonym

[gplasky]

Quit marking "import TV as recordings" . Your tv recordings are already tv recordings.

So-it is due to you.


Gerry

[pseudonym]

Originally Posted by gplasky

Quit marking "import TV as recordings" . Your tv recordings are already tv recordings.

So-it is due to you.


Gerry

Thanks Gerry I like that answer -- it is often easier and quicker to fix ME than to find and fix a program issue. I will give this a try this coming weekend.

The terminology here is very confusing to me, though. If this is my issue, then shouldn't that read "import recordings as videos"? (I guess I should ask Sean that question)

What led me to finding BMT in the first place, was a single recording that Sage lost track of, and it was showing up in the videos section. Even though that directory was not configured as a video directory, same as in this latest attempt to use BMT. (That part about Sage still confuses me, why would Sage index stuff in the recording directories also into the video directories? I guess I should ask Sage folk that question)

Anyway. That one Sage recording was not being listed in Sage recordings. I used BMT to get the metadata for it but that did not help, as Sage still didn't know about it. The only way I could find to have Sage know it was a recording again, was to use BMT with the checkbox "import TV as recordings". Only then did Sage remove it from video area and put it back into the recordings section.

It does seem like you're telling me the flag does the opposite of what it did for me when I used it to fix the one errant recording. If you (or Sean) can clarify just for my edification that would be great, I'd like to understand better what is happening.

In any event I'll give your suggestion a go this weekend. Thanks and regards,
--pseudonym

[gplasky]

Originally Posted by pseudonym

Thanks Gerry I like that answer -- it is often easier and quicker to fix ME than to find and fix a program issue. I will give this a try this coming weekend.

The terminology here is very confusing to me, though. If this is my issue, then shouldn't that read "import recordings as videos"? (I guess I should ask Sean that question)

What led me to finding BMT in the first place, was a single recording that Sage lost track of, and it was showing up in the videos section. Even though that directory was not configured as a video directory, same as in this latest attempt to use BMT. (That part about Sage still confuses me, why would Sage index stuff in the recording directories also into the video directories? I guess I should ask Sage folk that question)

Anyway. That one Sage recording was not being listed in Sage recordings. I used BMT to get the metadata for it but that did not help, as Sage still didn't know about it. The only way I could find to have Sage know it was a recording again, was to use BMT with the checkbox "import TV as recordings". Only then did Sage remove it from video area and put it back into the recordings section.

It does seem like you're telling me the flag does the opposite of what it did for me when I used it to fix the one errant recording. If you (or Sean) can clarify just for my edification that would be great, I'd like to understand better what is happening.

In any event I'll give your suggestion a go this weekend. Thanks and regards,
--pseudonym

That setting is actually used to take a TV recording you may have from another source (which would normally show up in the Videos area) and get it to import and to add metadata to the show so it will actually show up in the SageTV Recordings area. Looks like the side effect is if you apply this to an existing recording with metadata it ends up in Videos. Hope that helps.


Gerry

[pseudonym]

I've done another 'vanilla install' of SageTV 6.6.2. I configured ONE recording directory (it has a few SageTV recordings in it and nothing else, no metadata properties files, etc.), and ONE video directory (has a few downloaded videos in it, nothing else).

I brought up SageTV and it is showing no recordings (as expected) and is showing both of my directories (recordings, videos) and their contents all under the videos section, also as expected.

I've installed Jetty and BMT 4.0-beta6 (why not try it now) only for web (no customizations in SageTV yet), and marked one recording as a SageTV recording using BMT web. That recording now shows up as a recording from SageTV, and no longer appears with the others in the videos section.

I'm going to continue on, checking results step by step, and I'll report back my findings.

--pseudonym