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Smooth fast forward, rewind, and slow motion on HD300?
I'm thinking of buying an HD300. I've never been able to get acceptably smooth playback without pausing and jitter on my system that uses SageTV running on the computer. In another thread someone suggested the HD300 might do a better job.
Another thing I don't get with SageTV is smooth fast forward, rewind, and slow motion. All I get is skip forward or back by X second intervals. Can the HD300 support smooth fast forward, rewind, and slow motion?
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HD300 extender with (2020 New Build) SageTV 64 bit V9.2.2.903 (service mode), Running on Windows 10 (64 bit), Intel Core i7-10700K CPU, 16G RAM, GIGABYTE Z490 UD motherboard. NVidia GTX1650 Super; Viewsonic LCD on one output and Mitsubishi WD57734 HDTV via DVI/HDMI on other output. HDHomeRun HDHR5-4US tuner, Hauppauge "Siena" 1512 HD-PVR2 connected to Cisco Cable modem from Spectrum, tuned with USB-UIRT. |
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Hi HuntHunt - I see you have the HD-300. I've been using SageTV with the computer directly. It only supports skip forward and back by "n" second increments, and does not do true (smooth) FF and REW.
Does the HD-300 provide smooth FF and REW and slow-motion as well as the skip forward and back functions? * merged *
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HD300 extender with (2020 New Build) SageTV 64 bit V9.2.2.903 (service mode), Running on Windows 10 (64 bit), Intel Core i7-10700K CPU, 16G RAM, GIGABYTE Z490 UD motherboard. NVidia GTX1650 Super; Viewsonic LCD on one output and Mitsubishi WD57734 HDTV via DVI/HDMI on other output. HDHomeRun HDHR5-4US tuner, Hauppauge "Siena" 1512 HD-PVR2 connected to Cisco Cable modem from Spectrum, tuned with USB-UIRT. |
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Yes, the HD Extenders always have (all the way back to the HD100).
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Server: AMD Athlon II x4 635 2.9GHz, 8 Gb RAM, Win 10 x64, Java 8, Gigabit network Drives: Several TB of internal SATA and external USB drives, no NAS or RAID or such... Software: SageTV v9x64, stock STV with ADM. Tuners: 4 tuners via (2) HDHomeruns (100% OTA, DIY antennas in the attic). Clients: Several HD300s, HD200s, even an old HD100, all on wired LAN. Latest firmware for each. |
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True, but for me it's been a mix 'n' match of success. When I use the slow ff/slow rew, it'll work perfectly for say, a ripped .mkv file, but not work well for HD Homerun content (mpg). It's strange.
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All I have are HDHRs and they've always worked. Admittedly I don't use the smooth option hardly at all - I almost exclusively use the jump buttons - but in the few times I have used it or accidentally pressed it, it has always worked fine.
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Server: AMD Athlon II x4 635 2.9GHz, 8 Gb RAM, Win 10 x64, Java 8, Gigabit network Drives: Several TB of internal SATA and external USB drives, no NAS or RAID or such... Software: SageTV v9x64, stock STV with ADM. Tuners: 4 tuners via (2) HDHomeruns (100% OTA, DIY antennas in the attic). Clients: Several HD300s, HD200s, even an old HD100, all on wired LAN. Latest firmware for each. |
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The smooth fast forward/Remind really isn't all that "smooth", it is almost like it jumps forward by a certain amount of frames but even then it isn't really all that smooth. While this is only a guess, my thoughts on this are for several reasons:
1. Hard dives have a seek time. Usually this is in the 10's of milliseconds. 2. There is also network latencies. Both of these combined means that it would be hard for a device to truly do perfect smooth fast forward/rewind especially when it comes to high data streams like HD. I think it's pretty close (when I've used it). Heck I was never even impressed by parents original Tivo and that didn't have network latency and was only SD. Although my wife and I just use skip (when something hasn't been comskipped yet). Fast forward and rewind are really remnants of the old VCR days. On a DVD you skp chapters right?
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Sage Server: AMD Athlon II 630, Asrock 785G motherboard, 3GB of RAM, 500GB OS HD in RAID 1 and 2 - 750GB Recording Drives, HDHomerun, Avermedia HD Duet & 2-HDPVRs, and 9.0TB storage in RAID 5 via Dell Perc 5i for DVD storage Source: Clear QAM and OTA for locals, 2-DishNetwork VIP211's Clients: 2 Sage HD300's, 2 Sage HD200's, 2 Sage HD100's, 1 MediaMVP, and 1 Placeshifter |
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Smooth ff/rew have been horrible for me. I get instances where I'll be fast forwarding and all of a sudden it will jump several minutes forward and then I'll have to rewind because it went too far. I assume it's something to do with the video because it will happen in the same spot every time.
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Server: i5 8400, ASUS Prime H370M-Plus/CSM, 16GB RAM, 15TB drive array + 500GB cache, 2 HDHR's, SageTV 9, unRAID 6.6.3 Client 1: HD300 (latest FW), HDMI to an Insignia 65" 1080p LCD and optical SPDIF to a Sony Receiver Client 2: HD200 (latest FW), HDMI to an Insignia NS-LCD42HD-09 1080p LCD |
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I had been using skip forward instead of Fast Forward and that seemed to work as expected, so I may go back to that method..but I would have to re-program my universal remote to send skip instead of fast forward, so it would take a few minutes. I also wondered if there was any way to configure the server or extender to advance at 8X instead of 16X...it might be able to keep up better at 8X, but as it stands right now, one button press is 4X and a second button press is 16X...I looked for a configuration option, but didn't see it in the amount of time I had before my wife started getting weary of my tinkering. With that said, the 300, in general, has proven to be much more like an appliance than the Windows client, so I'm happier than I was (although I'd still like to know why I have to un-plug and re-plug the HDMI cable on the HTPC in order to make the SageTV audio work)... -Mark |
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