Plugin: Mobile Web Interface Version 2

[jreichen]

Originally Posted by Prestermatt

UPDATE: Got the login changed, but now I can't watch videos. It just gives me a blank box with no play option. I was able to watch a video the first time i installed. The "watch now" button does nothing, nor does the other button, which is just a random set of characters.

Do you have the Media Streaming Services plugin installed? It should have been installed as a dependency of the Mobile Web Interface but double check to make sure. And are you accessing the page using HTTP or HTTPS?

The "random set of characters" is the Mac Address for one of your extenders or placeshifters. Clicking that will start playback of the recording on that device. You can give it a descriptive name by editing the SAGE_HOME/webserver/extenders.properties file.

[Prestermatt]

Originally Posted by jreichen

Do you have the Media Streaming Services plugin installed? It should have been installed as a dependency of the Mobile Web Interface but double check to make sure. And are you accessing the page using HTTP or HTTPS?

The "random set of characters" is the Mac Address for one of your extenders or placeshifters. Clicking that will start playback of the recording on that device. You can give it a descriptive name by editing the SAGE_HOME/webserver/extenders.properties file.

Yeah, I figured out about the extender when the show suddenly started playing on it! So that part works fine. The "on this page" button does nothing on my ipad, though. Just a blank box.

I checked, and Media Streaming Services is installed, though it (and the Mobile Web Interface plugin) do not say "enabled", nor is there an option to disable them. I assume this is normal behavior. Using http.

[jreichen]

Originally Posted by Prestermatt

Yeah, I figured out about the extender when the show suddenly started playing on it! So that part works fine. The "on this page" button does nothing on my ipad, though. Just a blank box.

Make sure JavaScript is enabled: Settings -> Safari -> JavaScript -> On. If not then the button won't work. If it's on, turn on Safari's console to see if there are any JavaScript or HTML errors: Settings -> Safari -> Developer -> Debug Console -> On.

Originally Posted by Prestermatt

I checked, and Media Streaming Services is installed, though it (and the Mobile Web Interface plugin) do not say "enabled", nor is there an option to disable them. I assume this is normal behavior. Using http.

Yes that's normal.

[Prestermatt]

Originally Posted by jreichen

Make sure JavaScript is enabled: Settings -> Safari -> JavaScript -> On. If not then the button won't work. If it's on, turn on Safari's console to see if there are any JavaScript or HTML errors: Settings -> Safari -> Developer -> Debug Console -> On.

JavaScript has been on, and the debugger showed no error.

Also, my wife tried it on her 1st generation iPod Touch (3.0) and got a play symbol with a line through it. So no luck there either.

[gamehendge2000]

So after a little testing of the streaming...

I have a Core Duo 2,2ghz, trying to stream HD-PVR .ts files at the 'Great' encoding setting. I know this may be sub-optimal, just trying to get the config right at the moment.

- When logged in to my network via VPN, the mobile interface works fine (over 8080, jetty non-ssl) - but the streaming will not work. I get the video play button in the crossed-out circle icon on iPhone (4.01) and a blank black box on the iPad (4.2.1). I understand it will not worked directly over SSL, but would have thought that VPN might have worked...

- When opening the 8080 port and connecting publicly, everything seems to work fine on the 4.01 iPhone (3GS). BUT, the streaming does not work on the iPad (4.2.1). I get the play video button..when clicked, it greys out for a moment, but then returns to the white video icon, and does not launch the iPad video player.

Any thoughts?

[jreichen]

I'm not sure about either of those, I'm going to need some logs. Please go over to the Mobile Web Interface V2 iOS Streaming thread and follow the instructions about generating a log and posting it for support.

Thanks.

[dmegatool]

Think I just found out a bug. I browsed my listing on my iPhone to add a show as a favorite. The show was correctly listed. When I clicked on "Add favorite", the title of the show had the wrong encoding. So special character like "é" were displaying as "@Ä" (can't remember exatly, I would need to check that out). Edit : it's é

Anyway the favorite was created with these character so no upcoming show were detected as the listing was using the normal characters... I finally created the favorite on my server and everything is fine. Even if I use my iPhone to manage my favorites, the recently added show is displaying the correct characters.

Don't know where's the problem but I guess that working in English, you just never had to deal with such characters. Yep, I'm a french canandian

[redondo_se]

Can I install this manually in SageTV version 6.6, or does it depend on stuff in version 7? I don't really want to update to version 7 because I have no other reason to right now and I have lots of customizations in 6.6 that I don't want to port to 7.

[redondo_se]

Originally Posted by redondo_se

Can I install this manually in SageTV version 6.6, or does it depend on stuff in version 7? I don't really want to update to version 7 because I have no other reason to right now and I have lots of customizations in 6.6 that I don't want to port to 7.

Well, I gave it a shot. Seems that the Media Streaming Services plugin depends on the PluginAPI, which I guess is new in Sage 7

Oh well, maybe I will update to Sage 7 at some point.

[Jason]

While I had asked previously, I am still wondering if it would be possible to add in a link to stream via Orb?

The page does an OTF User Agent check to see if you are running some form of Apples OS and subsequently allows a link to the Live Streaming capabilities. Would it not be possible to add in a link under the 'Watch Now' portion to stream via Orb is it NOT an iOS device?

For example:

https://mycast.orb.com/orb/html/vide...TS19-9459062-0

... would open a secondary page on the Orb server to then stream the located file (In this case, an AMC series - The Walking Dead). I never did have too much luck with the direct links to the Orb file structure...

It just strikes me that until Apple's progressive streaming becomes more prevalent, and with all the non iOS devices asking for some sort of solution, this would be a 'relatively easy' (stopgap) solution.

-Jason

[Fonceur]

Originally Posted by Jason

While I had asked previously, I am still wondering if it would be possible to add in a link to stream via Orb?

Does a link like that actually works? For my android app, I've contacted most of the streaming companies and I either got ignored or pretty much got a "can't be done" reply...

[Jason]

Originally Posted by Fonceur

Does a link like that actually works? For my android app, I've contacted most of the streaming companies and I either got ignored or pretty much got a "can't be done" reply...

Depending on the codec support of your device... yes. I use the full web server to serve up (via Orb...) the flash version to my Android (2.2+) phone. Currently I have the Samsung Epic and I have to tell you, the screen on this puppy looks great!

Now, should your browser have the extension support for .asx/.pls etc, it should pass that playlist on to the appropriate video player that you have configured. vPlayer seems to do quite well, but the browsers are hit and miss with extension support.

-Jason

[redondo_se]

jreichen and Fonceur,

The android app Vplayer now supports http live streaming I just tested this stream:

http://devimages.apple.com/iphone/sa...rog_index.m3u8

On my epic 4g running a custom rom (froyo dk28), but the rom shouldn't matter. It played great! Any chance of the mobile web interface or tasagetv serving up the .m3u8 urls so we can open them in Vplayer?

As I mentioned a couple posts ago, I'm not running Sage7 yet, so I can't test it. But if this could work, it might be worth the hassle and cost of upgrading to Sage7.

Thanks

[Fonceur]

Originally Posted by redondo_se

The android app Vplayer now supports http live streaming I just tested this stream:

Interesting, the question is can I just "open a url" and VPlayer will be offered as a choice, or even better, is Jason's plugin creating that .m3u8 url and can I just point to it? Or maybe open the app with the query and it would get back the .m3u8 itself...

The VPlayer app does seem to be taking a beating on the comment/rating side...

EDIT: It seems that the FFmpeg library was used in the VPlayer app, which is why it supports Apple's HTTP live streaming.

[redondo_se]

Originally Posted by Fonceur

Interesting, the question is can I just "open a url" and VPlayer will be offered as a choice, or even better, is Jason's plugin creating that .m3u8 url and can I just point to it? Or maybe open the app with the query and it would get back the .m3u8 itself...

Well, it is "registered" to handle at least some URL types. Probably through "intents". I haven't written an android app yet, so I'm not entirely clear on all that. I cleard the default video player as the default handler for media files, and now when I open an mp4 url, I get the option of using the default player or vplayer. And, vplayer handles ALL video files I've come across, unlike the default video player, because of the hardware acceleration.

I haven't found any website serving up any HTTP live content in a form that will just launch vplayer, does anyone have some sites with HLS streams?

Originally Posted by Fonceur

The VPlayer app does seem to be taking a beating on the comment/rating side...

Yeah, people are upset because the Dev said it would always be free, and now it costs $3. Jeez, $3 ??? As far as I know, it's the only player available so far that handles http live streaming. Coreplayer 2.0 is supposed to be coming soon, but it's not out yet. And I'm sure it will cost a lot more.

Originally Posted by Fonceur

EDIT: It seems that the FFmpeg library was used in the VPlayer app, which is why it supports Apple's HTTP live streaming.

Well, technically, I think it supports more video codecs because of FFmpeg. HLS is really just a container/streaming protocol, right? There are other apps that use FFMpeg that don't support HLS.

[Fonceur]

I guess we need a volunteer with SageTV 7 and Android...

[jreichen]

Originally Posted by dmegatool

Think I just found out a bug. I browsed my listing on my iPhone to add a show as a favorite. The show was correctly listed. When I clicked on "Add favorite", the title of the show had the wrong encoding. So special character like "é" were displaying as "@Ä" (can't remember exatly, I would need to check that out). Edit : it's é

Anyway the favorite was created with these character so no upcoming show were detected as the listing was using the normal characters... I finally created the favorite on my server and everything is fine. Even if I use my iPhone to manage my favorites, the recently added show is displaying the correct characters.

Don't know where's the problem but I guess that working in English, you just never had to deal with such characters. Yep, I'm a french canandian

That's strange I'm using UTF-8 everywhere and IIRC nielm's web ui does too. I'll have to do some research. Those chars don't show up in my guide so I never noticed that.

[jreichen]

Originally Posted by Jason

While I had asked previously, I am still wondering if it would be possible to add in a link to stream via Orb?

The page does an OTF User Agent check to see if you are running some form of Apples OS and subsequently allows a link to the Live Streaming capabilities. Would it not be possible to add in a link under the 'Watch Now' portion to stream via Orb is it NOT an iOS device?

For example:

https://mycast.orb.com/orb/html/vide...TS19-9459062-0

... would open a secondary page on the Orb server to then stream the located file (In this case, an AMC series - The Walking Dead). I never did have too much luck with the direct links to the Orb file structure...

It just strikes me that until Apple's progressive streaming becomes more prevalent, and with all the non iOS devices asking for some sort of solution, this would be a 'relatively easy' (stopgap) solution.

-Jason

I was going to look into the code for nielm's web server again and see what it does. I did that awhile ago and seem to remember the browser needing a logged in session with Orb before the links would work.

Would you mind trying it in nielm's web server (aka SageTV Web Interface in plugin manager) and seeing if it's the same as what you're suggesting? I don't use Orb so if I add this I'll have to rely on users for verifying it.

[jreichen]

Originally Posted by redondo_se

jreichen and Fonceur,

The android app Vplayer now supports http live streaming I just tested this stream:

http://devimages.apple.com/iphone/sa...rog_index.m3u8

On my epic 4g running a custom rom (froyo dk28), but the rom shouldn't matter. It played great! Any chance of the mobile web interface or tasagetv serving up the .m3u8 urls so we can open them in Vplayer?

As I mentioned a couple posts ago, I'm not running Sage7 yet, so I can't test it. But if this could work, it might be worth the hassle and cost of upgrading to Sage7.

Thanks

It doesn't seem to like the HTTPLS coming from the mobile web interface. I disabled security as a test and that fixed one problem but it still wouldn't play the video. There isn't anything in the sage logs so I'd have a hard time tracking down the problem if the video player doesn't log anything besides a message on the screen saying something like "Can't play file." That's always helpful.

My TODO list for Sage development is growing faster than I can keep up with so I'm afraid I won't have time to do a lot of work on this. Don't get me wrong, I'd like to see it work because I have an Android phone as well as an iPhone.

[Jason]

Originally Posted by jreichen

I was going to look into the code for nielm's web server again and see what it does. I did that awhile ago and seem to remember the browser needing a logged in session with Orb before the links would work.

Would you mind trying it in nielm's web server (aka SageTV Web Interface in plugin manager) and seeing if it's the same as what you're suggesting? I don't use Orb so if I add this I'll have to rely on users for verifying it.

Yes... It works. The link I posted is directly taken from the full server. If you are not logged in, it will ask for your credentials. All you have to do is reselect the link at that point...