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Old 08-03-2011, 03:23 PM
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HD PVR version beta version 1.6.29207

Click on Beta tab
http://www.hauppauge.com/site/suppor...ort_hdpvr.html
Same Release Notes as 29199:
Brightness, contrast, Hue and Saturation can now be set in Arcsoft TME (Procamp controls)
Arcsoft TME now allows the manual setting of the video aspect ratio for standard definition (changes require restart of HDPVR)
Stability updates

I haven't had a chances to test them due (2) 1TB harddrive fail darn it I really hate last month Frist it was two tire blow on my truck then 2 harddrive error

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Old 08-03-2011, 05:14 PM
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Hey SHS,

Did they sort out the brightness issue some of us were having?

http://forums.sagetv.com/forums/show...26&postcount=6

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Old 08-03-2011, 05:32 PM
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That I don't know but I'm sure that why there are most likely new drivers to fix that problem when I let the soft dev know about it with 1.6.29199
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Old 08-03-2011, 07:42 PM
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This driver cause stuttering when I was watching ESPN in HD on my HD200 on a 720p tv.
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Old 08-07-2011, 05:23 PM
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I'm using the latest beta drivers and I must say I'm very impressed. Faster initialization. Practically no dropped frames so far. And I can turn off the damn giant blue sunlamp that hauppauge thought would be a good feature. As far as the picture setting problems these can all be fixed in sage.properties I don't remember what order the settings are in but 128, 64, 128, 64, 128 works perfectly for me. Oh and I did witness one instance of a channel stuttering on my hd100 but I quickly found that if I change the channel up and then back the problem stopped. I have seen no issues with recordings that was only during live playback

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Old 08-14-2011, 09:48 AM
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As far as the picture setting problems these can all be fixed in sage.properties I don't remember what order the settings are in but 128, 64, 128, 64, 128 works perfectly for me.
Can you provide more details on the entries (specific line?) to add/change in the properties file?

Update: After picking through the Looks like it would be the following items,

Code:
mmc/encoders/-1674637829/90/0/brightness=134  (s/b 128)
mmc/encoders/-1674637829/90/0/contrast=128  (s/b 64)
mmc/encoders/-1674637829/90/0/hue=128  (s/b 128)
mmc/encoders/-1674637829/90/0/saturation=128  (s/b 64)
mmc/encoders/-1674637829/90/0/sharpness=128  (s/b 128)
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Old 08-14-2011, 09:29 PM
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Seriously, instead of fixing contrast and hue, why can't they focus on fixing the super-common lock-up problems that are soooo prevalent among HD-PVR owners?
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Old 08-14-2011, 11:09 PM
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Seriously, instead of fixing contrast and hue, why can't they focus on fixing the super-common lock-up problems that are soooo prevalent among HD-PVR owners?
The new drivers do seem to be a bit quicker when changing channels, although I'm thinking the recordings may be a bit soft. Also no lockups all day even with testing lots of live tv and channel changes.

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Old 08-15-2011, 11:33 AM
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The new drivers do seem to be a bit quicker when changing channels, although I'm thinking the recordings may be a bit soft. Also no lockups all day even with testing lots of live tv and channel changes.

J
Did you have lock up issues with previous driver and DD5.1? Are these drivers an improvement over the previous in that respect?
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Old 08-15-2011, 07:31 PM
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Did you have lock up issues with previous driver and DD5.1? Are these drivers an improvement over the previous in that respect?
I've never had have problems with 5.1 audio on my DCX3400's or DCT3416's (previously DCT6216's).

I lock them at 1080i and turn off compression on the Motorola boxes and anything that looks like it will mess with the audio levels etc but don't actually know if that makes a difference.

A couple years ago when I first got my HDPVR's I did have some issues but I think that at the same time Shaw Cable was having all sorts of audio dropout issues that seem to be mostly solved now.

The new drivers seem a bit quicker on the recording starts.

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Old 08-16-2011, 08:05 AM
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I'll have to give them a try and see if there is any improvement on Optical audio.
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Old 08-16-2011, 08:30 AM
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Not sure why yet, but I had to move my HDPVR's back to the motherboard USB2.0 ports from my USB3.0 ports to sucessfully install the last two beta drivers. They all looked like they had updated but were stuck with the amber light on that normally just turns on/off with earlier driver revisions like 1.5.7. After moving to USB2.0 ports and installing they were fine and I just had to move back to the USB3.0 ports. Both 1.6.29199 and 1.6.29207 had this behaviour.

I could just be my system but thought I should mention it.

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Old 08-21-2011, 09:55 PM
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Can you provide more details on the entries (specific line?) to add/change in the properties file?

Update: After picking through the Looks like it would be the following items,

Code:
mmc/encoders/-1674637829/90/0/brightness=134  (s/b 128)
mmc/encoders/-1674637829/90/0/contrast=128  (s/b 64)
mmc/encoders/-1674637829/90/0/hue=128  (s/b 128)
mmc/encoders/-1674637829/90/0/saturation=128  (s/b 64)
mmc/encoders/-1674637829/90/0/sharpness=128  (s/b 128)
Thanks,

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Yes thats the ones I'm sorry I just wasn't near my computer that day to make a definitive reference.
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Old 09-06-2011, 06:28 PM
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I tried this on two HD-PVR's but I'm going to have to roll back. I get lots of drop outs on DirecTV these days (there's a huge thread about it on DBSTalk, for those interested). Usually it's just an annoyance, the audio goes "brrrrrrrrat", the A/V receiver turns off the digital audio stream briefly and then it comes back. Well, what's happening now is when the dropout comes, chances are the timeline goes to hell in the recording at that point. This has occurred 3 times since Saturday when I installed the driver: in an Indy Car race, Curb Your Enthusiasm and DesignStar. It's affecting SageTV directly.

This is the kind of thing that worries me as time marches on without anyone steering the ship. Since the Google announcement I had no thought of leaving Sage and would ride it out. But now the doubt creeps in.
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Old 09-07-2011, 07:03 AM
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I had resigned myself to living with periodic drop-outs from my HD-PVR for the last year or so. Would typically get 1 or 2 per hour-long program. Not great, but I use OTA tuners as a higher preference so this only affected a few shows / channels.

Upgraded the drivers to this beta set, and while it's still early (2 days) I haven't had a single drop-out yet. Impressed so far!

Other notes: had to adjust the color settings as described above, still using stereo (not SPDIF) but I'll probably try digital again in a few days/weeks.

Funny, my SageTV install is more stable now than it has ever been. I sure hope we're able to keep EPG data one way or another...
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Old 09-07-2011, 09:42 AM
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I'm redacting my previous statement from earlier. These new drivers bring fast initialization, better response from the hdpvr. But I'm getting some seriously corrupted timelines, stuff that handbrake can't fix. I feel like I'm running my old pvr-250 again. I'm dropping back to my old stable drivers. Well after I check something out first ( it may be because showanalyzer is set to run live). After I am sure I'll probably still rollback. I had dropouts before, but they never corrupted the timeline. I've also noticed that if I try to watch ondemand I have to do a quick channel change when the menu comes up or I get a frozen image. It seems that the sacrifice for the speed increase isnt stability its reliability, and that just won't do.
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Well SageTV is dead now and there probably won't be another update but is there a way around the hue problem with the newest firmware for the HD-PRV?

If I change the settings to defaults in TME2 everything looks pretty good and it even gives you the values but it seems that if you open sageTV the colors are all messed up and if you manually input all the settings in sage.properties, then all the settings stick but the hue setting seems to go to -30 when you check in TME2

How can we make SageTV keep the hue setting at 0?
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Well SageTV is dead now and there probably won't be another update but is there a way around the hue problem with the newest firmware for the HD-PRV?

If I change the settings to defaults in TME2 everything looks pretty good and it even gives you the values but it seems that if you open sageTV the colors are all messed up and if you manually input all the settings in sage.properties, then all the settings stick but the hue setting seems to go to -30 when you check in TME2

How can we make SageTV keep the hue setting at 0?
Shut down SageTV. Find these lines in the sage.properties filke:
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mmc/encoders/-1674637829/90/0/brightness=134 (s/b 128)
mmc/encoders/-1674637829/90/0/contrast=128 (s/b 64)
mmc/encoders/-1674637829/90/0/hue=128 (s/b 128)
mmc/encoders/-1674637829/90/0/saturation=128 (s/b 64)
mmc/encoders/-1674637829/90/0/sharpness=128 (s/b 128)
Change the numbers to the s/b numbers.

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Old 09-09-2011, 02:42 PM
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Shut down SageTV. Find these lines in the sage.properties filke:


Change the numbers to the s/b numbers.

Gerry
I did that and as soon as you launch SageTV you will notice that the colors are not right and if you exit SageTV and launch TME2 and check, you will notice that the HUE has gone from 0 to -30

In other words the Hue setting does not seem to stay in Sage.Properties, well it stays there but every time you launch SageTV the colors are not right and when you check in TME you will notice why, the HUE value = -30

Because of these, Right now I have to manually adjust the hue in the Nvidia control Panel for videos but it still doesn't look as it should
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I tried to update the drivers, but the install doesn't see the device. Ran a hwclear and it deleted both my 1800 and the hd-pvr.

Re-started, downloaded and ran the 1800 driver and said it can't find it, yet Win7 picked it up, but the HD-PVR still won't install.

Now what?

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