DVR (non-DIY discussion)

[QueOnda]

This is crazy. Tivo coming out with their own DVR: http://www.amazon.com/dp/B013X8YI5I/?tag=aftvn-20

Silicondust is coming out with there DVR software to go with their hardware.
https://www.silicondust.com/products...d-homerun-dvr/

Tablo also does it and been out awhile: https://www.tablotv.com/

I'm surprised google didn't come out with a DVR (not counting google fiber). Of course they open sourced sagetv which is cool.

The non-DYI is not my thing. I'm currently doing KODI and sagetv for my recordings.

Any others I'm missing? What's your thoughts?

[Fuzzy]

Originally Posted by QueOnda

This is crazy. Tivo coming out with their own DVR: http://www.amazon.com/dp/B013X8YI5I/?tag=aftvn-20

Silicondust is coming out with there DVR software to go with their hardware.
https://www.silicondust.com/products...d-homerun-dvr/

Tablo also does it and been out awhile: https://www.tablotv.com/

I'm surprised google didn't come out with a DVR (not counting google fiber). Of course they open sourced sagetv which is cool.

The non-DYI is not my thing. I'm currently doing KODI and sagetv for my recordings.

Any others I'm missing? What's your thoughts?

My opinion is that none of them do anything different than provider supplied DVR's, so might as well just go with that.

[dgeezer]

Well, I spent the $60.00 to follow along on the Silicondust DVR Kickstarter. So far it's been pretty disapointing.

Their progress, or lack thereof, shows just how difficult software development can be. They are down to only getting out one release every 30 days. Right now they have a very basic recording engine working. However, what any SageTV user would consider to be basic recording control is missing. There is no epg grid so you must browse a somewhat random list of shows, make a selection and then it will record every episode. There is some control over SD vs HD but no direct control. As far as I know, there is no way to record a single specific show such as one Thursday night football game.

Also, there are no DVR functions with live tv. You can't pause rewind or record the currently playing show. The current Kodi client uses the HDHomeRun view app for live TV. It actually works well. It is very snappy at changing channels etc. However, I wonder if it will work as well once all live TV is routed through the DVR.

[mikejaner]

Originally Posted by QueOnda

This is crazy. Tivo coming out with their own DVR: http://www.amazon.com/dp/B013X8YI5I/?tag=aftvn-20..

Ummm, you know they have been steadily releasing DVR's since 1999, right?

[SHS]

TiVo BOLT = Bent iPhone
Well at one point in time SageTV had plans for Stand along Hardware ATSC box sad that that never got finsh.

[PLUCKYHD]

to say none of these offer anything over cable dvr is off base a bit

I must admit tivo has come along way and their new box is nice not an amount of money I'll spend but for someone that only has encrypted cable it's a nice option and what allot of people have wanted out of sage or wmc
1.automatic commercial skipping (nice and surprising)
2. Netflix on same box including 4k
3. plex available and works well for movies
4.tivo stream is a nice small extender that still has Netflix and plex access.

and with the upcoming fire tv app even more. again WAY more than your standard cable box and all in all not a bad package

[Tiki]

Originally Posted by mikejaner

Ummm, you know they have been steadily releasing DVR's since 1999, right?

I hear Kleenex may be selling tissue paper and Xerox might start making copy machines soon too (there are even some rumors about Scotch selling transparent tape, and Google launching an internet search engine).

[PLUCKYHD]

Originally Posted by Tiki

I hear Kleenex may be selling tissue paper and Xerox might start making copy machines soon too (there are even some rumors about Scotch selling transparent tape, and Google launching an internet search engine).

[wayner]

Originally Posted by PLUCKYHD

to say none of these offer anything over cable dvr is off base a bit

...
1.automatic commercial skipping (nice and surprising)
...

My understanding after reading the review is that this is done by someone manually tagging the commercial start and endpoints. So it doesn't work in real-time and only works on certain programs, mainly primetime programs on the most popular channels.

[PLUCKYHD]

Originally Posted by wayner

My understanding after reading the review is that this is done by someone manually tagging the commercial start and endpoints. So it doesn't work in real-time and only works on certain programs, mainly primetime programs on the most popular channels.

Its better than most. Human error can be there but commercial skip programs aren't always 100% either. I don't really understand the user thing they are doing. Is it a paid person or just random people....But ya not real time but who watches real time anymore isn't that what dvrs are for

[pjpjpjpj]

Originally Posted by Tiki

I hear Kleenex may be selling tissue paper and Xerox might start making copy machines soon too (there are even some rumors about Scotch selling transparent tape, and Google launching an internet search engine).

Next thing you know, you'll tell me that Frisbee is going to start selling flying discs!

[QueOnda]

Originally Posted by pjpjpjpj

Next thing you know, you'll tell me that Frisbee is going to start selling flying discs!

NOWAY!!! A disc that fly's? Frisbee is cool. I wonder if we can do some cool and and tricks: https://www.google.com/search?q=Free...mes+and+tricks

What I meant regarding Tivo, that they were going to be able to stream and have a firetv app. But I haven't check out tivo for about a decade. But them coming out with capable of 4K output is nice. Their box looks like an apple product.

Did you hear what Amazon said today? Banning competing products that don't have an prime video support! Crazy! http://www.aftvnews.com/amazon-to-st...video-support/

[tmiranda]

Originally Posted by PLUCKYHD

I don't really understand the user thing they are doing. Is it a paid person or just random people....

They have a group of paid people who watch the shows and manually mark the commercials.

[mikejaner]

Originally Posted by tmiranda

They have a group of paid people who watch the shows and manually mark the commercials.

Like in the past, I don't see why they are doing this when litigation shut down ReplayTV and the "Hoppa".

[PLUCKYHD]

Originally Posted by mikejaner

Like in the past, I don't see why they are doing this when litigation shut down ReplayTV and the "Hoppa".

I believe the hopper is still in tact and has survived litigation.

[mikejaner]

Originally Posted by PLUCKYHD

I believe the hopper is still in tact and has survived litigation.

Ahh, I thought they had to change it to chapter skip, or whatever, non "Commercial Skip"

[PLUCKYHD]

Originally Posted by mikejaner

Ahh, I thought they had to change it to chapter skip, or whatever, non "Commercial Skip"

ya I believe part of the agreement was the 72 hour or whatever it is wait to watch. which still wouldn't bother people like me I'm so far behind lol