HDHomerun DVR ... DRM

[nyplayer]

You can now VIEW DRM protected channels on XBOX-one and Windows 10 Pc's and PC Sticks ... at the moment you cannot Pause LiveTV on DRM or record DRM channels .... you can do both with Non -DRM channels. Recording and pausing of DRM to follow.

Windows 10 PCs (Desktops, Laptops, Tablets, HDMI-sticks, etc)
Starting with the 20170206 app release protected channels can be viewed on Windows 10 if the following requirements are met:
* Windows 10 Anniversary Edition or newer (Version 1607 Build 14393 or newer).
* System uses UEFI boot or has a TPM. Most modern systems use UEFI boot and meet this requirement.
* TV or monitor with HDCP support connected, and/or internal screen. Generally all TVs and monitors with HDMI inputs support HDCP.
* Windows DVD Player app installed (paid app from the App Store). This will not be required once the next major Windows 10 update is released.

[NetworkGuy]

The PLEX DVR using the HDHomeRun, so I wonder if it will handle DRM.

[nyplayer]

Originally Posted by NetworkGuy

The PLEX DVR using the HDHomeRun, so I wonder if it will handle DRM.

No ... You need a client that can handle DRM.

[NetworkGuy]

Originally Posted by nyplayer

No ... You need a client that can handle DRM.

Too bad. I have a PLEX Pass and the DVR competent is included.

[nyplayer]

Originally Posted by NetworkGuy

Too bad. I have a PLEX Pass and the DVR competent is included.

I tried the PLEX DVR they have a long way to go.


This is my HDHR Test System Very Simple and does it all....soon to be may main entertainment.

WDMYCLOUD 4TB drive ... HDHRDVR Installed.
Samsung SmartTV (Netflix Amazon etc...)
ASUS PC Stick..... for browsing if needed also HDHomerun View Client.
Nvidia Shield Gaming ... retro games ... Plex Server... also my backup HDHR DVR.

[Fuzzy]

Originally Posted by nyplayer

I tried the PLEX DVR they have a long way to go.


This is my HDHR Test System Very Simple and does it all....soon to be may main entertainment.

WDMYCLOUD 4TB drive ... HDHRDVR Installed.
Samsung SmartTV (Netflix Amazon etc...)
ASUS PC Stick..... for browsing if needed also HDHomerun View Client.
Nvidia Shield Gaming ... retro games ... Plex Server... also my backup HDHR DVR.

So you just don't record, pause or skip on copy protected channels then? I honestly can't imagine that being acceptable here.

[nyplayer]

Originally Posted by Fuzzy

So you just don't record, pause or skip on copy protected channels then? I honestly can't imagine that being acceptable here.

That is being worked on as we speak.... Pause and record none drm is working. They are currently working on record pause of DRM ... should be soon. They wanted to make sure that devices can play protected content first.... I am quite happy that I can VIEW DRM on $60 PC Sticks (Black Friday) attached to my TVs. Eliminates rental boxes.

[EnterNoEscape]

Originally Posted by Fuzzy

So you just don't record, pause or skip on copy protected channels then? I honestly can't imagine that being acceptable here.

I'm seeing this a little differently than many people. My thoughts are that I can connect that live stream to an encoder and replace the rental cost of an STB. That would be $5 for one CableCARD vs $36 a month for 3 STB's. For what I want to do, being able to pause or skip doesn't really matter.

[NetworkGuy]

I have been lucky in that there are very few items that I want to record that are DRM, so it has not been an issue.

[NetworkGuy]

Originally Posted by nyplayer

This is my HDHR Test System Very Simple and does it all....soon to be may main entertainment.

WDMYCLOUD 4TB drive ... HDHRDVR Installed.
Samsung SmartTV (Netflix Amazon etc...)
ASUS PC Stick..... for browsing if needed also HDHomerun View Client.
Nvidia Shield Gaming ... retro games ... Plex Server... also my backup HDHR DVR.

What are you using to playback the recordings? Plex?

[nyplayer]

Originally Posted by NetworkGuy

What are you using to playback the recordings? Plex?

Mostly the HDHomerun View Client on what ever is convenient at the time Tablet, Android TV or windows PC... I do have the libraries in Plex In case I want to watch while away.

FYI The Windows 10 app can Play the recordings...play pause non DRM LiveTV...schedule recordings and also play DRM LiveTV. Images below.

[nyplayer]

Originally Posted by EnterNoEscape

I'm seeing this a little differently than many people. My thoughts are that I can connect that live stream to an encoder and replace the rental cost of an STB. That would be $5 for one CableCARD vs $36 a month for 3 STB's. For what I want to do, being able to pause or skip doesn't really matter.

I just packed up 2 STB's.

PS I also like that just with a check mark you can move the DVR to any android box with enough storage.... and all my favorites and guide data are still there.

[cncb]

Originally Posted by nyplayer

FYI The Windows 10 app can Play the recordings...play pause non DRM LiveTV...schedule recordings and also play DRM LiveTV. Images below.

I would still want it to behave like now (I haven't purchased the DVR app) by just streaming the Live TV stream with no recording. Is this an option or are you forced to record Live TV when you have the DVR app? What about watching recordings in progress?

[nyplayer]

Originally Posted by cncb

I would still want it to behave like now (I haven't purchased the DVR app) by just streaming the Live TV stream with no recording. Is this an option or are you forced to record Live TV when you have the DVR app? What about watching recordings in progress?

Live None-DRM viewing is recorded so you can time shift .... at this moment watching DRM does not record. You can watch recordings in progress... it also keeps padding on back to back recordings same channel using 1 tuner.... which I have wanted in SageTV for years.

[cncb]

Originally Posted by nyplayer

Live None-DRM viewing is recorded so you can time shift

But can you turn this off so that it just streams and does not record?

[nyplayer]

Originally Posted by cncb

But can you turn this off so that it just streams and does not record?

No .... why use a DVR if you just want to stream and not record you still have to use a tuner in that case use DLNA.

[cncb]

Originally Posted by nyplayer

No .... why use a DVR if you just want to stream and not record you still have to use a tuner in that case use DLNA.

Well, I never pause Live TV so recording Live TV is totally unnecessary for me. Besides, this is how the app currently works without the DVR "addon" so I was hoping it was an option.

[stanger89]

Originally Posted by EnterNoEscape

I'm seeing this a little differently than many people. My thoughts are that I can connect that live stream to an encoder and replace the rental cost of an STB.

Don't count on that, cablecard licensing requires that that live stream be encrypted, which is probably the reason why SD doesn't have recording done themselves yet.

[nyplayer]

Originally Posted by stanger89

Don't count on that, cablecard licensing requires that that live stream be encrypted, which is probably the reason why SD doesn't have recording done themselves yet.

Why would it not work since I can record WMC via HDMI... you can just plug a pc HDMI ouput to a HDCP capable hardware encoder ... just like I was doing with WMC. I am sure channel changing via HTTP would work. I have to see if you can record this way since I have a zid900 that has HDMI in record.

[EnterNoEscape]

Originally Posted by nyplayer

Why would it not work since I can record WMC via HDMI... you can just plug a pc HDMI ouput to a HDCP capable hardware encoder ... just like I was doing with WMC. I am sure channel changing via HTTP would work. I have to see if you can record this way since I have a zid900 that has HDMI in record.

Basically if I can change the channel with more certainty than WMC and their player is more stable, I would be very happy. I really would like to be able to get confirmation about what channel actually tuned in. It's so strange that WMC doesn't have anything in their API to confirm what channel you're tuned into.