SageTV Community  

Go Back   SageTV Community > General Discussion > General Discussion
Forum Rules FAQs Community Downloads Today's Posts Search

Notices

General Discussion General discussion about SageTV and related companies, products, and technologies.

Reply
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread Display Modes
  #41  
Old 05-08-2023, 09:08 PM
jusjoken jusjoken is offline
SageTVaholic
 
Join Date: Dec 2005
Location: Strathmore, AB
Posts: 2,727
Quote:
Originally Posted by Narflex View Post
I mentioned in my last post that I won't be setting up a Discourse server (internal issues I can't explain). The only other option I'm allowed to pursue would be a Google Group...for any real forum, somebody else would need to set it up since I'm still bound by Google's rules.
So once you have the existing site backed up thru httrack.. Where will that be hosted?

k
__________________
If you wish to see what I am up to and support my efforts visit my Patreon page
Reply With Quote
  #42  
Old 05-09-2023, 07:18 AM
wayner wayner is offline
SageTVaholic
 
Join Date: Jan 2008
Location: Toronto, ON
Posts: 7,491
Quote:
Originally Posted by Narflex View Post
Now regarding Discourse...so that's not going to happen at this time (internal details I can't get into). The only other thing I can do w/ Google's blessing is to create a Google Group for this...which isn't really ideal. The other alternative is somebody else creating a non-official discussion site..and then we link to that as the 'non-official SageTV dicussion forums'. Any takers on that?
Can we all chip in to keep this forum site going? Or is that not allowed by Google.

I am not a huge fan of reddit for this sort of stuff, but there is an existing sub that is rarely used. And we don't have to pay for that. But there are other downsides. If no one comes up with a better option then we may be stuck with that.
__________________
New Server - Sage9 on unRAID 2xHD-PVR, HDHR for OTA
Old Server - Sage7 on Win7Pro-i660CPU with 4.6TB, HD-PVR, HDHR OTA, HVR-1850 OTA
Clients - 2xHD-300, 8xHD-200 Extenders, Client+2xPlaceshifter and a WHS which acts as a backup Sage server
Reply With Quote
  #43  
Old 05-09-2023, 08:44 AM
tvmaster2's Avatar
tvmaster2 tvmaster2 is offline
SageTVaholic
 
Join Date: Jun 2005
Location: tarana
Posts: 4,240
Quote:
Originally Posted by wayner View Post
Can we all chip in to keep this forum site going? Or is that not allowed by Google.

I am not a huge fan of reddit for this sort of stuff, but there is an existing sub that is rarely used. And we don't have to pay for that. But there are other downsides. If no one comes up with a better option then we may be stuck with that.
I don’t mind chipping in, but personally, I’d prefer a forum where I’m signing-in ONLY to the forum, not to Google, or Facebook, or…you know?
__________________
Sage 9 server = Gigabyte AMD quad-core - 4 gigs - integrated ATI HD4200 chipset - SSD boot, Hitachi Deskstar show drives. HD-PVR - Colossus - Win7 32 bit. HD200/300s networked. HDHomerun tuner. "If you've given up on Weird Al, you've given up on life" - Homer Simpson

Last edited by tvmaster2; 05-09-2023 at 11:30 AM.
Reply With Quote
  #44  
Old 05-09-2023, 09:37 AM
nyplayer nyplayer is offline
SageTVaholic
 
Join Date: Sep 2005
Posts: 4,997
Quote:
Originally Posted by Narflex View Post
I compiled a special version of HTTRack.
Can you post a ZIP file of the forum you saved... So, it can be downloaded for local use?
__________________
Channels DVR UBUNTU Server 2 Primes 3 Connects TVE SageTV Docker with input from Channels DVR XMLTV and M3U VIA Opendct.
Reply With Quote
  #45  
Old 05-09-2023, 11:31 AM
tvmaster2's Avatar
tvmaster2 tvmaster2 is offline
SageTVaholic
 
Join Date: Jun 2005
Location: tarana
Posts: 4,240
Quote:
Originally Posted by nyplayer View Post
Can you post a ZIP file of the forum you saved... So, it can be downloaded for local use?
or your compile of HTTrack so we can grab it ourselves.
__________________
Sage 9 server = Gigabyte AMD quad-core - 4 gigs - integrated ATI HD4200 chipset - SSD boot, Hitachi Deskstar show drives. HD-PVR - Colossus - Win7 32 bit. HD200/300s networked. HDHomerun tuner. "If you've given up on Weird Al, you've given up on life" - Homer Simpson
Reply With Quote
  #46  
Old 05-09-2023, 12:10 PM
Narflex's Avatar
Narflex Narflex is offline
Sage
 
Join Date: Feb 2003
Location: Redondo Beach, CA
Posts: 6,349
Quote:
Originally Posted by tvmaster2 View Post
Ah, okay - that's what a tech-friend of mine thought you may have done.
Any idea what a non-coding commoner like moi could do - would I replace the htslib.c which installed with the program with the one you linked to ini post #34, or do I need to re-compile a version myself as you did?
You'd actually need to recompile it...but I'll post an issue w/ the fix on their Github page so maybe they'll include it.
__________________
Jeffrey Kardatzke
Google
Founder of SageTV
Reply With Quote
  #47  
Old 05-09-2023, 02:12 PM
tvmaster2's Avatar
tvmaster2 tvmaster2 is offline
SageTVaholic
 
Join Date: Jun 2005
Location: tarana
Posts: 4,240
Quote:
Originally Posted by Narflex View Post
You'd actually need to recompile it...but I'll post an issue w/ the fix on their Github page so maybe they'll include it.
ok, thanks so far. At least you isolated the problem. Although, I tried another web-download app, Cyotek WebCopy, and got exactly the same response. That’s why I thought the issue was with Sage forums and not HTTrack
__________________
Sage 9 server = Gigabyte AMD quad-core - 4 gigs - integrated ATI HD4200 chipset - SSD boot, Hitachi Deskstar show drives. HD-PVR - Colossus - Win7 32 bit. HD200/300s networked. HDHomerun tuner. "If you've given up on Weird Al, you've given up on life" - Homer Simpson

Last edited by tvmaster2; 05-10-2023 at 09:18 AM.
Reply With Quote
  #48  
Old 05-09-2023, 04:42 PM
Narflex's Avatar
Narflex Narflex is offline
Sage
 
Join Date: Feb 2003
Location: Redondo Beach, CA
Posts: 6,349
Quote:
Originally Posted by jusjoken View Post
So once you have the existing site backed up thru httrack.. Where will that be hosted?

k
It should still end up on forums.sagetv.com; but the URLs will be different because they can't use actual query parameters (like every single page on the forums except the main page). The site will actually be hosted by Google's infrastructure.
__________________
Jeffrey Kardatzke
Google
Founder of SageTV
Reply With Quote
  #49  
Old 05-09-2023, 04:44 PM
Narflex's Avatar
Narflex Narflex is offline
Sage
 
Join Date: Feb 2003
Location: Redondo Beach, CA
Posts: 6,349
Quote:
Originally Posted by wayner View Post
Can we all chip in to keep this forum site going? Or is that not allowed by Google.

I am not a huge fan of reddit for this sort of stuff, but there is an existing sub that is rarely used. And we don't have to pay for that. But there are other downsides. If no one comes up with a better option then we may be stuck with that.
No, you can't just keep the existing site going because I can't just hand over the forums database to somebody else (lots of personal email addresses, PMs, etc.). This has nothing to do with money..it's all about security policies.
__________________
Jeffrey Kardatzke
Google
Founder of SageTV
Reply With Quote
  #50  
Old 05-09-2023, 04:49 PM
Narflex's Avatar
Narflex Narflex is offline
Sage
 
Join Date: Feb 2003
Location: Redondo Beach, CA
Posts: 6,349
Quote:
Originally Posted by nyplayer View Post
Can you post a ZIP file of the forum you saved... So, it can be downloaded for local use?
That's all going to depend upon how big it ends up being....ask me again later after I said the download worked completely and I know how big it is.
__________________
Jeffrey Kardatzke
Google
Founder of SageTV
Reply With Quote
  #51  
Old 05-09-2023, 08:55 PM
tvmaster2's Avatar
tvmaster2 tvmaster2 is offline
SageTVaholic
 
Join Date: Jun 2005
Location: tarana
Posts: 4,240
Quote:
Originally Posted by Narflex View Post
That's all going to depend upon how big it ends up being....ask me again later after I said the download worked completely and I know how big it is.
Thanks for all the updates. And yes, Id appreciate privacy and security with regards to our currently stored info. If the scenario were you could send all the forum info over but we had to create new IDs, logins, etc., that would be preferred over what you said
__________________
Sage 9 server = Gigabyte AMD quad-core - 4 gigs - integrated ATI HD4200 chipset - SSD boot, Hitachi Deskstar show drives. HD-PVR - Colossus - Win7 32 bit. HD200/300s networked. HDHomerun tuner. "If you've given up on Weird Al, you've given up on life" - Homer Simpson
Reply With Quote
  #52  
Old 05-10-2023, 12:28 AM
VCRUser VCRUser is offline
Sage Aficionado
 
Join Date: Jan 2008
Posts: 444
Quote:
Originally Posted by Narflex View Post
That's all going to depend upon how big it ends up being....ask me again later after I said the download worked completely and I know how big it is.
I'd also like to be able to download for local use.
__________________
Server: Windows 8.1 4gb RAM; 4TB SATA + others. Homebrew quad core AMD. Inputs: Haup. 980, 850 & 950Q on ATSC; Haup 1600 on ATSC & Comcast 2 DTAs with USBUIRT for NTSC. Haup 1800 on ATSC. HDHR Dual (ATSC). Sage 9.22 64 bit.
Reply With Quote
  #53  
Old 05-10-2023, 02:49 PM
trk2 trk2 is offline
Sage Aficionado
 
Join Date: Jan 2006
Location: Maine
Posts: 499
Quote:
Originally Posted by Narflex View Post
No, you can't just keep the existing site going because I can't just hand over the forums database to somebody else (lots of personal email addresses, PMs, etc.). This has nothing to do with money..it's all about security policies.
Bummer. And I guess just upgrading to the latest version of vBulletin doesn't meet the security policies?
Reply With Quote
  #54  
Old 05-11-2023, 10:12 AM
Narflex's Avatar
Narflex Narflex is offline
Sage
 
Join Date: Feb 2003
Location: Redondo Beach, CA
Posts: 6,349
Quote:
Originally Posted by trk2 View Post
Bummer. And I guess just upgrading to the latest version of vBulletin doesn't meet the security policies?
No, otherwise I'd just do that.
__________________
Jeffrey Kardatzke
Google
Founder of SageTV
Reply With Quote
  #55  
Old 05-11-2023, 05:35 PM
KryptoNyte's Avatar
KryptoNyte KryptoNyte is offline
SageTVaholic
 
Join Date: Dec 2006
Posts: 2,754
This forum link has been in my bookmarks for so long that I don't even remember a time when it wasn't right up at the top of my browser's bookmarks list ... it's been a major virtual hangout for me for like 1/3 of my life. It's not just for Sage, it's the extraordinary amount of technical knowledge that's openly shared here between users, and there is a long list of great Sage users and plugin developers that have contributed far beyond what I will ever be able to understand.

Jeff, whatever you deem appropriate at this point is great with me.

(I know that beggars can't be choosers, but I don't navigate reddit so well now that I'm old)
Reply With Quote
  #56  
Old 05-11-2023, 08:23 PM
Tiki's Avatar
Tiki Tiki is offline
Sage Icon
 
Join Date: Feb 2005
Location: Southwest Florida, USA
Posts: 2,009
Quote:
Originally Posted by KryptoNyte View Post
This forum link has been in my bookmarks for so long that I don't even remember a time when it wasn't right up at the top of my browser's bookmarks list ... it's been a major virtual hangout for me for like 1/3 of my life. It's not just for Sage, it's the extraordinary amount of technical knowledge that's openly shared here between users, and there is a long list of great Sage users and plugin developers that have contributed far beyond what I will ever be able to understand.

Jeff, whatever you deem appropriate at this point is great with me.

(I know that beggars can't be choosers, but I don't navigate reddit so well now that I'm old)
If I read Jeffs previous post correctly, Google is not going to allow him to setup an alternate forum at all - not even the Discourse site that was previously suggested. Therefore, unless someone else steps up and creates a new forum, its sounding like we could be coming to the end of the road.
__________________
Server: Ryzen 2400G with integrated graphics, ASRock X470 Taichi Motherboard, HDMI output to Vizio 1080p LCD, Win10-64Bit (Professional), 16GB RAM
Capture Devices (7 tuners): Colossus (x1), HDHR Prime (x2)
,USBUIRT (multi-zone)
Source:
Comcast/Xfinity X1 Cable
Primary Client: Server Other Clients: (1) HD200, (1) HD300
Retired Equipment: MediaMVP, PVR150 (x2), PVR150MCE,
HDHR, HVR-2250, HD-PVR
Reply With Quote
  #57  
Old 05-12-2023, 10:29 AM
tvmaster2's Avatar
tvmaster2 tvmaster2 is offline
SageTVaholic
 
Join Date: Jun 2005
Location: tarana
Posts: 4,240
Quote:
Originally Posted by Tiki View Post
If I read Jeffs previous post correctly, Google is not going to allow him to setup an alternate forum at all - not even the Discourse site that was previously suggested. Therefore, unless someone else steps up and creates a new forum, its sounding like we could be coming to the end of the road.
Let's hope that's not the case - which is why I've been trying to download the site using various web-download software apps like HTTrack and Webcopy. Unfortunately, the SageTV Forums site returns '403 Forbidden' errors with every software package I've tried so far.
I believe Jeff was able to get around this by compiling a 'special' version of the HTTrack software, but this is beyond my coding abilities unfortunately.
If anyone else can investigate what he did and replicate it, that would help most of us.
As far as someone hosting the site - we only have 2 1/2 weeks until June 1st, so yes, lets hope someone with the knowhow can do this
__________________
Sage 9 server = Gigabyte AMD quad-core - 4 gigs - integrated ATI HD4200 chipset - SSD boot, Hitachi Deskstar show drives. HD-PVR - Colossus - Win7 32 bit. HD200/300s networked. HDHomerun tuner. "If you've given up on Weird Al, you've given up on life" - Homer Simpson
Reply With Quote
  #58  
Old 05-12-2023, 11:26 AM
wayner wayner is offline
SageTVaholic
 
Join Date: Jan 2008
Location: Toronto, ON
Posts: 7,491
A couple of people have said that they don't like reddit, but that is a pre-existing solution. Surely it is better than nothing, if nothing else pops up.
__________________
New Server - Sage9 on unRAID 2xHD-PVR, HDHR for OTA
Old Server - Sage7 on Win7Pro-i660CPU with 4.6TB, HD-PVR, HDHR OTA, HVR-1850 OTA
Clients - 2xHD-300, 8xHD-200 Extenders, Client+2xPlaceshifter and a WHS which acts as a backup Sage server
Reply With Quote
  #59  
Old 05-12-2023, 01:13 PM
Opus4's Avatar
Opus4 Opus4 is offline
Administrator
 
Join Date: Sep 2003
Location: NJ
Posts: 19,624
Unless someone has other options, what do people think of Discord, as opposed to google groups? I don't remember if anyone had another hosting option posted previously.

Discussions there are less threaded, but there are thread and pseudo forum channel options there.
__________________
SageTV Open Source v9 is available.
- Read the SageTV FAQ. Older PDF User's Guides mostly still apply: SageTV V7.0 & SageTV Studio v7.1.
- Hauppauge remote help: 1) Basics/Extending it 2) Replace it 3) Use it w/o needing focus
- HD Extenders: A) FAQs B) URC MX-700 remote setup
Note: This is a users' forum; see the Rules. For official tech support fill out a Support Request.
Reply With Quote
  #60  
Old 05-12-2023, 01:21 PM
Narflex's Avatar
Narflex Narflex is offline
Sage
 
Join Date: Feb 2003
Location: Redondo Beach, CA
Posts: 6,349
Quote:
Originally Posted by Tiki View Post
If I read Jeffs previous post correctly, Google is not going to allow him to setup an alternate forum at all - not even the Discourse site that was previously suggested. Therefore, unless someone else steps up and creates a new forum, its sounding like we could be coming to the end of the road.
You are correct for new discussions...somebody else needs to come up with a new option or it'll end up being Google Groups.

I will definitely keep a static copy of the existing forums alive for archival purposes...I am allowed to do that. So please don't try to download your own copies of the forums right now...it's just going to slow down my work trying to create the official archive of them.
__________________
Jeffrey Kardatzke
Google
Founder of SageTV
Reply With Quote
Reply


Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 members and 1 guests)
 

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump

Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
malore menus: using the Options command for xml/commercial detect options Opus4 SageTV v7 Customizations 21 06-09-2017 11:32 PM
DVR (non-DIY discussion) QueOnda The SageTV Community 16 10-02-2015 08:12 AM
DST discussion mikejaner SageTV Software 53 03-18-2010 07:08 PM
SageTV Forums Forums salsbst General Discussion 5 05-06-2005 11:01 AM


All times are GMT -6. The time now is 11:36 AM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.11
Copyright ©2000 - 2023, vBulletin Solutions Inc.
Copyright 2003-2005 SageTV, LLC. All rights reserved.