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Old 05-12-2023, 02:04 PM
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Agee with all on this thread- I wouldnt have any SAGE capabilities if not for this site -the help has been priceless. thanks goodness the archival is hopefully safe.
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Old 05-12-2023, 04:30 PM
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If I were to put up $250, and another knowledgeable Sage user capable of setting up a forum in a webspace hopped in (and helped maintain it), what would that get us?

When I look for forum hosting blindly (and I mean blindly for someone like me), it would appear $250ish would get us 3 years of pretty decent hosting on an SSD based server. Is there a cheaper, better way, where a forum could be hosted on a home computer and linked somehow?

What's it gonna take?
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Old 05-12-2023, 05:28 PM
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You are correct for new discussions...somebody else needs to come up with a new option or it'll end up being Google Groups.

I will definitely keep a static copy of the existing forums alive for archival purposes...I am allowed to do that. So please don't try to download your own copies of the forums right now...it's just going to slow down my work trying to create the official archive of them.
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Will Google offer to free host a server if the community gets volunteers to set it up and maintain it?

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Old 05-12-2023, 10:08 PM
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Unless someone has other options, what do people think of Discord, as opposed to google groups? I don't remember if anyone had another hosting option posted previously.

Discussions there are less threaded, but there are thread and pseudo forum channel options there.
Personally, I prefer Google Groups over Discord. Discord just seems painful to me. What about GroupsIO?
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Jeff,

Will Google offer to free host a server if the community gets volunteers to set it up and maintain it?

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Old 05-13-2023, 12:47 PM
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I don't know what features are supported or even if you can set this up for free, but Github has "Discussions".

https://docs.github.com/en/discussions

If not on the google/sagetv Github with the project source code, then on the opensagetv site where the binaries and plug-ins are hosted.
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Old 05-13-2023, 01:21 PM
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I don't know what features are supported or even if you can set this up for free, but Github has "Discussions".

https://docs.github.com/en/discussions

If not on the google/sagetv Github with the project source code, then on the opensagetv site where the binaries and plug-ins are hosted.
This is a great suggestion. It seems it is free and I would suggest if we go this route we would use the opensagetv github so we as a community have more control.

Here is a blog post with examples...

https://github.blog/2022-01-13-how-f...b-discussions/

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Old 05-13-2023, 04:22 PM
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This is a great suggestion. It seems it is free and I would suggest if we go this route we would use the opensagetv github so we as a community have more control.

Here is a blog post with examples...

https://github.blog/2022-01-13-how-f...b-discussions/

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I actually have owner privileges for OpenSageTV but would need/want help on how to organize it. Stuckless is the only other owner currently.
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Old 05-13-2023, 06:39 PM
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No.
In a really simple version, what are you looking for the community to do for us to continue having access to previous and new info/exchanges going forward, as I'm not quite clear about this.
On June 1st, is it the community who needs to have come up with a solution, plan, budget, direction?

I use this forum daily (below) and find it easy to navigate, communicate, exchange ideas etc. Do you recognize the formatting - platform?

https://xwebforums.com/forum/index.php

I'm trying to get some info from their sys admin about how it runs, cost etc...
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Old 05-13-2023, 08:04 PM
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I actually have owner privileges for OpenSageTV but would need/want help on how to organize it. Stuckless is the only other owner currently.
If this is the decided forum approach I would be willing to assist as an owner/moderator. It would be great if Opus4 (Andy) would also function in this role as he has for as long as I have been involved.

But first we need more feedback and have to determine how as a community we make a decision like this as we don't want to head in multiple directions for sure.

Should we create a poll for the options currently suggested in this thread so far..is it majority rules? Or do we ask for volunteers to setup the new forums and based on skill set we make the decision based on what the volunteers are willing and able to support?

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Old 05-13-2023, 08:06 PM
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In a really simple version, what are you looking for the community to do for us to continue having access to previous and new info/exchanges going forward, as I'm not quite clear about this.
On June first, is it the community who needs to have come up with a solution, plan, budget, direction?

I use this forum daily (below) and find it easy to navigate, communicate, exchange ideas etc. Do you recognize the formatting - platform?

https://xwebforums.com/forum/index.php

I'm trying to get some info from their sys admin about how it runs, cost etc...
The forum you linked to is based on the Xenforo platform.

https://xenforo.com/

I believe its a paid solution.

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Old 05-13-2023, 08:15 PM
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If this is the decided forum approach I would be willing to assist as an owner/moderator. It would be great if Opus4 (Andy) would also function in this role as he has for as long as I have been involved.

But first we need more feedback and have to determine how as a community we make a decision like this as we don't want to head in multiple directions for sure.
I would trust whatever you decide.
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Old 05-14-2023, 02:01 AM
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Will the archived forum be searchable similarly to the current search capabilities?
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Old 05-14-2023, 02:25 AM
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The forum you linked to is based on the Xenforo platform.

https://xenforo.com/

I believe its a paid solution.

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Okay, Iíll hopefully know the details in a day or two, and will report back.
Did you like the format?
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Will the archived forum be searchable similarly to the current search capabilities?
Thatís what Iíd like to know as well
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Old 05-14-2023, 04:32 AM
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I would trust whatever you decide.
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Old 05-14-2023, 05:12 AM
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Will the archived forum be searchable similarly to the current search capabilities?
Jeff has already stated no... At least not from within the site. However, he said you could use Google to search the site (which is something I often do now as the site search has limits).

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Old 05-14-2023, 07:53 AM
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You are correct for new discussions...somebody else needs to come up with a new option or it'll end up being Google Groups.

I will definitely keep a static copy of the existing forums alive for archival purposes...I am allowed to do that. So please don't try to download your own copies of the forums right now...it's just going to slow down my work trying to create the official archive of them.
ok, but if and when we can, please let us know. June 1st is coming awfully soon.
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If this is the decided forum approach I would be willing to assist as an owner/moderator. It would be great if Opus4 (Andy) would also function in this role as he has for as long as I have been involved.

But first we need more feedback and have to determine how as a community we make a decision like this as we don't want to head in multiple directions for sure.

Should we create a poll for the options currently suggested in this thread so far..is it majority rules? Or do we ask for volunteers to setup the new forums and based on skill set we make the decision based on what the volunteers are willing and able to support?

Thoughts

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Yes for me as well, but a poll would at least solidify the concept from future doubt. I wish we had six months instead of two weeks though
Volunteers abilities are the best way I imagine? Without that weíre pretty stuckÖ
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Unless someone has other options, what do people think of Discord, as opposed to google groups? I don't remember if anyone had another hosting option posted previously.

Discussions there are less threaded, but there are thread and pseudo forum channel options there.
I donít know anything about ĎDiscordí, is the link Iím posting the right place?
If not, can you post a link to a good example of a Discord forumÖ

https://www.ionos.com/digitalguide/s...itro%20service.
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