Imported Video in the recording screen

[dvd_maniac]

I am running the latest Sage Beta (7.0.11.232) and 40 of my Movies that are not in my recordings directory are showing up as Recordings. All 40 of them are in fact in one of my Imported Videos directory but are not showing up there.
They first showed up Today and I have been using this version of Sage for weeks now without this problem.
They showed up as "Archived" and "Manual Recording" which I have removed, but they are still showing up in the wrong place.
What else can I try?

[Fuzzy]

can you look at the ShowID for those items? It should be listed on the Detailed Info page, will likely be two letters, followed by a series of numbers. May help to find the culprit.

[dvd_maniac]

Yes, They all have a SHOWID and they all start with MV

[Opus4]

Are you using a metadata plugin, or did you just move recordings? Recordings in v7 have metadata in them, so simply moving & renaming them won't cause them to be removed from the recordings list.

- Andy

[dvd_maniac]

Yes I am using a metadata plugin:
Metadata Tools for SgaeTV - Web Plugin.
I also have IMDB Search installed.

Although I uninstalled the Metadata Tools plugin, restarted Sage did a new scan and the problem still persists.

[Opus4]

The topic has been moved. Please use the customizations forum for all customization questions/issues.

- Andy

[dvd_maniac]

I do not think this is a customization issue as the problem is still there even after uninstalling all plugins not installed with Version 7 Beta.

[GKusnick]

I think what Andy's saying is that you'll have to consult with the plugin author to find out how to purge the imported metadata from your database. Simply uninstalling the plugin and rescanning won't necessarily do that.

[Fuzzy]

If the ShowID is set to MV, then if is considered a 'Movie', meaning a TV Recorded movie. This is why it is showing up in the recordings screen. MV, SH, and SP are the ShowID prefixes for recordings, while MF is for imports. Something changed the ShowID to MVxxxxx instead of the original MF they had when imported. Sage, by itself, doesn't have the capability to change the ShowID (Called ExternalID in the API), which is why this points to a plugin making the change.

As for uninstalling the plugins, if the ID has already been changed, it doesn't matter if you remove the plugin, as the 'damage' has already been done.

[stuckless]

Originally Posted by dvd_maniac

Yes, They all have a SHOWID and they all start with MV

Could you show a complete show id, or the first 4 characters. If the first 4 characters are MVmt, then it is for sure a mediafile that has been imported as tv by bmt. If not, then BMT has never imported this mediafile. BMT changes the 3rd and 4th characters of each mediafile it imports to "mt" as a way to identifying that it imported the file as TV.

Were these originally SageTV recording? If so, then depending on the version of BMT, it could very import these as recordings, if the the import TV file as Recording was enabled during a full/automatic scan.

What version of bmt were you running when this happened? And, did you ever at one point, manually import these files into your recordings?

[dvd_maniac]

Well I am able to fix the problem by running the videos in question through VideoReDo and saving them to another location and then Delete the "Recording" through Sage UI, move the video back to it's original location and finally rescan the import directories.

[dvd_maniac]

Nevermind, they came back

@ Stuckless
Movie: First Sunday
Showid: MV2024230000

I do not know what version I had installed. I un-installed it before checking.
Yes they were all recorded by Sage version 6 and earlier.

Any recommendations on how I purge these?

[Fuzzy]

rename the files. It sounds like sage is recognizing it, and seeing the reference in the wiz.bin, so it is reattaching it. Rename the file and it should keep sage from recognizing it as a recording.

[stuckless]

Originally Posted by dvd_maniac

Nevermind, they came back

@ Stuckless
Movie: First Sunday
Showid: MV2024230000

I do not know what version I had installed. I un-installed it before checking.
Yes they were all recorded by Sage version 6 and earlier.

Any recommendations on how I purge these?

Based on the showid, BMT has never imported this file as a TV file, if it did, it would be something like, MVmt######.

I know Andy threw this into the BMT section because the word metadata was mentioned but I'm not sure you are dealing with a BMT issue.

It seems to me that, perhaps, these are movie recordings, and maybe Sage6 added some metadata to the container, and now when you import them into your library, Sage knows they were originally recordings, and as such, it decides to bring them in under the Recordings section.

If i understand the complete picture...
1. you recorded the movies using Sage6
2. you want to NOT have these movies show up as Recordings, so you moved them to an import folder, outside your main recordings area
3. when you import them, SageTV (or something) decides they are still Recordings, and they show up in the Recordings section.

Is that correct?

[Opus4]

I originally asked if they were recordings & was only told about metadata plugins in response.

I asked whether they were recordings because:

SageTV v6 didn't add metadata to the recorded files, but would still recognize recordings in import dirs if the filename still had the ID number.

SageTV 7 adds tags to the file itself now & should have updated the old recordings the first time v7 runs. These files should be recognized as recordings even if renamed.

- Andy

[Fuzzy]

sage 6 didn't store any info in the files, but it DID store the airingID in the filename, so if you haven't renamed it, and are still using the same wiz.bin, it will be able to look that up, and recognize it.

[stuckless]

Originally Posted by Opus4

I originally asked if they were recordings & was only told about metadata plugins in response.

I asked whether they were recordings because:

SageTV v6 didn't add metadata to the recorded files, but would still recognize recordings in import dirs if the filename still had the ID number.

SageTV 7 adds tags to the file itself now & should have updated the old recordings the first time v7 runs. These files should be recognized as recordings even if renamed.

- Andy

Sorry Andy... i was just giving your a hard time about moving the request to my area I think the root of the issue may actually be what Fuzzy is talking about... ie, the files are airings, with the Airing ID in the filename.

[dvd_maniac]

Since the videos were recorded I have wiped my Wiz.bin file. I have also removed the airing ID from the filename. I have also run everyone of them through VRD to get rid of the very beginning and end credits. The VRD was done while still in V6. I reran them through VRD yesterday and when I saved the new video file I added the movie year to the end.
Example Dirty Work.mp4 became Dirty Work (1998).mp4
Shouldn't VRD strip out any metadata and shouldn't Sage recognize the new video file with a new name as something different?

[Fuzzy]

Is the file accompanied by any metadata files? (.properties, .my, etc.?)

I'm not sure vrd would remove v7's embedded metadata. I think vrd will retain any custom blocks. Something ,like tsremux might have better luck.

[dvd_maniac]

I deleted the properties file and since I saved them with a different name the metadata files should not matter.