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Old 10-24-2011, 11:15 AM
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Question Screenshots of the upcoming GoogleTV 2.0 look like it uses sageTV technology?

I'm sorry if someone already posted about this. I just thought I'd see if anyone can tell from the screenshots in the link below if the upcoming Google TV (in weeks from now) will use core sageTV technology.

http://www.zatznotfunny.com/2011-10/...-0-sneak-peak/
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Old 10-24-2011, 11:55 AM
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I just thought I'd see if anyone can tell from the screenshots in the link below if the upcoming Google TV (in weeks from now) will use core sageTV technology.
It looks like what was shown at the Google I/O 2011 in June, before SageTV was purchased... Mostly makes uses of the "action bar" and "dashboard" design patterns...
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Old 10-28-2011, 10:07 AM
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Could this be Sage 8?

http://reviews.cnet.com/8301-33199_7...ncol;cnetRiver

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There's a new section called TV and Movies, which presents a browsing-friendly interface that combines content from your cable/satellite service.
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Old 10-28-2011, 10:15 AM
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Since it doesn't appear to have any DVR function, I'd say no. Also, way too soon to see anything from the SageTV acquisition.

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Old 10-28-2011, 10:55 AM
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Another short article on it. I wouldn't expect to see any SageTV DVR like features released before next summer, if ever. It's still not clear to me how they would release such a media-storing feature. Would a TV really function as a server? I think it would have to be a separate box. Unless we're talking cloud based storage, which being a tech-dinosaur, doesn't interest me that much.

Though if I'm in the market for a new TV soon, this might get me to pick up one of the Sony's as a potential GoogleTV playback unit.
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Old 10-28-2011, 11:56 AM
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Unless we're talking cloud based storage, which being a tech-dinosaur, doesn't interest me that much.
The bandwidth limits of most people's upstream would be a barrier to directly storing your recordings "in the cloud", but I wonder if some hybrid PVR/On-demand scenario would skirt some of the content licensing restrictions that plague the likes of HULU and Netflix...

To over-simplify it; you "record" your show locally, but all that really happens is a fingerprint of the recorded show is generated, giving you access to stream Google's "cloud recorded", or possibly even "crowd recorded" version.
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Old 10-28-2011, 12:46 PM
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Here's a good article that explains Google TV and what to expect in Google TV 2.0. More hardware partners are coming too.

First Look: Google TV 2.0

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Old 10-28-2011, 12:49 PM
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To over-simplify it; you "record" your show locally, but all that really happens is a fingerprint of the recorded show is generated, giving you access to stream Google's "cloud recorded", or possibly even "crowd recorded" version.
Yep, that's what I meant by cloud based.
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Old 10-28-2011, 01:09 PM
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The bandwidth limits of most people's upstream would be a barrier to directly storing your recordings "in the cloud", but I wonder if some hybrid PVR/On-demand scenario would skirt some of the content licensing restrictions that plague the likes of HULU and Netflix...

To over-simplify it; you "record" your show locally, but all that really happens is a fingerprint of the recorded show is generated, giving you access to stream Google's "cloud recorded", or possibly even "crowd recorded" version.
That won't work. Time Warner tried that withe their network DVR. They wanted to store 1 copy in the cloud, and all their customers could point to that copy. They were sued by the content providers. The judge basically said they could do a network DVR, but they had to create a copy for each customer who records it. My company coded this up for them, Time Warner knew they were going to get sued for it the whole time, but they wanted to find some way to do a network DVR anyways.
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Old 10-28-2011, 01:21 PM
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From what I have seen of the GoogleTV API, and read, you can't even play a file from the local network, which has been done on purpose to "prevent piracy"... So that puts some serious constraints on a SageTV integration...
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Old 10-28-2011, 01:25 PM
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From what I have seen of the GoogleTV API, and read, you can't even play a file from the local network, which has been done on purpose to "prevent piracy"... So that puts some serious constraints on a SageTV integration...
What you would probably have to see is some type of AllVid gateway appliance with tuners and storage that would be accessed by some type of Android application client. the AllVid gateway appliance acts as the "SageTV server" and your Google TV appliance becomes the android app "SageTV client".

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Old 10-28-2011, 01:35 PM
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GoogleTV++

http://content.usatoday.com/communit...gle-tv-redux/1

Announced today, the new version of Google TV attempts to smooth some rough edges.

"The home UI (user interface) of the main product was too complicated; the navigation was not simple enough," says Mario Queiroz, VP of product management at Google. "We really wanted it to be very simple to help you get to Netflix, YouTube or Pandora."

Google is trying to bring all manner of Web videos, apps and network programming into one place to house "millions" of TV channels and make navigation simple.

The Google TV update is based on the company's Honeycomb version of Android, also used in tablet computers. It attempts to simplify some of the previous version's screen clutter of icons populating the TV, placing a neat row of icons at bottom. It now appears more like Apple TV in terms of simple, minimalist, less is more, layout.

Google has also worked to improve its content search for programming across live TV, Netflix, YouTube, HBO GO and other destinations.

YouTube has been baked into Google TV better, the company says. It's intended to make it easier to find HD programming on YouTube within Google TV.

With Honeycomb, Google has opened up the Google TV platform for app developers to port existing mobile apps to the TV or develop new ones.

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Old 10-28-2011, 02:05 PM
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I'm very curious to know if Netflix content really is integrated wtih search results; the last time that was tried (via Boxee software over 18 months ago), Netflix requested that search and other Netflix content / integrated aspects be removed...

And if so, if it was done with Netflix's knowledge or not
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Old 10-28-2011, 03:07 PM
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From what I have seen of the GoogleTV API, and read, you can't even play a file from the local network
Here someone is apparently doing it from Chrome:
http://www.googletvforum.org/forum/g...ly-chrome.html

If you can with an App an on Android phone, I would have to think you'd be able to do the same on GoogleTV.
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Here someone is apparently doing it from Chrome:
Yes I've seen that, but they're basically itching a ride on some other web server/media server...
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Old 10-29-2011, 12:26 PM
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GoogleTV getting major update

Seem that GoogleTV is getting a major update soon

http://www.cnn.com/2011/10/28/tech/w...ble/index.html

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Seem that GoogleTV is getting a major update soon

http://www.cnn.com/2011/10/28/tech/w...ble/index.html

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do we think this is something Jeff et al have been working on, or is this likely an update which was in the works LONG before SageTV's demise?
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do we think this is something Jeff et al have been working on, or is this likely an update which was in the works LONG before SageTV's demise?
It was announced/demoed at the Google I/O 2011 back in June, weeks before the acquisition became official...
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It was announced/demoed at the Google I/O 2011 back in June, weeks before the acquisition became official...
ah, so what will the Sage/Google software be called: Google TV III?
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They probably won't use anything with it. Just screwing us instead.
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